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Worst Ever World Champion?
Posted: 18 May 2008, 05:42
by DG.
Gie the name and reason!
I say Carlos Maussa!
NO skill - you would think he had never boxed in his life.
Yes, he can punch, but that is about it.
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Posted: 18 May 2008, 05:43
by m1kee50
Gavin Rees
Not to take anything away from him, but he was extremely FWortunate to get a shot
Posted: 18 May 2008, 05:51
by gb
Luis Santana.
Beat Terry Norris twice by DQ. Should never have gotten a shot in the first place.
Posted: 18 May 2008, 05:52
by DG.
gb wrote:Luis Santana.
Beat Terry Norris twice by DQ. Should never have gotten a shot in the first place.
I was just thinking about that!
But he waa a better fighter than Maussa.. Just!
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Posted: 18 May 2008, 06:01
by gb
DG. wrote:gb wrote:Luis Santana.
Beat Terry Norris twice by DQ. Should never have gotten a shot in the first place.
I was just thinking about that!
But he waa a better fighter than Maussa.. Just!
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Actually, just had a look at his record and think I'm being a bit unfair. He had a string of seven losses in eight just before the Norris shot, but the quality of opposition was terrific; Paz, Crisato Espana, Simon Brown, Glenwood Brown, Aaron Davis, Vince Pettway.
So I suppose he was in the Freddie Pendelton/ Emmanuel Augustus (maybe even Glen Johnson) situation.
Posted: 18 May 2008, 06:33
by DG.
gb wrote:DG. wrote:
I was just thinking about that!
But he waa a better fighter than Maussa.. Just!
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Actually, just had a look at his record and think I'm being a bit unfair. He had a string of seven losses in eight just before the Norris shot, but the quality of opposition was terrific; Paz, Crisato Espana, Simon Brown, Glenwood Brown, Aaron Davis, Vince Pettway.
So I suppose he was in the Freddie Pendelton/ Emmanuel Augustus (maybe even Glen Johnson) situation.
But he shold win MOST COWARDLY way to win a World Tiotle.
He out OSCARED Oscar De La Hoya with his acting skills.
Oscar hitting the canvas had nothing on LS acting!
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Posted: 18 May 2008, 06:35
by DG.
jackthehat wrote:I dont rate Carlos Mausa but didnt he knock Vivian Harris out?????????? u know Vivian Harris the best guy who Witter ever fought
Watch the fight.
Maussa ws beong beaten to shit and landed a punch on a gassed Harris.
His form since show the real Maussa, why else wold Hatton fight him.
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Posted: 18 May 2008, 06:38
by chris s
William Guthrie, Francesco Damiani, Michael Bent
Posted: 18 May 2008, 07:18
by dragons
Junior yawn yawn Witter.
Posted: 18 May 2008, 07:24
by DG.
dragons wrote:Junior yawn yawn Witter.
You think Maussa is a better fighter than Witter?
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Posted: 18 May 2008, 07:26
by Punchy Joe
Bruce Seldon
Posted: 18 May 2008, 07:26
by m1kee50
DG. wrote:dragons wrote:Junior yawn yawn Witter.
You think Maussa is a better fighter than Witter?
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Posted: 18 May 2008, 07:37
by josh fg
Hassim Rahman?
Posted: 18 May 2008, 09:14
by lowersmiths
steve roberts
Posted: 18 May 2008, 09:40
by stujones
Michael Bentt
Not sure if he counts - but Frans Botha must be worthy of a mention. Although I don't think he is now ever classified as an IBF titlist.
Posted: 18 May 2008, 09:47
by DG.
lowersmiths wrote:steve roberts
WBF?
Does not count.
That is below Area level, imo.
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Posted: 18 May 2008, 09:59
by lowersmiths
he was announced as a world champ and sky called it world championship boxing.
i still hold a big grudge against roberts for that whole charade. hopefully a ''where are they now'' feature will have him cleaning toilets out or something.
Posted: 18 May 2008, 10:09
by TerribleTerry
Punchy Joe wrote:Bruce Seldon
Good shout. 'The Atlantic City Express' was awful.
His capitulation at the feet of Tyson just reinforced his 'paper champion' status in my eyes.
Posted: 18 May 2008, 10:46
by DG.
lowersmiths wrote:he was announced as a world champ and sky called it world championship boxing.
i still hold a big grudge against roberts for that whole charade. hopefully a ''where are they now'' feature will have him cleaning toilets out or something.
Saw Steve Roberts a few years ago.
Doing very well,house paid off. Has his own Cpmpany - he is an electrician.
He was a decent boxer, boring but decent.
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Re: Worst Ever World Champion?
Posted: 19 May 2008, 06:48
by Poncey
Primo Carnera.
Re: Worst Ever World Champion?
Posted: 19 May 2008, 06:53
by Autobarn
It's not nice to deceive people with fake titles. However, if Roberts used boxing to be a successful person in life it's hard to begrudge that.
It's the Board, the promoters and Sky who are to blame. If a guy can get away with that and make some money, he bloody well will. Stabdards should be there, but they haven't always been.
Re: Worst Ever World Champion?
Posted: 19 May 2008, 07:06
by DG.
Autobarn wrote:It's not nice to deceive people with fake titles. However, if Roberts used boxing to be a successful person in life it's hard to begrudge that.
It's the Board, the promoters and Sky who are to blame. If a guy can get away with that and make some money, he bloody well will. Stabdards should be there, but they haven't always been.
I suppose with the limited career boxers have - you have to maje the ££s as quickly as possible.
British Title defence £15K
IBO/WBU Title Defence £30K
What would you do?
In years to come, the IBO will be regarded wuite highly due to theor reating systemds.
Plus RJJ - Lennox and others all held the belt with pride for a while.
WBU? Useless!

