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mike tyson (prime)

Posted: 02 Jul 2008, 08:10
by jackallensfc
if mike tyson in his prime fort lennox lewis in his prime who would win this time round



and is he the best knockout artist of al time?/ :box: :wink:

Re: mike tyson (prime)

Posted: 02 Jul 2008, 08:20
by p4p1
i dont think he is the best knockout artist of all time there were better ones

if he was in his prime i do believe he could of beaten lewis if he was in his prime but it would never be a certainty

Re: mike tyson (prime)

Posted: 02 Jul 2008, 08:34
by TheOneIsHere2008
jackallensfc wrote:if mike tyson in his prime fort lennox lewis in his prime who would win this time round



and is he the best knockout artist of al time?/ :box: :wink:
He was in his prime against James Douglas and look what happened... Lewis had the tools to beat him and when he showed Tyson he wasn't scared of him Tyson would have reacted the way he always did when confronted with adversity...

Re: mike tyson (prime)

Posted: 02 Jul 2008, 08:40
by lukesfc
TheOneIsHere2008 wrote:
jackallensfc wrote:if mike tyson in his prime fort lennox lewis in his prime who would win this time round



and is he the best knockout artist of al time?/ :box: :wink:
He was in his prime against James Douglas and look what happened... Lewis had the tools to beat him and when he showed Tyson he wasn't scared of him Tyson would have reacted the way he always did when confronted with adversity...
how was tyson in his prime against douglas you fool he was in his prime in the 80s tyson of the 80s would have destroyed litreally destroyed lewis............

Re: mike tyson (prime)

Posted: 02 Jul 2008, 08:52
by TheOneIsHere2008
lukesfc wrote:
TheOneIsHere2008 wrote:
jackallensfc wrote:if mike tyson in his prime fort lennox lewis in his prime who would win this time round



and is he the best knockout artist of al time?/ :box: :wink:
He was in his prime against James Douglas and look what happened... Lewis had the tools to beat him and when he showed Tyson he wasn't scared of him Tyson would have reacted the way he always did when confronted with adversity...
how was tyson in his prime against douglas you fool he was in his prime in the 80s tyson of the 80s would have destroyed litreally destroyed lewis............

He was twenty four when he fought James Douglas...Maybe twenty four is the retirement age in the U K but it isn't in the U.S.

Everytime he fought somebody who wasn't who scared of him he folded like a cheap suit even if it was a tomato can like James Douglas or Kevin McBride...

Re: mike tyson (prime)

Posted: 02 Jul 2008, 08:54
by lukesfc
woops i got mcbride and douglas mixed up

my bad

Re: mike tyson (prime)

Posted: 02 Jul 2008, 08:58
by TheOneIsHere2008
lukesfc wrote:woops i got mcbride and douglas mixed up

my bad
It's ok... People are and were blinded by Tyson's early success..

The Queen should knight Lenox Lewis...He's an amazing man and boxer...He would have done well in any era...

People are blinded when it comes to Tyson...He lost to Douglas and Holy at 24, 30, and 31...He should presumably have been at or near his prime at those ages...He was 36 when Lenox beat him but Lenox was 37.

Re: mike tyson (prime)

Posted: 02 Jul 2008, 09:00
by lukesfc
i still think tyson waws the better fighter if it came down to prime V.s Prime. :wink:

Re: mike tyson (prime)

Posted: 02 Jul 2008, 09:08
by p4p1
lukesfc wrote:i still think tyson waws the better fighter if it came down to prime V.s Prime. :wink:
it would be a very hard fight for tyson but lewis didnt have the best chin

Re: mike tyson (prime)

Posted: 02 Jul 2008, 09:19
by TheOneIsHere2008
p4p1 wrote:
lukesfc wrote:i still think tyson waws the better fighter if it came down to prime V.s Prime. :wink:
it would be a very hard fight for tyson but lewis didnt have the best chin

Lenox was just so massive and could fight...

And a good guy to boot...

Re: mike tyson (prime)

Posted: 02 Jul 2008, 09:20
by Jaywheel
lukesfc wrote:i still think tyson waws the better fighter if it came down to prime V.s Prime. :wink:
x3

Are you sure?

Re: mike tyson (prime)

Posted: 03 Jul 2008, 14:54
by funso banjo baby
two different eras

no point comparing

tysons first run was impressive up to douglas.

lennox beat evryone he ever fought..

when was lennoxs and tysons peak anyway

Re: mike tyson (prime)

Posted: 03 Jul 2008, 16:01
by Realrobroy
Tyson always looked less impressive against taller fighters, Lewis was better in allmost every aspect than any of those.As well Tyson admitted in the post fight interview , when asked if he felt he could have beaten Lewis in his prime " I could never beat him, he's just too strong ."

