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Haye reckons Enzo C's training cost Macc the fight
Posted: 01 May 2008, 05:52
by whiskey
Courtesy of Boxing Monthly :-
"he has a freakishly good boxer as a son, but you could get Mr Bean to train joe and he's still be world champion"
"maccarinelli's a long-armed puncher who's advised to fight in close like joe does. its unnatural for maccarinelli to fight in close. it doesn't make sense, physically, for a 6ft 4in guy like that to do it.
All maccarinellis padwork that i saw was done at close range and i thought that was a red herring - something to trick me. surely the two enzo's weren't stupid enough to think that by copying joe calzaghe they could beat me?
At one point in training, adam said to me 'if maccarinelli carries on training with enzo calzaghe, this fight is going to be the easiest fight you've had amateur or pro'. Adams never said that to me before and he was 100% right"
"its like saying the only reason mike tyson won so many fights by ko is because opponents never stuck to their gameplan. if peter mcneeley didn't get sparked in the first round, he'd have destroyed tyson over 12 rounds. what kind of bullshit comment is that?"
"enzo calzaghe didn't give me any credit before the fight and he didn't give me any credit after the fight. he said that i didn't punch very hard and that maccarinelli was twice as fast. the last thing you want to tell one of my opponents is that i don't punch very hard!"
"i genuinely wish maccarinelli all the best, but if he wants any success in this sport, i believe he needs to get a boxing coach who is willing to treat maccarinelli as his own man and work on what he possesses, rather than turn him into something he's not and never will be"
Posted: 01 May 2008, 05:56
by Max Molyneux
No, Haye catching him early cost the fight and the way he went backwards too much giving Haye that distance to throw and land It.
Posted: 01 May 2008, 06:02
by Lenny
Max Molyneux wrote:No, Haye catching him early cost the fight and the way he went backwards too much giving Haye that distance to throw and land It.
Yep fancy Haye hitting him, no wonder he lost

Posted: 01 May 2008, 06:06
by Max Molyneux
Haye also says that Enzo will win back a title and not to write off and also says BJ Flores will clean out the Cruisers.
Posted: 01 May 2008, 06:10
by EddieShredder
Lenny wrote:Max Molyneux wrote:No, Haye catching him early cost the fight and the way he went backwards too much giving Haye that distance to throw and land It.
Yep fancy Haye hitting him, no wonder he lost

I thought that was a bit unfair to be honest. Big bully that he is

Posted: 01 May 2008, 06:16
by Max Molyneux
Enzo's a better trainer than Booth anyway, Mr Bean could train Haye and he still would of been Undisputed Cruiser champ, the guys too much like a personal trainer.
Wasn't Anthony Small trained by him for a bit?
Posted: 01 May 2008, 06:20
by Poncey
Max Molyneux wrote:
Wasn't Anthony Small trained by him for a bit?
Fearon for all his fights, until he lost to Pryce, I thought?
Posted: 01 May 2008, 06:21
by Max Molyneux
Must of only sparred Haye then, think a boxing monthly article had a pic of him In Booths gym.
Posted: 01 May 2008, 06:23
by Lenny
Small was with Booth until he joined SN I thought?
Posted: 01 May 2008, 06:24
by Scrap
The winners always right
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Posted: 01 May 2008, 06:32
by Poncey
Max Molyneux wrote:Must of only sparred Haye then, think a boxing monthly article had a pic of him In Booths gym.
I thought he was based at Cityboxer gym with Williams. Shirow can clarify, as it's his old haunt.
Posted: 01 May 2008, 06:33
by Autobarn
After all the arse licking of the two Enzos on Setanta I'm glad to read stuff like this.
Posted: 02 May 2008, 09:12
by berealman
I used tio like Enzo C, but I've really gone off him, he thinks hes got a free licence to fly off the handle.
Posted: 02 May 2008, 09:19
by banjo
Enzo Calzaghe is just our very own version of Roger Mayweather, they both train unique fighters who would be world champs regardless of who trained them.
Plus Enzos gutter talk gets on my tits "effin this, effin that", WOW you can swear, now act your age.
Posted: 02 May 2008, 09:24
by DavidPayne
Trust Me, Trust Me, Trust Me!!!!
Posted: 02 May 2008, 09:29
by Poncey
My client keeps shouting that. He asked if all Welsh people act like him.
Rat-a-tat-tat-tat. Rat-a-tat-tat-tat.
Posted: 02 May 2008, 09:34
by DavidPayne
It was the first time I didn't think Enzo was in charge in the corner.
Posted: 02 May 2008, 09:46
by Rocky Balboa
"its like saying the only reason mike tyson won so many fights by ko is because opponents never stuck to their gameplan. if peter mcneeley didn't get sparked in the first round, he'd have destroyed tyson over 12 rounds. what kind of bullshit comment is that?"
I had to laugh when I read the above. Haye makes some valid points about Enzo Calzaghe. Calzaghe snr never gave Haye any credit for his performance, which showed he was not a gracious in defeat.
Haye was the better man by a long, long way on the night. He sparked Enzo good & proper. That's the fact, that's what go into the results book.
Posted: 02 May 2008, 09:46
by Chambers2
I'd love to have seen Enzo when he read Hayes article. "....feck fcuking feck 12 ROUNDS!!..bastard fecker.... UP HIS OWN ARSE!... feck twat bollox"
Posted: 02 May 2008, 10:16
by Eraserhead
DavidPayne wrote:Trust Me, Trust Me, Trust Me!!!!
I liked Dean Powell's line directly after that. Something like, "now let's tell him how to do it, shall we?". The look on Powell's face was priceless.
Posted: 02 May 2008, 10:51
by DavidPayne
Yeh, got a bit of time for Powell. He's been a round corners for a long time. He may be Ibiza orange but he's a steady voice in there.
I'd be surprised if Khan's next fight is anything but a patsy until the corner is settled down.
But I'm ready Rees elsewhere, which isn't a gimme.
Posted: 07 May 2008, 20:05
by Gray-Fox
1. Small WAS trained by Booth prior to whomever he's with now, FACT.
2. Enzo's trainer of the year award sums up the reactionary nature of unknowledgeable boxing fans and writers alike.
Posted: 08 May 2008, 02:00
by Autobarn
I like to hear this from Haye.
Imagine all the crap that Enzo would've been saying if Macca had beaten Haye.
Posted: 08 May 2008, 02:13
by m1kee50
Enzo and Hatton both looked very jumpy, animated, on their ways in. Haye was relaxed, like he was on Valium. I turned to my dad watching it with me and right then said "Haye does him" up till that point I was rooting for Enzo, but he had the look of someone for whom adrenalin had gotten higher priority than the gameplan
Posted: 08 May 2008, 05:37
by josh fg
I think Enzo Calzaghe has come accross as a compleet prick since his man got beat, no contrician for his fighter lots of its not my fault gov.
Haye looks like a better fighter since he turned pro which for me shows that Booth is a good quality trainer, look how his jab has improved since the Thompson fight.