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Noisy punters are an issue for Joe
Posted: 16 Apr 2008, 07:43
by Chambers2
Noisy punters are an issue for Joe
Apr 16 2008 by Delme Parfitt, South Wales Echo
JOE Calzaghe has already spoken about the encouragement derived from the travelling hordes of British fight fans arriving in Las Vegas this week.
But yesterday we witnessed the first signs of that support disfiguring into boorish football-style chanting, the like of which eventually undermined rather than ignited Ricky Hatton’s ill-fated expedition to face Floyd Mayweather here last December.
The Mancunian fumbled around for a variety of excuses in the wake of the lesson he was taught by Mayweather before Christmas, refusing to acknowledge the glaring gulf in class.
Yet his reference to the disgust on the face of referee Joe Cortez’s face that evening as the Star Spangled Banner was drowned out by boos and whistles is not without significance.
Cortez is the man in the middle on Saturday night, and while there is an obvious need not to cloud his thinking through mass disrespect of his country’s anthem, there are other reasons why restraint is sorely needed at the Thomas and Mack Arena.
Hatton’s army sought to take over Vegas through volume of numbers and a typically tasteless back catalogue of terrace favourites.
It was all in the name of building up their man and unsettling his opponent.
But the whole sorry episode backfired completely, serving only to stiffen Mayweather’s resolve to show them who was in charge.
He did, emphatically. And with Calzaghe already up against factors such as a acclimatising to Sin City, a maiden fight at a heavier weight and the usual precursor that any victory must be comprehensive in the eyes of foreign judges, he could well do without the counter-productive tendencies of the mob.
It has not yet reached that stage, but with the migration from the UK set to intensify as the days go by, it could.
At the Planet Hollywood Hotel and Casino yesterday, both he and Hopkins staged open workouts.
Calzaghe was first up, walking in amid a wall of adoration, and if anything the confidence and competence of his routine underlined just how little he needs hecklers trying to fight his corner as well.
The Newbridge man pumped his fists relentlessly, ducked, bobbed, weaved and glided, never once losing his balance in the makeshift ring.
This may have been for show, but in camp Calzaghe there is never any justification for not doing things properly.
“We love you Joe,” came the cries. “South Wales!” “Risca boys, Joe!” Calzaghe was even asked to do the Ayatollah by one bloke set some distance back.
He didn’t bother tapping his head, but he waved intermittently, and flashed that smile too.
It was cheery, reassuring stuff, but then it took a different turn.
To appreciate the pantomime villain nature of Hopkins’ subsequent entrance you had to be there.
As if his route to the canvas being accompanied by a chorus of jeering wasn’t jolting enough, it got worse.
“Washed up old man, washed up old man!” That was the first ditty – to the tune of “Play up Pompey, Pompey play up” – struck up by one group.
Next up it was: “There’s only one Joe Calzaghe, one Joe Calzaaaaaaghe”, followed by “Wales, Wales!” a la the Millennium Stadium as the national rugby team chases the Grand Slam.
By this time an inflatable daffodil had appeared and the volume had ratcheted up a few notches.
It was even drowning out Hopkins at one stage as he tried to hold an impromptu chat with journalists at ringside.
Nothing wrong with voicing your support for sure, but when a few over-zealous Brits began shouting “You’re going down old man” at the American from outside the public cordon but within 10 yards of him, you sensed things going rather too far.
They were obviously unaware just how much Hopkins revels in his Executioner nickname, how comfortable he is with being deeply unpopular.
It must have been lost on the boo-boys that this 43-year-old is one of the few US fighters despised even by large sections of boxing followers in his own country.
Which is why someone has to put out the message that Calzaghe’s procession towards the biggest night of his boxing life must not be allowed to head down the same road as Hatton’s, the road to raucous oblivion.
And with that in mind it will be more than a little interesting to see just what transpires at Friday’s weigh-in.
That's a good read, the British Boo Boys have been giving Nard some stick already

It's a good job they ain't playing the national anthems this time around else Joe will be getting warned for punching
COME ONE JOE CALZAGHE!!!!!
Posted: 16 Apr 2008, 08:03
by Old bones Ian
Just hope we don't get any trouble in the crowd at the fight, it could have dire reprecussions on other British boxers getting big fights in the US.
Posted: 16 Apr 2008, 08:30
by Autobarn
If Joe does shit, it wll have dire repercussions as to the future of flashy, chin-up UK boxers going abroad!
Posted: 16 Apr 2008, 09:04
by Old bones Ian
Autobarn wrote:If Joe does shit, it wll have dire repercussions as to the future of flashy, chin-up UK boxers going abroad!
Joe won't do 'shit'. He's to good

