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Light Heavyweight Elimination Tournament
Posted: 08 Jul 2008, 12:10
by TheOneIsHere2008
Archie Moore
Bob Foster
Michael Spinks
Ezzard Charles
Roy Jones
Who would be left standing?
Re: Light Heavyweight Elimination Tournament
Posted: 08 Jul 2008, 12:21
by dempseyfire
Charles
Re: Light Heavyweight Elimination Tournament
Posted: 08 Jul 2008, 12:26
by TheOneIsHere2008
dempseyfire wrote:Charles
Or maybe The Old Mongoose....
Re: Light Heavyweight Elimination Tournament
Posted: 08 Jul 2008, 12:30
by observer1
Spinks, easy
Re: Light Heavyweight Elimination Tournament
Posted: 08 Jul 2008, 13:09
by Big Bad John
TheOneIsHere2008 wrote:dempseyfire wrote:Charles
Or maybe The Old Mongoose....
Given that Moore in his prime went 0-3 against Charles, I don't see how.
Re: Light Heavyweight Elimination Tournament
Posted: 08 Jul 2008, 14:14
by bjermaine
jones wins decisions against all of these great fighters. speed kills.
Re: Light Heavyweight Elimination Tournament
Posted: 08 Jul 2008, 14:20
by Big Bad John
Jones's looping punches would fall right into Ezzard Charles's gameplan. Charles could box like crazy, and he had serious power. Ezzard Charles moving up to heavyweight against John Ruiz would be a just another minor card. He obliterated shitty heavyweights like Ruiz, and he beat some of the greatest heavyweights of all time while basically being an overfed super middleweight/light heavyweight.
Re: Light Heavyweight Elimination Tournament
Posted: 08 Jul 2008, 15:00
by bjermaine
Big Bad John wrote:Jones's looping punches would fall right into Ezzard Charles's gameplan. Charles could box like crazy, and he had serious power. Ezzard Charles moving up to heavyweight against John Ruiz would be a just another minor card. He obliterated shitty heavyweights like Ruiz, and he beat some of the greatest heavyweights of all time while basically being an overfed super middleweight/light heavyweight.
not sure what "looping" punches your talking about. if i recall correctly, jones obliterated ruiz also. i agree that this fight would be the toughest for jones out of all of the fighters were listed.
Re: Light Heavyweight Elimination Tournament
Posted: 08 Jul 2008, 15:16
by BoxBuzz
Every time Moore faced Charles it was a pick 'em fight. Ezzard had remarkable luck in this series IMHO....so in this theoretical his luck FINALLY runs out and Moore is the one left standing. But without a doubt it's one of those two.
Re: Light Heavyweight Elimination Tournament
Posted: 08 Jul 2008, 15:27
by Big Bad John
BoxBuzz wrote:Every time Moore faced Charles it was a pick 'em fight. Ezzard had remarkable luck in this series IMHO....so in this theoretical his luck FINALLY runs out and Moore is the one left standing. But without a doubt it's one of those two.
Ezzard Charles sent Moore to the canvas every time they met, and he knocked him out for good with a right cross in their third bout. Moore later said that he simply couldn't beat Charles.
Re: Light Heavyweight Elimination Tournament
Posted: 08 Jul 2008, 15:52
by dr_devious
Langford
Re: Light Heavyweight Elimination Tournament
Posted: 08 Jul 2008, 20:55
by theone
Charles or Spinks.
Re: Light Heavyweight Elimination Tournament
Posted: 09 Jul 2008, 04:37
by Ezzard
1) Charles
2) Moore
3) Spinks
4) Foster
5) Jones
3 and 4 could be the other way round...
Tunney, Loughran, Gibbons, Langford could all be in this too...
Re: Light Heavyweight Elimination Tournament
Posted: 10 Jul 2008, 15:27
by actjac
Jones would be left standing. However if Tunney were also in this he would be in the finals.
Re: Light Heavyweight Elimination Tournament
Posted: 10 Jul 2008, 17:51
by My2Sense
Ezzard wrote:1) Charles
2) Moore
3) Spinks
4) Foster
5) Jones
3 and 4 could be the other way round...
Exactly the way I see it.
Re: Light Heavyweight Elimination Tournament
Posted: 10 Jul 2008, 17:58
by My2Sense
actjac wrote:Jones would be left standing.
I don't see how. He was the least durable of them all, and every one of these fighters was better and hit harder than anyone he's ever faced in his career.
Re: Light Heavyweight Elimination Tournament
Posted: 10 Jul 2008, 23:12
by I Feel Fine
Charles would win, and Charles is the greatest Light Heavyweight of all time, in my mind anyway.
Re: Light Heavyweight Elimination Tournament
Posted: 12 Jul 2008, 12:15
by bjermaine
My2Sense wrote:actjac wrote:Jones would be left standing.
I don't see how. He was the least durable of them all, and every one of these fighters was better and hit harder than anyone he's ever faced in his career.
james toney belongs in the same class as the fighters listed. not from an accomplishment stand point but from a fighting one.
Re: Light Heavyweight Elimination Tournament
Posted: 12 Jul 2008, 15:22
by Minotauro
Ezzard Charles would win it.
Re: Light Heavyweight Elimination Tournament
Posted: 12 Jul 2008, 16:29
by My2Sense
bjermaine wrote:
james toney belongs in the same class as the fighters listed. not from an accomplishment stand point but from a fighting one.
Not really, for several reasons.
First of all, we're talking about light-heavyweight, and Toney was never great there by any standards.
And even at his best weight class (either 160 or 168, take your pick) he is not rated in the same regard as these other fighters are in their best weight class (175).
And Toney was never a puncher on the level of any of these fighters, in any weight class he fought in.
Re: Light Heavyweight Elimination Tournament
Posted: 12 Jul 2008, 18:36
by Big Bad John
Toney is around #40 on my list of the best light heavyweights of all time, mostly for what he did at 168 (I don't rank junior divisions).