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British Top 30 P4P August 2008

Posted: 31 Jul 2008, 20:00
by Horse
1. (1.) Joe Calzaghe
2. (2.) Ricky Hatton
3. (3.) David Haye
4. (4.) Junior Witter
5. (5.) Clinton Woods
6. (6.) Alex Arthur
7. (7.) Carl Froch
8. (8.) Enzo Maccarinelli
9. (9.) Jamie Moore
10. (10.) Rendall Munroe

11. (11.) Amir Khan
12. (12.) Kevin Mitchell
13. (13.) John Duddy
14. (14.) Wayne Elcock
15. (18.) Bernard Dunne
16. (15.) Scott Harrison
17. (16.) Nicky Cook
18. (17.) Gavin Rees
19. (19.) Matt Skelton
20. (20.) Ian Napa

21. (21.) Colin Lynes
22. (25.) David Barnes
23. (22.) Dean Francis
24. (26.) Danny Williams
25. (23.) Kevin McIntyre
26. (24.) Bradley Pryce
27. (27.) Paul Appleby
28. (28.) Jonathan Thaxton
29. (29.) Carl Johanneson
30. (30.) Michael Jennings

Re: British Top 30 P4P August 2008

Posted: 31 Jul 2008, 20:00
by Horse
Any comments, criticisms or P4P lists are very welcome.

Re: British Top 30 P4P August 2008

Posted: 01 Aug 2008, 03:21
by Khaosai-Galaxy
Oh please God, not again...

Re: British Top 30 P4P August 2008

Posted: 01 Aug 2008, 09:30
by metropol
Again you have included dunne who is not british. If you want to include Irish fighters then should andy lee not get a place? as a lot of people would feel he would be above dunneaybe mcloskey and macklin deserve a place there especially macklin

Re: British Top 30 P4P August 2008

Posted: 01 Aug 2008, 09:40
by liamlion
metropol wrote:Again you have included dunne who is not british. If you want to include Irish fighters then should andy lee not get a place? as a lot of people would feel he would be above dunneaybe mcloskey and macklin deserve a place there especially macklin
Just out of interest, what has Macklin done of note?

Re: British Top 30 P4P August 2008

Posted: 01 Aug 2008, 09:50
by twenty six
Please don't get me goin again.
If Macklin should be in, what about the British LM Champion ?
Forget about Dunne - fuckin Scott Harrison is still in at 16 and he ain't got a fuckin licence.

Re: British Top 30 P4P August 2008

Posted: 01 Aug 2008, 09:58
by Lenny
Is Macklin classed as an Irish fighter and not a British fighter then?

Re: British Top 30 P4P August 2008

Posted: 01 Aug 2008, 10:03
by metropol
Lenny wrote:Is Macklin classed as an Irish fighter and not a British fighter then?
British he is from birmingham, with strong Irish connections played hurling for county tipp

Re: British Top 30 P4P August 2008

Posted: 01 Aug 2008, 10:04
by liamlion
Lenny wrote:Is Macklin classed as an Irish fighter and not a British fighter then?
He was born and bread in England with Irish parents. He considers himself Irish.

Re: British Top 30 P4P August 2008

Posted: 01 Aug 2008, 10:08
by metropol
liamlion wrote:
metropol wrote:Again you have included dunne who is not british. If you want to include Irish fighters then should andy lee not get a place? as a lot of people would feel he would be above dunneaybe mcloskey and macklin deserve a place there especially macklin
Just out of interest, what has Macklin done of note?
Nothing much exept he is a very talented fighter you could also say what has duddy done of note?

Re: British Top 30 P4P August 2008

Posted: 01 Aug 2008, 10:15
by liamlion
For a start, Duddy remains unbeaten against slightly better opposition than Macklin has fought.

Duddy is also a lot more active and, despite his limitations, appears to be making some headway in the sport.

Re: British Top 30 P4P August 2008

Posted: 01 Aug 2008, 11:30
by SOUTHPAW
Michael Jennings Should be higher(top 20)
John Duddy should not be there
Wayne Elcock should be much lower
Ryan Rhodes should just scrape in

Re: British Top 30 P4P August 2008

Posted: 01 Aug 2008, 11:49
by Horse
Khaosai-Galaxy wrote:Oh please God, not again...
I am sorry if you don't like it, Khaosai, but you can expect it again next month as well!

Re: British Top 30 P4P August 2008

Posted: 01 Aug 2008, 12:51
by Horse
metropol wrote:Again you have included dunne who is not british. If you want to include Irish fighters then should andy lee not get a place? as a lot of people would feel he would be above dunne
Irish fighters are allowed on the list. Andy Lee has not done enough to earn a place in the top 30, especially not enough to be placed ahead of Dunne.
metropol wrote:aybe mcloskey and macklin deserve a place there especially macklin
After beating Wright, McCloskey is getting close to a place on the list. Macklin needs to stay active and beat more decent fighters before I can put him in the top 30, because at the moment he is not even close to a place.

liamlion wrote:Just out of interest, what has Macklin done of note?
I would say these were the most note worthy fights he has had: Losing in a very good fight with Jamie Moore, losing to Andrew Facey and beating Luis Ramon Campas.