Posted: 16 Apr 2008, 10:35
by GlobalBox
The Anthems are back in - Tom Jones singing the welsh one, lets hope we get no repitition of the Hatton episode, whatever anyone says it pissed Cortez off big style. Would have been the same result but might have been a bit more interesting.
Still he can't have it both ways, if Hatton can't get away with holding inside an punching, how on earth can he let Hopkins do it, could be interesting
Posted: 16 Apr 2008, 10:39
by Chambers2
GLOBALBOX wrote:The Anthems are back in - Tom Jones singing the welsh one
Well I suppose 'Its not unusual'
Global, cheers for the pointing me in the way off Ladbrokes for my JC UD bets. I'll be retiring from betting if Calzaghe doesn't win a UD here
Posted: 16 Apr 2008, 11:07
by chief
Autobarn wrote:If Joe does shit, it wll have dire repercussions as to the future of flashy, chin-up UK boxers going abroad!
it will have dire repercussions for the reputation of british boxing in general... im not a huge calzaghe fan
but he
has to win...
Posted: 16 Apr 2008, 12:58
by observer1
Don't worry, i seriously doubt Joe Will lose this.
Re: Noisy punters are an issue for Joe
Posted: 16 Apr 2008, 18:05
by Maelstrom
Chambers2 wrote:Noisy punters are an issue for Joe
Apr 16 2008 by Delme Parfitt, South Wales Echo
JOE Calzaghe has already spoken about the encouragement derived from the travelling hordes of British fight fans arriving in Las Vegas this week.
But yesterday we witnessed the first signs of that support disfiguring into boorish football-style chanting, the like of which eventually undermined rather than ignited Ricky Hatton’s ill-fated expedition to face Floyd Mayweather here last December.
The Mancunian fumbled around for a variety of excuses in the wake of the lesson he was taught by Mayweather before Christmas, refusing to acknowledge the glaring gulf in class.
Yet his reference to the disgust on the face of referee Joe Cortez’s face that evening as the Star Spangled Banner was drowned out by boos and whistles is not without significance.
Cortez is the man in the middle on Saturday night, and while there is an obvious need not to cloud his thinking through mass disrespect of his country’s anthem, there are other reasons why restraint is sorely needed at the Thomas and Mack Arena.
Hatton’s army sought to take over Vegas through volume of numbers and a typically tasteless back catalogue of terrace favourites.
It was all in the name of building up their man and unsettling his opponent.
But the whole sorry episode backfired completely, serving only to stiffen Mayweather’s resolve to show them who was in charge.
He did, emphatically. And with Calzaghe already up against factors such as a acclimatising to Sin City, a maiden fight at a heavier weight and the usual precursor that any victory must be comprehensive in the eyes of foreign judges, he could well do without the counter-productive tendencies of the mob.
It has not yet reached that stage, but with the migration from the UK set to intensify as the days go by, it could.
At the Planet Hollywood Hotel and Casino yesterday, both he and Hopkins staged open workouts.
Calzaghe was first up, walking in amid a wall of adoration, and if anything the confidence and competence of his routine underlined just how little he needs hecklers trying to fight his corner as well.
The Newbridge man pumped his fists relentlessly, ducked, bobbed, weaved and glided, never once losing his balance in the makeshift ring.
This may have been for show, but in camp Calzaghe there is never any justification for not doing things properly.
“We love you Joe,” came the cries. “South Wales!” “Risca boys, Joe!” Calzaghe was even asked to do the Ayatollah by one bloke set some distance back.
He didn’t bother tapping his head, but he waved intermittently, and flashed that smile too.
It was cheery, reassuring stuff, but then it took a different turn.
To appreciate the pantomime villain nature of Hopkins’ subsequent entrance you had to be there.
As if his route to the canvas being accompanied by a chorus of jeering wasn’t jolting enough, it got worse.
“Washed up old man, washed up old man!” That was the first ditty – to the tune of “Play up Pompey, Pompey play up” – struck up by one group.
Next up it was: “There’s only one Joe Calzaghe, one Joe Calzaaaaaaghe”, followed by “Wales, Wales!” a la the Millennium Stadium as the national rugby team chases the Grand Slam.
By this time an inflatable daffodil had appeared and the volume had ratcheted up a few notches.
It was even drowning out Hopkins at one stage as he tried to hold an impromptu chat with journalists at ringside.
Nothing wrong with voicing your support for sure, but when a few over-zealous Brits began shouting “You’re going down old man” at the American from outside the public cordon but within 10 yards of him, you sensed things going rather too far.
They were obviously unaware just how much Hopkins revels in his Executioner nickname, how comfortable he is with being deeply unpopular.
It must have been lost on the boo-boys that this 43-year-old is one of the few US fighters despised even by large sections of boxing followers in his own country.
Which is why someone has to put out the message that Calzaghe’s procession towards the biggest night of his boxing life must not be allowed to head down the same road as Hatton’s, the road to raucous oblivion.
And with that in mind it will be more than a little interesting to see just what transpires at Friday’s weigh-in.
That's a good read, the British Boo Boys have been giving Nard some stick already

It's a good job they ain't playing the national anthems this time around else Joe will be getting warned for punching
COME ONE JOE CALZAGHE!!!!!
A truly pathetic article by a journalist scrabbling for some kind of unique 'insight'.
The crowd had no impact at all on the Hatton result, what a stupid parrallel. It won't here either. Calzaghe will dominate Hopkins, whether its in a packed arena or empty warehouse.
Posted: 16 Apr 2008, 18:20
by stujones
Chambers2 wrote:GLOBALBOX wrote:The Anthems are back in - Tom Jones singing the welsh one
Well I suppose 'Its not unusual'
Global, cheers for the pointing me in the way off Ladbrokes for my JC UD bets. I'll be retiring from betting if Calzaghe doesn't win a UD here
I wonder if that is a first... Tom singing the Welsh anthem on his own.
Only heard him once do it in a crowd (with Max Boyce and Michael Ball).
Posted: 18 Apr 2008, 07:51
by MightyWarrior
You just know those fans are going to boo the American anthem...hope not though.
Before the ODH fight, Hopkins threatened to pull out when he heard Cortez was the ref...