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Worst ever refereeing displays?

Posted: 11 Jun 2008, 04:35
by TheGoods
Just watched the full Danny Williams v Konstantin Airich fight on youtube and have to say the performance of Alfonso Garcia Perez was abolutely unreal! Got mde thinking if there has ever been a more shambolic refereeing display? The only one I could think of off the top of my head to run it close was Roger Tilleman in the 2003 Sven Ottke - Robin Reid bout. Any other third man classics you can think of chaps?

Re: Worst ever refereeing displays?

Posted: 11 Jun 2008, 04:53
by funso banjo baby
well...lets just stick with poor Danny for a bit...

the referee against Tyson was a complete pussy

also i tended to err in favour of Michael Sprotts 'Sharkey' moment in their 2nd fight (richie Davies)

as for the heavyweights ? just a few wrong stoppages ..Dokes Weaver 1 springs to mind

Re: Worst ever refereeing displays?

Posted: 11 Jun 2008, 05:06
by Captain Hook
The ref for Tyson v Lewis was appalling, kept telling Lennox off for hitting him. His name has escaped me now..

Eddie......?

Reid v Ottke was bad. Cortez in Hatton v Mayweather was frustrating, and Frank Cappacino used to piss me off because he would get so involved and stop the fight for daft reasons.

Some of the European refs (Dutch, Belgian etc) are the most bent.

Re: Worst ever refereeing displays?

Posted: 11 Jun 2008, 05:35
by Coco
Cortez for Hatton v PBF and JC v B-Hop was awful, thankfully neither display affected the results

Re: Worst ever refereeing displays?

Posted: 11 Jun 2008, 05:36
by josh fg
Roger Tillerman was one of the judges when Thaxton was fighting for the EBU title a couple of months ago, was the only person who booed him... I think the Williams reff was worse, Eddie Cotton looked like he was going to warn Lewis after he KOed tyson as well!

Re: Worst ever refereeing displays?

Posted: 11 Jun 2008, 05:54
by Podmore_Birmingham
Jay Nady when handling Maskaev-Rahman II. He was awful; trying to find any excuse in the book to make sure Oleg didn’t win. When Hasim was knocked down in the last, I’m sure Nady ripped a loose bit of tape on Rahman’s gloves so to give him more time to clear his head.

Re: Worst ever refereeing displays?

Posted: 11 Jun 2008, 05:56
by hitman_hatton1
eddie cotton for lewis-tyson.

jay nady for corrales-gainer.

richard steele for chavez-taylor and tyson-ruddock 1.

roger tillerman for ottke-reid.

benn-mcclellan ref.

Re: Worst ever refereeing displays?

Posted: 11 Jun 2008, 06:02
by Peter Hick
Hatton v Tszyu!

Re: Worst ever refereeing displays?

Posted: 11 Jun 2008, 06:06
by banjo
Jay Nady - Trinidad v Vargas

The French Guy - Benn v McClellan

Eddie Cotton - Lewis v Tyson

Of the ones i've seen anyway.

Re: Worst ever refereeing displays?

Posted: 11 Jun 2008, 06:12
by hitman_hatton1
banjo wrote:Jay Nady - Trinidad v Vargas
i didn't think he had a bad one for that.

he punished tito for the low blows.

perhaps he should have stopped it a little earlier in the 12th.

plus the cameraman got it.

"i don't want camera in this ring" :lol:

Re: Worst ever refereeing displays?

Posted: 11 Jun 2008, 06:30
by Poncey
What does everyone think for Nady in Judah v Tszyu?

Also, Steele (I think it was him but not sure) for Taylor v Chavez I?

Re: Worst ever refereeing displays?

Posted: 11 Jun 2008, 06:43
by Lenny
i'm one of the few people who think Taylor v Chavez was a right stoppage. Taylor was in no fit state to continue, regardless of how long was left on the clock.

The fight ruined him anyway and there was still time for him to take a few more blows.

Shame pretty much every top ref has been mentioned - i'll go with Gunn v Gross but well worth it for comedy value.

Which recent fight did the ref help the fighter of the canvas before counting?

Re: Worst ever refereeing displays?

Posted: 11 Jun 2008, 06:52
by banjo
Emerson Poncey Name Ghent wrote:What does everyone think for Nady in Judah v Tszyu?

Also, Steele (I think it was him but not sure) for Taylor v Chavez I?
Nady was spot on for Tszyu v Judah, Zab went down, got up, went down again, got up again and was still all over the place.

As for Steele during Chavez v Taylor 1, it's not his job to know how much time is left in the round, so he was justified in stopping the fight as Taylor was badly hurt.

Re: Worst ever refereeing displays?