Re: Worst Ever World Champion?
Posted: 19 May 2008, 07:36
by Poncey
DG. wrote:Autobarn wrote:It's not nice to deceive people with fake titles. However, if Roberts used boxing to be a successful person in life it's hard to begrudge that.
It's the Board, the promoters and Sky who are to blame. If a guy can get away with that and make some money, he bloody well will. Stabdards should be there, but they haven't always been.
I suppose with the limited career boxers have - you have to maje the ££s as quickly as possible.
British Title defence £15K
IBO/WBU Title Defence £30K
What would you do?
In years to come, the IBO will be regarded wuite highly due to theor reating systemds.
Plus RJJ - Lennox and others all held the belt with pride for a while.
WBU? Useless!

I agree mate. I like the IBO, they have a decent ratings system, don't strip fighters for fighting non-sensical mandatories (from memory, anyway) and have a very good list of fighters who hold/have held it:
Klit
RJJ
Tarver
Hopkins
Hatton
Darchinyan
I prefer them to the WBO.
Re: Worst Ever World Champion?
Posted: 19 May 2008, 08:17
by DG.
Emerson Poncey Name Ghent wrote:DG. wrote:Autobarn wrote:It's not nice to deceive people with fake titles. However, if Roberts used boxing to be a successful person in life it's hard to begrudge that.
It's the Board, the promoters and Sky who are to blame. If a guy can get away with that and make some money, he bloody well will. Stabdards should be there, but they haven't always been.
I suppose with the limited career boxers have - you have to maje the ££s as quickly as possible.
British Title defence £15K
IBO/WBU Title Defence £30K
What would you do?
In years to come, the IBO will be regarded wuite highly due to theor reating systemds.
Plus RJJ - Lennox and others all held the belt with pride for a while.
WBU? Useless!

I agree mate. I like the IBO, they have a decent ratings system, don't strip fighters for fighting non-sensical mandatories (from memory, anyway) and have a very good list of fighters who hold/have held it:
Klit
RJJ
Tarver
Hopkins
Hatton
Darchinyan
I prefer them to the WBO.
Not forgetting South Londons best ever Light Middleweight Richard Williams!
Stockwell in the house!
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Re:
Posted: 19 May 2008, 08:27
by observer1
josh fg wrote:Hassim Rahman?
Come on mate, you cant compare Hasim to some of the Names in this Thread, He Beat Lewis Fairly. Something a lot of Other Boxers could not.
Can't take anything away from him.