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Ring Magazine's One Hundred Greatest Punchers

Posted: 14 Jul 2008, 23:08
by TheOneIsHere2008
1.Joe Louis
2. Sam Langford
3. Jimmy Wilde
4. Archie Moore
5. Sandy Saddler
6. Stanley Ketchell
7. Jack Dempsey
8. Bob Fitzsimmons
9. George Foreman
10. Earnie Shavers
11. Sugar Ray Robinson
12. Ruben Olivares
13. Wilfredo Gomez
14. Rocky Marciano
15. Sonny Liston
16. Mike Tyson
17. Bob Foster
18. Thomas Hearns
19. Khaosai Galaxy
20. Alexis Arguello
21. Carlos Zarate
22. Max Baer
23. Rocky Graziano
24. Matthew Saad Muhammad
25. Julian Jackson
26. Danny Lopez
27. Gerald McClellan
28. Roberto Duran
29. Rodrigo Valdez
30. Felix Trinidad
31. Pipino Cuevas
32. Jim Jefferies
33. Lennox Lewis
34. Bennie Briscoe
35. Marvin Hagler
36. Edwin Rosario
37. Tommy Ryan
38. John Mugabi
39. Joe Frazier
40. Carlos Monzon
41. Tony Zale
42. Michael Spinks
43. Joe Gans
44. Elmer Ray
45. George Godfrey
46. Naseem Hamed
47. Alfonso Zamora
48. David Tua
49. Cleveland Williams
50. Julio Cesar Chavez
51. Tiger Jack Fox
52. Joe Walcott
53. Gerry Cooney
54. Al (Bummy) Davis
55. Max Schmeling
56. Florentino Fernandez
57. Henry Armstrong
58. Bob Satterfield
59. Al Hostak
60. Jesus Pimentel
61. Eugene (Cyclone) Hart
62. Lew Jenkins
63. Harry Wills
64. Tom Sharkey
65. Terry McGovern
66. Jersey Joe Walcott
67. Kostya Tszyu
68. Leotis Martin
69. Buddy Baer
70. Donovan (Razor) Ruddock
71. Jose Luis Ramirez
72. Tommy Gomez
73. Jose Napoles
74. Kid McCoy
75. Antonio Esparragoza
76. Ricardo Moreno
77. Evander Holyfield
78. Ike Williams
79. Luis Firpo
80. Ricardo Lopez
81. Humberto Gonzalez
82. Bobby Chacon
83. Jock McAvoy
84. Eduardo Lausse
85. Eder Jofre
86. Charley Burley
87. Mike McCallum
88. Salvador Sanchez
89. Roy Jones Jr.
90. Rodolfo Gonzalez
91. Nigel Benn
92. (Irish) Bob Murphy
93. Paul Berlenbach
94. Battling Torres
95. Chalky Wright
96. George (K.O.) Chaney
97. Andy Ganigan
98. Fred Fulton
99. Ingemar Johansson
100. Charley White

Re: Ring Magazine's One Hundred Greatest Punchers

Posted: 14 Jul 2008, 23:21
by Martin Sosa Cameron
This boys knew of José Carattoli and Rafael Merentino?

Re: Ring Magazine's One Hundred Greatest Punchers

Posted: 14 Jul 2008, 23:40
by Seamus
Barry's Top 100 was better.

Re: Ring Magazine's One Hundred Greatest Punchers

Posted: 14 Jul 2008, 23:43
by Martin Sosa Cameron
Seamus wrote:Barry's Top 100 was better.

Is that I thinks


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Re: Ring Magazine's One Hundred Greatest Punchers

Posted: 15 Jul 2008, 00:07
by TheOneIsHere2008
Seamus wrote:Barry's Top 100 was better.
Where is Barry's?

Re: Ring Magazine's One Hundred Greatest Punchers

Posted: 15 Jul 2008, 00:31
by Seamus
It was on the old forum.

Re: Ring Magazine's One Hundred Greatest Punchers

Posted: 15 Jul 2008, 07:54
by granberry
The clueless don't know that the RING magazine ended in the early 1970's when Nat Fleischer died.

After that it became a disgrace to its original existence as a series of clowns succeeded each other as editors---Nat loubet, Bert Sugar, Steve Farhood, and the drugged out 1960's lefty, Nigel Collins.

This so-called list from the RING magazine is a farce from the farce that the magazine became once Fleischer died.

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Re: Ring Magazine's One Hundred Greatest Punchers

Posted: 15 Jul 2008, 13:24
by BoxBuzz
I take it your point is that you consider the Ring's opinion in this area to be lacking in genuine credibility.

But as we know opinions are well....what they are. Barry's list was an interesting contrast for sure.

Re: Ring Magazine's One Hundred Greatest Punchers

Posted: 15 Jul 2008, 15:54
by Martin Sosa Cameron
BoxBuzz wrote:But as we know opinions are well....what they are. Barry's list was an interesting contrast for sure.

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Re: Ring Magazine's One Hundred Greatest Punchers

Posted: 15 Jul 2008, 17:09
by Big Bad John
Overrated:
  • Stanley Ketchell
  • Khaosai Galaxy (seriously, above Arguello?!?!?!)
  • Gerald McClellan
  • Felix Trinidad
  • Tom Sharkey
  • Evander Holyfield
  • Ricardo Lopez
  • Ingemar Johansson
  • Kostya Tszyu (seriously, he lands solid punch after solid punch on Hatton, but Mayweather - who's supposed to be feather fisted - takes him out with a left hook?)
  • Max Schmeling (it took him dozens of overhand rights to stop Louis)
  • Leotis Martin
Underrated:
  • Lennox Lewis
  • Tiger Jack Fox
  • Bob Satterfield
  • Charley Burley
  • Eduardo Lausse
  • Julian Jackson
  • Terry McGovern

Re: Ring Magazine's One Hundred Greatest Punchers

Posted: 15 Jul 2008, 17:36
by Martin Sosa Cameron
Sean O'Grady?