Re: British Top 30 P4P August 2008

Posted: 01 Aug 2008, 13:06
by tyson
Why Scott Harrison still in them he has not boxed for more then 12 months
Thought John Murray may have scrapped in .

Re: British Top 30 P4P August 2008

Posted: 01 Aug 2008, 14:09
by Horse
twenty six wrote:Please don't get me goin again.
If Macklin should be in, what about the British LM Champion ?
Forget about Dunne - fuckin Scott Harrison is still in at 16 and he ain't got a fuckin licence.
Scott Harrison will be removed next month, for the start of the new boxing season, unless there is a big change in his circumstances.

I am not sure who will replace him, but I have a month to figure that out.

Re: British Top 30 P4P August 2008

Posted: 01 Aug 2008, 14:17
by metropol
Horse I know a lot of people will call this nit picking but could you call this list british and Irish p4p top30? A la british and Irish lions

Re: British Top 30 P4P August 2008

Posted: 01 Aug 2008, 14:21
by metropol
SOUTHPAW wrote:Michael Jennings Should be higher(top 20)
John Duddy should not be there
Wayne Elcock should be much lower
Ryan Rhodes should just scrape in
I think John duddy does deserve a place afterall he is 25-0 and improving. He has also beaten eastman who is long past his best but still a though test.

Re: British Top 30 P4P August 2008

Posted: 01 Aug 2008, 14:43
by stujones
I know you don't like moving people down when they have won.... but Danny Williams moving up after that lazy, inept display when he showed he is just for the taking... sorry can't agree there. Even aside from a decision in which most seem to think he was lucky to get (I wasn't) - he was awful... shot.

Just wandering.... if Rogan smashes Audley - would he be considered.

Have you considered Sprott - cause lets not forget... He beat Williams in their last meeting... he smashed Audley (who technically should be ranked above Williams - given that he beat him last time they fought) and he actually held Skelton to a MD last time.

Re: British Top 30 P4P August 2008

Posted: 01 Aug 2008, 19:34
by Horse
SOUTHPAW wrote:Michael Jennings Should be higher(top 20)
Jennings has not done much lately, which has led to him having a relatively low ranking.
SOUTHPAW wrote:John Duddy should not be there
Duddy beat Eastman when Eastman was still in the top 30, so I think he has done enough to earn a place on the list.
SOUTHPAW wrote:Wayne Elcock should be much lower
Yes, Elcock is perhaps a little too high.
SOUTHPAW wrote:Ryan Rhodes should just scrape in
I can see why you would want Rhodes in your top 30, but in my opinion he has only had one big win in the last 5 years (Woolcombe), and in my opinion a win over Woolcombe is not enough to put him in above those currently at the bottom of my list.

Re: British Top 30 P4P August 2008

Posted: 01 Aug 2008, 21:00
by BigEars
It's a disgrace that you're even thinking about dropping Harrison, it's only been close to 3 years since his last fight.
After 4 he should be moved into the bottom half for inactivity and after 5 he could be considered for removal if someone else is strongly pushing the top 30.

Re: British Top 30 P4P August 2008

Posted: 01 Aug 2008, 23:13
by metropol
BigEars wrote:It's a disgrace that you're even thinking about dropping Harrison, it's only been close to 3 years since his last fight.
After 4 he should be moved into the bottom half for inactivity and after 5 he could be considered for removal if someone else is strongly pushing the top 30.
Agreed why is he there? can you change the title please of the thread?

Re: British Top 30 P4P August 2008

Posted: 01 Aug 2008, 23:16
by metropol
tyson wrote:Why Scott Harrison still in them he has not boxed for more then 12 months
Thought John Murray may have scrapped in .
Yes why isnt john murray in ?

Re: British Top 30 P4P August 2008

Posted: 02 Aug 2008, 12:21
by Horse
tyson wrote:Why Scott Harrison still in them he has not boxed for more then 12 months
I have decided to take Scott Harrison out next month as that is the start of the next boxing season.
tyson wrote:Thought John Murray may have scrapped in .
I considered entering John Murray into my list, but he has only just won the British title and although his win over Lee Meager was very impressive, I would prefer to see him beat more than one quality opponent before I enter him into the list.

Re: British Top 30 P4P August 2008

Posted: 03 Aug 2008, 12:00
by Horse
metropol wrote:Horse I know a lot of people will call this nit picking but could you call this list british and Irish p4p top30? A la british and Irish lions
I would rather leave the name as it is; I hope this does not cause any offence.