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EXPOSED! HERO TO ZERO IN ONE FIGHT
Posted: 18 Apr 2008, 08:04
by MightyWarrior
After the Cuban prospect Yoan Pablo Hernandez got exposed a few weeks back, Graham Houston highlighted a few other examples.
Who's next? Amir Khan maybe?
Any other good examples?
Boxers who went from being prospects to suspects in one fight
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing ... id=3327226
Although Minnesota's Duane Bobick had been heavily defeated by Teofilo Stevenson in the 1972 Olympic semifinals, he seemed to have the potential for success as a professional. A U.S. amateur champion, national Golden Gloves champion and Pan American Games gold medalist, Bobick was strong and willing and inevitably was considered as something of a latter-day white hope.
Bobick piled up a string of wins in carefully matched fights but never really developed much beyond being an earnest plodder. I saw him from ringside in Munich in 1976 when he overpowered the much smaller Jamaican Bunny Johnson on the Muhammad Ali-Richard Dunn show, and reported for the British publication Boxing News that Bobick "does not look ready to be pitched in with the very top contenders."
Revered trainer Eddie Futch did his best to correct technical flaws and, after 38 wins in a row and just a year after the fight in Germany, Bobick was matched with former champ Ken Norton at Madison Square Garden. It was more a quantum leap than a step-up fight for Bobick, who was demolished in 58 seconds. Bobick was knocked out three more times before retiring in 1979.
Norton v Bobick -
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=HiAYQKugc88
Posted: 18 Apr 2008, 08:06
by bennie
Houston actually tipped Bobick to beat Norton.
Posted: 18 Apr 2008, 08:10
by MightyWarrior
bennie wrote:Houston actually tipped Bobick to beat Norton.
ho ho, good memory
I was keeping an eye on the NY middleweight prospect Peter “Kid Chocolate” Quillin, who's been flattening everybody, as he was matched against Antwun Echols last week - that fight looked like it might be one of those moment of truth affairs. He came good with a points win in the end.
Posted: 18 Apr 2008, 08:13
by Old bones Ian
There have been many British level boxers that got a build up but fell short, but that is more on a British/Euro type of level.
There has not been many that were thought of as genuine world class prospects before failing. As we don't get that many.
Posted: 18 Apr 2008, 08:13
by bennie
Cooney deserves a mention. Never the same after Holmes (shades of Houston, Harry tipped the lumbering Irishman to win).
Posted: 18 Apr 2008, 08:16
by MightyWarrior
Over here I always think of our two big middle hopes of the 80's, Jimmy Price and Errol Christie - makes it all the more shocking when they get done inside a round.
Posted: 18 Apr 2008, 08:20
by bennie
Howard Davis in his pink shorts always springs to mind. This guy couldn't fail, they said.
Posted: 18 Apr 2008, 08:28
by Wales
Modern day I suppose Jeff Lacy is a prime example.
Posted: 18 Apr 2008, 08:42
by Asterix
You can't really say that Yoan Pablo Hernandez has been exposed. Fine, he lost. But does that mean he was exposed as someone who is not going to get a World title? On that basis you could say that David Haye was exposed against Carl Thompson.
Posted: 18 Apr 2008, 08:45
by Priff
What about Michael Grant?
I seem to remember he was pretty much "the next unified champion" before he got smashed up.
I'd say Wlad Klitchko against Sanders too.
Probably not many people's idea of a "Zero", but he never recovered the "Hero" tag, that's for sure.
Re: EXPOSED! HERO TO ZERO IN ONE FIGHT
Posted: 18 Apr 2008, 09:12
by Stocks
MightyWarrior wrote:After the Cuban prospect Yoan Pablo Hernandez got exposed a few weeks back, Graham Houston highlighted a few other examples.
Who's next? Amir Khan maybe?
Any other good examples?
Boxers who went from being prospects to suspects in one fight
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing ... id=3327226
Although Minnesota's Duane Bobick had been heavily defeated by Teofilo Stevenson in the 1972 Olympic semifinals, he seemed to have the potential for success as a professional. A U.S. amateur champion, national Golden Gloves champion and Pan American Games gold medalist, Bobick was strong and willing and inevitably was considered as something of a latter-day white hope.