Posted: 11 Jun 2008, 06:53
by hitman_hatton1
Emerson Poncey Name Ghent wrote:What does everyone think for Nady in Judah v Tszyu?
forgot about that one.

i thought nady messed up again.

he should have continued counting it.

but he just waved it when judah fell back down.

it was early in the count when judah fell back down.

u don't just wave it off. :roll:

Re: Worst ever refereeing displays?

Posted: 11 Jun 2008, 06:56
by hitman_hatton1
Lenny wrote:i'm one of the few people who think Taylor v Chavez was a right stoppage. Taylor was in no fit state to continue, regardless of how long was left on the clock.
the problem i have with it is that taylor was up early in the count.

a little like judah was actually. :)

he should have been allowed to go on.

Re: Worst ever refereeing displays?

Posted: 11 Jun 2008, 06:59
by hitman_hatton1
banjo wrote:Nady was spot on for Tszyu v Judah, Zab went down, got up, went down again, got up again and was still all over the place.
tbf to judah.

he was up after about 7 or 8 if nady had kept counting.

and even though he was a little shaky he was looking at nady and saying he was alright.

i thought nady got that wrong.

Re: Worst ever refereeing displays?

Posted: 11 Jun 2008, 07:00
by banjo
hitman_hatton1 wrote:
banjo wrote:Jay Nady - Trinidad v Vargas
i didn't think he had a bad one for that.

he punished tito for the low blows.

perhaps he should have stopped it a little earlier in the 12th.

plus the cameraman got it.

"i don't want camera in this ring" :lol:
Vargas was hurt and only carried on due to his courage, like you said it should have been stopped sooner in the 12th as Vargas took needless punishment in that round which IMO he has never fully recovered from.

By the way was anyone else shocked when Vargas ended up on his arse twice within the first minute of this fight?

Re: Worst ever refereeing displays?

Posted: 11 Jun 2008, 07:03
by MightyWarrior
Yeah I always thought Nady f***ed up the Tszyu/Judah fight - the round had just ended when he waved if off as well. A reaction to him letting the Trinidad/Vargas fight go on too long previously I think - in short, he messed up in both fights.

Re: Worst ever refereeing displays?

Posted: 11 Jun 2008, 07:06
by MightyWarrior
And Steel was right to end the Chavez/Taylor fight - Taylor had taken a HELL of a beating in there, swallowing blood round after round - in fact Steel's actions there turned the fight in to an all time legendary night, a back from the brink win never to be forgoten.

Judah by comparison, had taken about ONE punch all night.

Re: Worst ever refereeing displays?

Posted: 11 Jun 2008, 07:08
by hitman_hatton1
MightyWarrior wrote:Yeah I always thought Nady f***ed up the Tszyu/Judah fight - the round had just ended when he waved if off as well.
at last. :P

someone who agrees with me on this.

let's compare it to tyson-berbick.

mills lane reffed that fight.

berbick went back down not once but twice.

but during all that lane gave berbick a count and gave him a chance to get it back together.

obviously in the end berbick was gone and lane rightly stopped it.

but he gave him the chance. :roll:

Re: Worst ever refereeing displays?

Posted: 11 Jun 2008, 07:09
by Poncey
Nady for Mayweather v Judah (or was it Baldomir?) purely for what he said to Floyd. Cock end.

Re: Worst ever refereeing displays?

Posted: 11 Jun 2008, 07:11
by Podmore_Birmingham
Emerson Poncey Name Ghent wrote:Nady for Mayweather v Judah (or was it Baldomir?) purely for what he said to Floyd. Cock end.
The: “It’s an honour to referee your fight?”

To be fair to Nady – and I don’t rate him – he also said that to Baldomir.

Re: Worst ever refereeing displays?

Posted: 11 Jun 2008, 07:13
by hitman_hatton1
MightyWarrior wrote:And Steel was right to end the Chavez/Taylor fight - Taylor had taken a HELL of a beating in there, swallowing blood round after round - in fact Steel's actions there turned the fight in to an all time legendary night, a back from the brink win never to be forgoten.

Judah by comparison, had taken about ONE punch all night.
i agree he took a lot.

but my problem with it is that he was up early.

if he'd struggled up at 8 or 9 i can understand steele waving him off.

but this was the final rd of the fight (forget how many secs was left) and he was ahead in the fight.

i mean come on man!!!! :D

Re: Worst ever refereeing displays?

Posted: 11 Jun 2008, 07:18
by Poncey
Did anyone else see Cortez getting his photo taken with Floyd after the Hatton fight? That got my goat up as well.

Double cock end.

Re: Worst ever refereeing displays?

Posted: 11 Jun 2008, 07:30
by Captain Hook
Yeah I saw that, the guy has had his day. where are the good YOUNG referees?

Mitch Halpern was always my favourite...