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Posted: 14 Mar 2003, 07:31
by wouter
Yep, Merdict Taylor and Jorge Luis Chavez. Referee Mitchell Steele really blew that one.
Posted: 14 Mar 2003, 16:06
by wsbuf
Flex, you should assume he meant Julio, as Wouter assumed you meant Meldrick.

Posted: 14 Mar 2003, 23:31
by Tomato-Can
Exactly Bollocks...The referee has several jobs in the ring. Watching the clock is not one of them.
Posted: 15 Mar 2003, 01:04
by robin
Exactly Tomato, picking up mouth guards and ears would be one of them.
If I recall correctly, had Taylor taken a step to the right, he would have joined the spectators.
Posted: 15 Mar 2003, 02:30
by Jaclem
At last!!!!other people who are right on the Chavez/Taylor fight!!!it's been so frustrating having people come up with so much nonsense about this fight...one idiot even said Taylor had won every round up till the finish. part of the blame for the "Taylor was robbed" goes to the tv announcers. I don't at this point even recall who they were, but they were watching a different fight. Taylor started out strong, but Chavez was giving him a teribble beating as the fight progressed, and his career never recovered from it. As I have said so often, and as Tomato and bollocks alluded to, a referee is NOT A TIME KEEPER. When I refed amateur fights we were told to look at the fighters and not the clock, and the pros are told to look into the downed fighters eyes when he got up...and this is what Steele did.
As for the scoring in this fight, I had chavez coming on and had it even up to the last round, so even if Taylor had got up he would have lost the decision.
Posted: 16 Mar 2003, 15:37
by zurdo
...was very unlucky..
He only had to hang on for a few more seconds...
Jaclem is right....It was a correct call by Richard Steele
Talor had sprinted out to the lead in the first few rounds with blazing spedd but the iplacible Chavez kept pounding away...At the start of the twelfth Taylor had taken a pretty thorough pounding for about four straight rounds...
When he got up from the knockdown he was in very bad shape. He was unsteady on his feet ,he was badly busted up and he was completely exausted..he was at the point where one more shot could have seriously injured him...
It was terrible luck for Meldrick but it was the correct call
Posted: 17 Mar 2003, 11:29
by zurdo
Chavez might have had time to rush across the ring and land another couple of crushing blows..a world class boxer can get off a few hard punches in that time.. Chavez would have been able to hit him at least once more... You can be sure that a meciless Chavez would have tried to jump right back on him ,,Taylor might have been seriously injured .It was one of the most exciting fights i have ever seen...and it was a real bad break for Meldrick who fought a great fight but came up just ever so short...but it was not a robbery
Posted: 17 Mar 2003, 20:11
by Tomato-Can
terap wrote:Bullocks,
I see now you are resorting to writing fiction.
Your Steal had a long, observable history of working for his employer, Don King or whomever.
Steal was consistently a stooge referee---as his actions REPEATEDLY demonstrated.
Poppycock...
How can you admonish Steele for having a working relationship with someone when you dont know who that someone was.
Posted: 17 Mar 2003, 20:14
by Tomato-Can
....and Balderdash. The only pont to be considered here is that it is not the referees job to watch the clock. Steele did his primary job. He protected the fighters.
Posted: 18 Mar 2003, 03:23
by Jaclem
terap...we know who Don King is , but who are the "whoever else's who ran things"? If the fix was in, why was Taylor so far ahead on the score cards of the judges, when a lot of others (including me) were giving points to Chavez for great body punches and subtle defense? As for Taylor not being a draw, he was the co-olympian hot shot along with Pernell Whitaker and was expected to go all the way and certainly would have been a draw if he had beaten the becoming-a-legend Chavez. If he had no connections, how did Taylor get the fight in the first place. Did the "connections" somehow know that Taylor would be knocked down during the lasr seconds and therefore the 'corrupt" Richard Steele would be able to declare chavez the winner? There are a lot of good arguments for Steele letting the fight go on, but your arguments just don't withstand scrutiny.
As far as "innocents" go, I saw the underside of boxing when i was fifteen..and that is not within the past few earthly circles around the sun.
Posted: 18 Mar 2003, 07:52
by Tomato-Can
In his last post, Jaclem asked you four legitimate questions. Your reply answers none of them.
Posted: 18 Mar 2003, 07:55
by Tomato-Can
terap wrote:. .
Cat got your tongue?