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A CLASSIC EXAMPLE
Posted: 18 Jun 2008, 21:45
by granberry
unnamed wrote:
. . .In boxing, however, the equipment is basically the same as it's always been.
The boxrec poster above
(who will remained unnamed to spare his feelings)
has just contributed
a classic example
of the current Larry Merchant, Bert Sugar educated boxing "fan" and his "knowledge."
The ignorance on display is breathtaking :
Jack Dempsey and Jess Willard fought for the
heavyweight title with
FIVE ounce gloves.
Modern heroes Ray Leonard and Marvin Hagler fought for the middleweight title with
TEN ounce gloves.
As far as the modern 'fan' knows, that is the same.
The above-quoted statement serves as a prime example of the total success of the current media indoctrination of the clueless public when it comes to 'boxing."
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Re: A CLASSIC EXAMPLE
Posted: 18 Jun 2008, 21:57
by Robinson
Can I say something about 'weights' of gloves.
Sure they weight 5 ounces or 10 ounces but leather versus more
modern polymears makes a difference on sweat absorbtion and
wear and tear.
Lighter gloves protect the fighters hands, create LESS concussive
injuries. Are harder to defend with, easier to land pin point shots with.
I am no specialist on the matter and I am only going by what
I have found in my own experiences and what I have
observed.
I fight with MMA 5 ounce gloves and I would rather be hit with those
than some one thumping me from a boxing stance in 18ounce gloves.
All things being equal.
This is just my opinion. Modern gloves protect the fighters hands.
Groin guards to me is a big factor, these days since the mid 90s
it seems to have been accepted that a fighter can wear a
guard up to there arm pits...what is that ???
Re: A CLASSIC EXAMPLE
Posted: 19 Jun 2008, 01:16
by Grimm
Robinson wrote:Can I say something about 'weights' of gloves.
Sure they weight 5 ounces or 10 ounces but leather versus more
modern polymears makes a difference on sweat absorbtion and
wear and tear.
Lighter gloves protect the fighters hands, create LESS concussive
injuries. Are harder to defend with, easier to land pin point shots with.
I am no specialist on the matter and I am only going by what
I have found in my own experiences and what I have
observed.
I fight with MMA 5 ounce gloves and I would rather be hit with those
than some one thumping me from a boxing stance in 18ounce gloves.
All things being equal.
This is just my opinion. Modern gloves protect the fighters hands.
Groin guards to me is a big factor, these days since the mid 90s
it seems to have been accepted that a fighter can wear a
guard up to there arm pits...what is that ???
I disagree about the weight of the gloves.
I spar with 16 ounce gloves which are very cushioned while in fights we use 12 ounce gloves which hurt more.
I think that's why the padding is lower for lower weight classes because they aren't hitting as hard as the heavier ones.
Re: A CLASSIC EXAMPLE
Posted: 19 Jun 2008, 02:12
by Diamond WEAPON
Grimm wrote:Robinson wrote:Can I say something about 'weights' of gloves.
Sure they weight 5 ounces or 10 ounces but leather versus more
modern polymears makes a difference on sweat absorbtion and
wear and tear.
Lighter gloves protect the fighters hands, create LESS concussive
injuries. Are harder to defend with, easier to land pin point shots with.
I am no specialist on the matter and I am only going by what
I have found in my own experiences and what I have
observed.
I fight with MMA 5 ounce gloves and I would rather be hit with those
than some one thumping me from a boxing stance in 18ounce gloves.
All things being equal.
This is just my opinion. Modern gloves protect the fighters hands.
Groin guards to me is a big factor, these days since the mid 90s
it seems to have been accepted that a fighter can wear a
guard up to there arm pits...what is that ???
I disagree about the weight of the gloves.
I spar with 16 ounce gloves which are very cushioned while in fights we use 12 ounce gloves which hurt more.
I think that's why the padding is lower for lower weight classes because they aren't hitting as hard as the heavier ones.
Exactly, the heavier gloves have more padding which protect fighters hands yes, but they also lessen the force of the impact (although they distribute it over a larger area as well, creating a more thudding effect with less sharpness), imagine Wladimir Klitschko hitting somebody with 5 oz. gloves!
Also the heavier gloves obviously slow down the punches of the fighters wearing them, and speed is another major component of power.