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Mike Tyson

Jose Torres

Floyd Patterson

It seems Torres adopted D'Amato's metaphysical approach to boxing and saw it as a metaphor for something larger...

TheOneIsHere2008 wrote:Mike Tyson

Jose Torres

Floyd Patterson

It seems Torres adopted D'Amato's metaphysical approach to boxing and saw it as a metaphor for something larger...

You know, it's funny. Torres probably absorbed and internalized more than the other two on an intellectual level, but he was probably the least-skilled fighter of the three. In terms of boxing achievement, I would say the right order is Tyson, Patterson, Torres. But Torres didn't need boxing because he was more capable of other things than were the other two. He's no Proust or anything, but he's probably the best writer of any boxer in history. That reads like a rather bold statement, but I can't think of anyone else right now.

EriqS wrote:

TheOneIsHere2008 wrote:Mike Tyson

Jose Torres

Floyd Patterson

It seems Torres adopted D'Amato's metaphysical approach to boxing and saw it as a metaphor for something larger...

You know, it's funny. Torres probably absorbed and internalized more than the other two on an intellectual level, but he was probably the least-skilled fighter of the three. In terms of boxing achievement, I would say the right order is Tyson, Patterson, Torres. But Torres didn't need boxing because he was more capable of other things than were the other two. He's no Proust or anything, but he's probably the best writer of any boxer in history. That reads like a rather bold statement, but I can't think of anyone else right now.

He writes very, very well...And when you consider he didn't have much in the way of formal education his writing looms even larger...

About D'Amato...I liked reading about what it was like when Tyson came into his life...He said that all his friends had died and he felt that was God's or nature's way of easing his path to the next life...But when Tyson arrived, he felt he had a reason for living; that he could create a world heavyweight champion...He also said he hadn't had an erection in fifteen years...That was something I didn't need to know...

TheOneIsHere2008 wrote:

EriqS wrote:

TheOneIsHere2008 wrote:Mike Tyson

Jose Torres

Floyd Patterson

It seems Torres adopted D'Amato's metaphysical approach to boxing and saw it as a metaphor for something larger...

You know, it's funny. Torres probably absorbed and internalized more than the other two on an intellectual level, but he was probably the least-skilled fighter of the three. In terms of boxing achievement, I would say the right order is Tyson, Patterson, Torres. But Torres didn't need boxing because he was more capable of other things than were the other two. He's no Proust or anything, but he's probably the best writer of any boxer in history. That reads like a rather bold statement, but I can't think of anyone else right now.

He writes very, very well...And when you consider he didn't have much in the way of formal education his writing looms even larger...

About D'Amato...I liked reading about what it was like when Tyson came into his life...He said that all his friends had died and he felt that was God's or nature's way of easing his path to the next life...But when Tyson arrived, he felt he had a reason for living; that he could create a world heavyweight champion...He also said he hadn't had an erection in fifteen years...That was something I didn't need to know...

I read that too. Just think, if Viagra had been around then, we might have never heard of Iron Mike.

It was a metaphor, of course, for his life...

The deep thinking boxer or trainer, full of wisdom... He seemed to have a impact on Torres and Patterson...On Tyson, not so much...

But when you read of how D' amato bought off any trouble that Tyson caused instead of controling the guy you realise he were'nt so great

telboy66 wrote:But when you read of how D' amato bought off any trouble that Tyson caused instead of controling the guy you realise he were'nt so great

That was Cus' Faustian Bargain and it sewed the seeds for Tyson's eventual demise...Like a Greek tragedy...

EriqS wrote:

TheOneIsHere2008 wrote:Mike Tyson

Jose Torres

Floyd Patterson

It seems Torres adopted D'Amato's metaphysical approach to boxing and saw it as a metaphor for something larger...

You know, it's funny. Torres probably absorbed and internalized more than the other two on an intellectual level, but he was probably the least-skilled fighter of the three. In terms of boxing achievement, I would say the right order is Tyson, Patterson, Torres. But Torres didn't need boxing because he was more capable of other things than were the other two. He's no Proust or anything, but he's probably the best writer of any boxer in history. That reads like a rather bold statement, but I can't think of anyone else right now.

Hi, EriqS!
Please, see this:
Boxing in Literature http://forum.boxrec.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=42880

Martin Sosa Cameron wrote:

EriqS wrote:

TheOneIsHere2008 wrote:Mike Tyson

Jose Torres

Floyd Patterson

It seems Torres adopted D'Amato's metaphysical approach to boxing and saw it as a metaphor for something larger...

You know, it's funny. Torres probably absorbed and internalized more than the other two on an intellectual level, but he was probably the least-skilled fighter of the three. In terms of boxing achievement, I would say the right order is Tyson, Patterson, Torres. But Torres didn't need boxing because he was more capable of other things than were the other two. He's no Proust or anything, but he's probably the best writer of any boxer in history. That reads like a rather bold statement, but I can't think of anyone else right now.

Hi, EriqS!
Please, see this:
Boxing in Literature http://forum.boxrec.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=42880

A Torres fan I see...

Good...

Hi, TheOneIsHere!

Yes, may be, a fan of Torres, but a fan of Literature, too

Martin Sosa Cameron wrote:Hi, TheOneIsHere!

Yes, may be, a fan of Torres, but a fan of Literature, too

Has any former championship boxer wrote as well as Torres?

No

Martin Sosa Cameron wrote:

EriqS wrote:

TheOneIsHere2008 wrote:Mike Tyson

Jose Torres

Floyd Patterson

It seems Torres adopted D'Amato's metaphysical approach to boxing and saw it as a metaphor for something larger...

You know, it's funny. Torres probably absorbed and internalized more than the other two on an intellectual level, but he was probably the least-skilled fighter of the three. In terms of boxing achievement, I would say the right order is Tyson, Patterson, Torres. But Torres didn't need boxing because he was more capable of other things than were the other two. He's no Proust or anything, but he's probably the best writer of any boxer in history. That reads like a rather bold statement, but I can't think of anyone else right now.

Hi, EriqS!
Please, see this:
Boxing in Literature http://forum.boxrec.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=42880

Thanks for posting that. I enjoyed it.