Re: mike tyson (prime)

Posted: 03 Jul 2008, 18:03
by cultus
Everytime he fought somebody who wasn't who scared of him he folded like a cheap suit even if it was a tomato can like James Douglas or Kevin McBride...
you simply don't know much about boxing, taken from a simple fact that you Bring McBride into this.

Re: mike tyson (prime)

Posted: 05 Jul 2008, 12:57
by TheOneIsHere2008
cultus wrote:
Everytime he fought somebody who wasn't who scared of him he folded like a cheap suit even if it was a tomato can like James Douglas or Kevin McBride...
you simply don't know much about boxing, taken from a simple fact that you Bring McBride into this.
I was a little harsh when it comes To Buster Douglas...But McBride was indeed a tomato can...

He folded against Lewis and Holy but those men were good fighters not tomato cans...That was my point...

Even the famous Joe Frazier said that Tyson did well against fighters "who didn't hit him back" for whatever reason...

Re: mike tyson (prime)

Posted: 05 Jul 2008, 15:06
by Big Bad John
Realrobroy wrote:Tyson always looked less impressive against taller fighters
  • Buster Douglas: 6'4"
  • Evander Holyfield: 6'3"
  • Lennox Lewis: 6'5"
  • Danny Williams: 6'3"
  • Kevin McBride: 6'6"
Hmmmm....

Re: mike tyson (prime)

Posted: 05 Jul 2008, 15:28
by meade95
Both are great fighters - Tyson had huge power, fast hands, and good at cutting off the ring - Solid chin too - Lennox used his size well, safety first type fighter, good jab, big right hand......used uppercut well.......so/so chin.....

Prime Vs Prime.......Tyson feasted off guys that wanted to back away and not engage him.......I see a prime Tyson cutting off the ring on Lennox and forcing him to trade backing away........If Lennox could get through the first 6 rounds he might be able to bang out a Dec......

My prediction would be Tyson by TKO inside of 8 rounds...

Re: mike tyson (prime)

Posted: 05 Jul 2008, 15:40
by Collins2000
If peak Tyson landed the sort of punch on peak Lewis that he landed on Berbick I think it would be lights out for Lennox.

Re: mike tyson (prime)

Posted: 05 Jul 2008, 15:42
by Big Bad John
Mike Tyson having a "solid chin" is so overrated. Lewis was knocked out twice, and he avenged both defeats. Tyson was knocked out six times, and he didn't avenge any of those defeats. Tyson's fundamental flaws are more of a liability than Lewis's chin.

Re: mike tyson (prime)

Posted: 05 Jul 2008, 15:52
by Collins2000
Big Bad John wrote:Mike Tyson having a "solid chin" is so overrated. Lewis was knocked out twice, and he avenged both defeats. Tyson was knocked out six times, and he didn't avenge any of those defeats. Tyson's fundamental flaws are more of a liability than Lewis's chin.
Lewis avenging his KO losses is laudable but it doesn't alter the fact the KO's occurred. And they were bad one punch KO's by guys who no one would rank amongst the premier heavies of all time.

There seems to be a tendency these days to downplay the McCall loss and claim Lewis could have continued. In my opinion when a ref motions the fighter to walk towards him and that fighter then stumbles into him then it's time to wave it off.

Re: mike tyson (prime)

Posted: 05 Jul 2008, 15:58
by Big Bad John
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Re: mike tyson (prime)

Posted: 05 Jul 2008, 16:06
by Collins2000
Big Bad John wrote:This post was made by Collins2000 who is currently on your ignore list. Display this post.
Was it something I said, Zac?

:D

Re: mike tyson (prime)

Posted: 05 Jul 2008, 18:28
by ebeneezer
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You can't expect to be taken seriously as an arrogant know it all boxing expert anymore after you were outed so badly as a big foreheaded gimp who talks like Richard Simmons on helium.

That ship has sailed Hanscom.

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Posted: 05 Jul 2008, 19:56
by Big Bad John
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Re: mike tyson (prime)

Posted: 06 Jul 2008, 22:51
by My2Sense
jackallensfc wrote:if mike tyson in his prime fort lennox lewis in his prime who would win this time round

and is he the best knockout artist of al time?/ :box: :wink:
1) Lennox.

2) No.