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Welterweight Elimination Tournament

Posted: 09 Jul 2008, 09:23
by TheOneIsHere2008
Sugar Ray Robinson

Sugar Ray Leonard

Tommy "The Hit Man" Hearns

Pernell "Sweet Pea " Whittaker

Roberto "Hands Of Stone" Duran

Re: Welterweight Elimination Tournament

Posted: 09 Jul 2008, 11:12
by Borinken25
First place - Sugar Ray Robinson
Second - Sugar Ray Leonard
Third - Thomas Hearns
Forth - Roberto Duran
Fifth - Pernell Whitaker

Re: Welterweight Elimination Tournament

Posted: 09 Jul 2008, 11:15
by TheOneIsHere2008
Borinken25 wrote:First place - Sugar Ray Robinson
Second - Sugar Ray Leonard
Third - Thomas Hearns
Forth - Roberto Duran
Fifth - Pernell Whitaker
That's how I see it but if the Sugar Rays fought ten times I can see Leonard winning four...

Re: Welterweight Elimination Tournament

Posted: 09 Jul 2008, 17:58
by Big Bad John
Jose Napoles would beat all of them.

Re: Welterweight Elimination Tournament

Posted: 09 Jul 2008, 19:06
by Borinken25
Big Bad John wrote:Jose Napoles would beat all of them.
No way Napoles beat them all. Prime for Prime

Ray Robinson beats Napoles in an exciting match but he beat him.

Sugar Ray Leonard outboxes him for a decision.

Nobody outboxes Hearns, not even Sugar Ray Leonard. Napoles has a puncher chance but by decision I’ll go all the way with Hearns. And lets not forget that Hearns was a murderous puncher at 147.

Roberto Duran vs Napoles is a 60 – 40 for Duran in my opinion.

The only one I think Napoles beat is Whitaker and is 60 – 40 for Napoles.

Re: Welterweight Elimination Tournament

Posted: 10 Jul 2008, 17:45
by My2Sense
Big Bad John wrote:Jose Napoles would beat all of them.
I think that's very questionable. Napoles beat possibly the weakest comp. out of all of them.

The best guy he beat was Griffith, who was already a shell of his former self by that time (and sucking back down to welter for the first time in years made his status even more questionable). And except for Cokes, the era as a whole was a fairly shallow one for welterweights (for example, fighters like Armando Muniz and Red Lopez were also beaten by a faded Griffith, and Billy Backus was one of the weakest fighters ever to win a lineal title).

Re: Welterweight Elimination Tournament

Posted: 10 Jul 2008, 17:49
by My2Sense
TheOneIsHere2008 wrote:Sugar Ray Robinson

Sugar Ray Leonard

Tommy "The Hit Man" Hearns

Pernell "Sweet Pea " Whittaker

Roberto "Hands Of Stone" Duran
If we're limiting ourselves to just these five, then my answer is:

1) Robinson
2) Leonard
3) Hearns
4) Whitaker
5) Duran

I can see Duran and Whitaker being switched, as Duran had the bigger wins at that weight IMO (Leonard and Palomino), but I penalized Duran for having such a brief prime at that weight and quitting to Leonard in the rematch.