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The Ultimate Roadwarrior?

Posted: 07 Jun 2008, 04:50
by Counter-puncher
I saw a Brian Mitchell fight last night, I believe they were calling him the ultimate roadwarrior, the WBA refused to sanction bouts in SA so he just took his show on the road. Glen Johnson would be the obvious example nowadays.

but who would you say were the ultimate roadwarriors from boxing's history? does Lamotta count fighting in chicago because he wasn't in with theNYC mob?

Re: The Ultimate Roadwarrior?

Posted: 07 Jun 2008, 05:01
by JC

Re: The Ultimate Roadwarrior?

Posted: 07 Jun 2008, 08:32
by scartissue
Counter-puncher wrote:I saw a Brian Mitchell fight last night, I believe they were calling him the ultimate roadwarrior, the WBA refused to sanction bouts in SA so he just took his show on the road. Glen Johnson would be the obvious example nowadays.

but who would you say were the ultimate roadwarriors from boxing's history? does Lamotta count fighting in chicago because he wasn't in with theNYC mob?
I believe Eddie Perkins holds the record for countries visited at like 23, and many of them he visited several times. Close on his heels would be Angel Robinson Garcia. Check out their records and you'll see what I mean.

Scartissue

Re: The Ultimate Roadwarrior?

Posted: 07 Jun 2008, 14:41
by My2Sense
Ray Robinson, Kid Gavilan, and Joe Brown all got around.

Re: The Ultimate Roadwarrior?

Posted: 07 Jun 2008, 15:55
by pete
If I remember correctly Eusebio Pedroza during his title reign. often fought in his opponents backyard.

Re: The Ultimate Roadwarrior?

Posted: 07 Jun 2008, 16:48
by allworld80
Winky Wright fought like 17 straight fights in Europe, and 20 overall I think. How many other longtime P4P top 10 guys have done that? (I know he wasn't a P4P guy while he was doing it, by the way)

Re: The Ultimate Roadwarrior?

Posted: 08 Jun 2008, 13:42
by raylawpc
I think the first true "road warrior" was Jem Mace - who fought in England and America and toured the world into his 60s giving exhibitions.

Re: The Ultimate Roadwarrior?

Posted: 09 Jun 2008, 04:02
by Counter-puncher
thanks for the replies 8)

Re: The Ultimate Roadwarrior?

Posted: 09 Jun 2008, 09:14
by dempseyfire
Tommy Burns, Larry Gains

Re: The Ultimate Roadwarrior?

Posted: 09 Jun 2008, 11:39
by Broncano
Angel Robinson Garcia:

http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?hu ... r&pageID=4

and a personal favorite, who only fought in about a dozen countries in the Americas (never in the U.S.) but was almost always the "traveling foreigner":

Carlos (Charlie) Perez

http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?hu ... r&pageID=1

Re: The Ultimate Roadwarrior?

Posted: 09 Jun 2008, 11:51
by granberry
Broncano wrote:Angel Robinson Garcia:

http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?hu ... r&pageID=4

and a personal favorite, who only fought in about a dozen countries in the Americas (never in the U.S.) but was almost always the "traveling foreigner":

Carlos (Charlie) Perez

http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?hu ... r&pageID=1
Broncano,

Any special reason his never fought in the US?

Re: The Ultimate Roadwarrior?

Posted: 09 Jun 2008, 13:12
by Broncano
granberry wrote:
Broncano wrote:Angel Robinson Garcia:

http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?hu ... r&pageID=4

and a personal favorite, who only fought in about a dozen countries in the Americas (never in the U.S.) but was almost always the "traveling foreigner":

Carlos (Charlie) Perez

http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?hu ... r&pageID=1
Broncano,

Any special reason his never fought in the US?
It might have been because He fought during an era when few fighters outside of Mexico, Cuba or Puerto Rico made it to the U.S.

I believe however that he would have made for a great attraction had he ever made it to the American circuit. Just take a look at his record:

*Beat Kid Tunero (In Cuba) 2 out of 3

*Lost and drew on points against Jose Basora

*went the distance against Omelio Agramonte in Cuba

*showed up in Peru as a seasoned veteran and shattered the career of a promising undefeated middleweight, Peruvian Antonio Frontado (who in turn had beaten South American champ Raul Rodriguez, a fighter who our very own Martin Sosa Cameron ranks as one the top South American middleweights of all time). Before a capacity crowd of 30,000 in Lima's Bull Ring he floored Frontado 5 times before they counted him out in the third round. The loss was taken as a national tragedy because Frontado had been planning to make the move to the U.S. and make a challenege for the top 10 and eventually the world crown.

In fact, most experts on South American boxing rank Frontado in the history of Peruvian boxing only second to Mauro Mina.

*Taking Lima as his adoptive home, Perez then fought highly regarded Argentinian Mario Diaz, a crafty middleweight with 90 professional bouts under his belt, conqueror of fighters like Eduardo Lausse, Kid Cachetada, Pilar Bastidas, among others... a fighter who had barely lost a majority decision against no one other than Kid Gavilan, and whose 9 losses (in 90 bouts) had all come by way of points. Again Martin Sosa Cameron can give you more details on the great pugilist Mario Diaz was.

Two minutes into the first round Charlie Perez presented him with a brutal left hook to the body (his signature punch). Diaz collapsed and he was counted out. Ringside reporters say the ref counted 10 but he might as well have counted him 100.

It was also probably the first time Perez had the crowd on his side, because the Peruvian fans had taking him as an adoptive son

*A few months later New Yorker Artie Towne (then ranked as one of the best 10 middleweights in the world) made his way to Lima and boxed circles around Antonio Frontado on his way to a comfortable points win. The dissapointed Peruvian fans ralllied for Perez to step up and avenge Frontado's loss. Perez was no match for the exquisite boxer Towne was and saw himself losing almost every round up until the last 10 seconds of the 9th when in a rare exchange of blows a devastating left cross exploded on Towne's face and sent him staggering to the ropes before the bell. Back in his corner he realized colorful Charlie Perez had broken his nose. So he made sure he stayed away from him in the 10th and got the decision.

There's a picture of Towne boarding the plane on his way back to the US with a huge bandage over his nose, as if he had undergone nasal surgery. That surgeon of course had been the dangerous Carlos Perez a.ka. Charlie Perez a.ka. "El Zurdo del Higuamo"

Re: The Ultimate Roadwarrior?

Posted: 09 Jun 2008, 14:08
by elmersalsa
Eusebio Pedroza has the world record of most title defenses made in opponents home turf with 10. No other world champion has come close in title defenses in opponents' back yard. :TU: :TU: :TU:

Re: The Ultimate Roadwarrior?

Posted: 09 Jun 2008, 18:06
by Broncano
Carlos Pérez a.k.a "El Zurdo del Higuamo"


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