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Re: Ring Magazine's One Hundred Greatest Punchers

Posted: 15 Jul 2008, 17:44
by granberry
Everyone who fought him said Aurelio Herrera was the greatest puncher they fought.

But what did they know?

Re: Ring Magazine's One Hundred Greatest Punchers

Posted: 15 Jul 2008, 19:19
by Big Bad John
Based on the great fighters he knocked out, Muhammad Ali definitely belongs on that list. Leotis Martin got on the list for stopping Liston once. Ali did it twice.

Re: Ring Magazine's One Hundred Greatest Punchers

Posted: 15 Jul 2008, 19:28
by elmersalsa
Big Bad John wrote:Based on the great fighters he knocked out, Muhammad Ali definitely belongs on that list. Leotis Martin got on the list for stopping Liston once. Ali did it twice.
Does Ali has a better KO percentage than Leotis Martin?

Re: Ring Magazine's One Hundred Greatest Punchers

Posted: 15 Jul 2008, 19:29
by elmersalsa
I would like to see barry's 100 greatest KO punchers list and compare it to the one The Ring has.

Re: Ring Magazine's One Hundred Greatest Punchers

Posted: 15 Jul 2008, 19:36
by granberry
Big Bad John wrote:Based on the great fighters he knocked out, Muhammad Ali definitely belongs on that list. Leotis Martin got on the list for stopping Liston once. Ali did it twice.
But the Leotis Martin KO of Liston was NOT a fake.

Re: Ring Magazine's One Hundred Greatest Punchers

Posted: 15 Jul 2008, 19:51
by TheOneIsHere2008
granberry wrote:
Big Bad John wrote:Based on the great fighters he knocked out, Muhammad Ali definitely belongs on that list. Leotis Martin got on the list for stopping Liston once. Ali did it twice.
But the Leotis Martin KO of Liston was NOT a fake.

You are a one trick pony...


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Re: Ring Magazine's One Hundred Greatest Punchers

Posted: 15 Jul 2008, 21:25
by BoxBuzz
you can do a search and bring up barry's list...or is the search feature still fractured?

Re: Ring Magazine's One Hundred Greatest Punchers

Posted: 15 Jul 2008, 22:51
by Martin Sosa Cameron
Voilà! Barry's list is in the great Cyber Boxing Zone; I hope you enjoy it:

http://www.cyberboxingzone.com/cbzforum ... t+Punching


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Re: Ring Magazine's One Hundred Greatest Punchers

Posted: 16 Jul 2008, 00:33
by Big Bad John
elmersalsa wrote:
Big Bad John wrote:Based on the great fighters he knocked out, Muhammad Ali definitely belongs on that list. Leotis Martin got on the list for stopping Liston once. Ali did it twice.
Does Ali has a better KO percentage than Leotis Martin?
I was just eliciting the expected response from Granberry.

Re: Ring Magazine's One Hundred Greatest Punchers

Posted: 16 Jul 2008, 14:37
by Minotauro
Barbados Joe Walcott, Nigel Benn, Bob Foster, Ike Williams and Bob Satterfield deserve to be higher and Joe Choynski deserves a mention guy was a supper middleweight knocking out heavys. I believe Jack Johnson and Jeffries said he was the hardest hitter they ever faced. Also Holyfield, Monzon, Firpo, Tom Sharkey, Ketchel and Graziano are too high.

Re: Ring Magazine's One Hundred Greatest Punchers

Posted: 16 Jul 2008, 22:48
by Collins2000
Good to see Anton and Ric are cleaning up the mess created by granberry again.

Has any other poster forced so many threads to be locked?

They banned him from CBZ and Eastside before he got too comfortable as the resident troll.

Re: Ring Magazine's One Hundred Greatest Punchers

Posted: 17 Jul 2008, 04:16
by My2Sense
I think Hagler and Briscoe are rated much too high (they usually got most of their KOs by accumulation of punches, whereas most of the others on this list are explosive one-shot artists).

Bob Satterfield should be higher IMO.

I think Lloyd Marshall could/should be on this list.

I don't think Sal Sanchez and Ricardo Lopez belong on here. I think a better case could be made for Azumah Nelson, Rubin Carter, or Dick Tiger than either of them.

Re: Ring Magazine's One Hundred Greatest Punchers

Posted: 17 Jul 2008, 10:34
by Flump
granberry wrote:The noticeable characteristic of Collins in his new alias as The/One

is that he absolutely BELIEVES anything printed or posted on the web.

Collins quotes devoutly from websites which pander disgustingly to Ali,

from Monte Cox, known as Monte the thief for his stealing of the material of others

from a made up quote by Ali shill Mark Kram,

and now this crap from the sorry rag that the RING magazine became since Nat Fleischer died in the early 1970’s.

The crap that Collins/TheOne devoutly posts here is from the screwed up remnant of the RING now churned out by drugged out 1960’s radical Nigel Collins.

Collins/TheOne believes every word from the current abomination that he ignorantly believes is the RING magazine.
Kram was Don King's paid shill, not Ali's, did you read Ghosts of Manila?

Re: Ring Magazine's One Hundred Greatest Punchers

Posted: 17 Jul 2008, 11:22
by Ambling Alp
elmersalsa wrote:
Big Bad John wrote:Based on the great fighters he knocked out, Muhammad Ali definitely belongs on that list. Leotis Martin got on the list for stopping Liston once. Ali did it twice.
Does Ali has a better KO percentage than Leotis Martin?
Yes, for what it's worth, Ali does have a higher KO percentage than Leotis Martin.