Bobick piled up a string of wins in carefully matched fights but never really developed much beyond being an earnest plodder. I saw him from ringside in Munich in 1976 when he overpowered the much smaller Jamaican Bunny Johnson on the Muhammad Ali-Richard Dunn show, and reported for the British publication Boxing News that Bobick "does not look ready to be pitched in with the very top contenders."
Revered trainer Eddie Futch did his best to correct technical flaws and, after 38 wins in a row and just a year after the fight in Germany, Bobick was matched with former champ Ken Norton at Madison Square Garden. It was more a quantum leap than a step-up fight for Bobick, who was demolished in 58 seconds. Bobick was knocked out three more times before retiring in 1979.
Norton v Bobick -
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=HiAYQKugc88
Jeff Lacy and Joe Mesi after fighting Monte Barret!
Ones that this could happen to -
Posted: 18 Apr 2008, 18:56
by stujones
Ryan Rhodes vs Otis Grant?
Posted: 18 Apr 2008, 19:03
by Loftgroov
Agree with the comment above. Jeff Lacy should make the top 10!!
Every Yank pundit bar none seemed to be cock in hand harping on about how great he was going to be (e.g. post Robin Reid fight) and turned out to be a total hype job....
Posted: 18 Apr 2008, 19:22
by realboy
Mark Breland. Got knocked out by Marlon Starling in a shocker at the time.
Breland had won a gold medal at the 84 LA Games and was supposed to be the next big superstar. It was never the same after the Starling defeat.
Posted: 19 Apr 2008, 06:50
by ebeneezer
stujones wrote:Ryan Rhodes vs Otis Grant?
He was beat by Otis Grant but didn't exactly embarrass himself.
The Jason Mathews fight however......
Posted: 19 Apr 2008, 06:58
by Old bones Ian
realboy wrote:Mark Breland. Got knocked out by Marlon Starling in a shocker at the time.
Breland had won a gold medal at the 84 LA Games and was supposed to be the next big superstar. It was never the same after the Starling defeat.
Yeah in retrospect you can't believe that Brelands managment let him anywhere near Starling.
Posted: 19 Apr 2008, 06:59
by Matt W
Ricardo Williams & Francisco Bojado in recent years.
Posted: 19 Apr 2008, 07:03
by realboy
Old bones Ian wrote:realboy wrote:Mark Breland. Got knocked out by Marlon Starling in a shocker at the time.
Breland had won a gold medal at the 84 LA Games and was supposed to be the next big superstar. It was never the same after the Starling defeat.
Yeah in retrospect you can't believe that Brelands managment let him anywhere near Starling.
True.
Posted: 19 Apr 2008, 07:16
by Spud
Audley Harrison - but I suppose it took more than one fight for it all to sink in!!!
Posted: 19 Apr 2008, 07:18
by Goz
realboy wrote:Old bones Ian wrote:realboy wrote:Mark Breland. Got knocked out by Marlon Starling in a shocker at the time.
Breland had won a gold medal at the 84 LA Games and was supposed to be the next big superstar. It was never the same after the Starling defeat.
Yeah in retrospect you can't believe that Brelands managment let him anywhere near Starling.
True.
Breland did look good though - Starling really was the stereotype experienced veteran, even when he was in his 20s!
Posted: 19 Apr 2008, 07:46
by realboy
Goz wrote:realboy wrote:Old bones Ian wrote:
Yeah in retrospect you can't believe that Brelands managment let him anywhere near Starling.
True.
Breland did look good though - Starling really was the stereotype experienced veteran, even when he was in his 20s!
Awkward so and so, that Starling!
Posted: 19 Apr 2008, 08:08
by stujones
Shannon Briggs vs Daroll Wilson
Golota vs Lewis
Grant vs Golota.
Posted: 19 Apr 2008, 09:09
by m1kee50
Ricky Hatton, in some ways.
Posted: 19 Apr 2008, 10:54
by DG.
Top this!
Jorge Luis Gonzales Vs Riddick Bowe
This guy beat Lewis and Bowe as amateurs, trained himself and had no one in his corner during fights.
Also, He was Cuban!
Bowe beat dat ass!
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Posted: 19 Apr 2008, 13:30
by Goz
Tommy Morrison against Mercer pretty much exposed 'The Duke'.
Also domestically, anyone remember George Collins when Kirkland Laing battered him?