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I have to go with Gerry...The additional six inches, twety five pounds, and nine inches of reach is too much of an advantage to Jerry Quarry to compensate for...I look for an stoppage on cuts in the mid rounds.

TheOneIsHere2008 wrote:I have to go with Gerry...The additional six inches, twety five pounds, and nine inches of reach is too much of an advantage to Jerry Quarry to compensate for...I look for an stoppage on cuts in the mid rounds.

Jerry ate up the big, slow, bully types. Quarry, for me.

bennie wrote:

TheOneIsHere2008 wrote:I have to go with Gerry...The additional six inches, twety five pounds, and nine inches of reach is too much of an advantage to Jerry Quarry to compensate for...I look for an stoppage on cuts in the mid rounds.

Jerry ate up the big, slow, bully types. Quarry, for me.

How about Tommy Morrison?

I saw a big thread here on that...

TheOneIsHere2008 wrote:

bennie wrote:

TheOneIsHere2008 wrote:I have to go with Gerry...The additional six inches, twety five pounds, and nine inches of reach is too much of an advantage to Jerry Quarry to compensate for...I look for an stoppage on cuts in the mid rounds.

Jerry ate up the big, slow, bully types. Quarry, for me.

How about Tommy Morrison?

I saw a big thread here on that...

Quarry is the best white heavy since Marciano.

Quarry is a bad match up for Cooney, who doesnt have a good record vs young strong opponents coming to win.

overhand_right wrote:Quarry is a bad match up for Cooney, who doesnt have a good record vs young strong opponents coming to win.

This post sums up Cooney. You know, he went into the Holmes fight as betting favourite, thanks to the mug punters out there.

I think Cooney wins this one. I prefer Quarry as a fighter,
but I think that Cooney has the power and left hyook to
punish Quarry. Quarry makes a fight of it, as he always does,
but he is TKO'd mid wya through the fight.

But many here rate Quarry as the best never to win a belt..
so its hard to go against that sacred title.

Robinson wrote:I think Cooney wins this one. I prefer Quarry as a fighter,
but I think that Cooney has the power and left hyook to
punish Quarry. Quarry makes a fight of it, as he always does,
but he is TKO'd mid wya through the fight.

But many here rate Quarry as the best never to win a belt..
so its hard to go against that sacred title.

I think Cooney is being easily dismissed as well...I don't know what the consensus was on Quarry-Morrison but I like Morrison too...

Maybe I'm all wet... But those guys were legit big guys if not elite...

Many here will soon disagree with you....

I think Morrison's speed, power and left hook were impressive
his heart and at times chin really let him down. BUT I honestly
think at his best he gives alot of top guys in any era a tough fight...
I dont think he wins often...but he has danger in his fists.

The same can be said of Cooney off course.

Robinson wrote:Many here will soon disagree with you....

I think Morrison's speed, power and left hook were impressive
his heart and at times chin really let him down. BUT I honestly
think at his best he gives alot of top guys in any era a tough fight...
I dont think he wins often...but he has danger in his fists.

The same can be said of Cooney off course.

Prime Cooney v Prime Morrison would have been a great fight...

This is a tough call....I think Cooney wins that one by stoppage
but I suspect it would have its fireworks.

Robinson wrote:This is a tough call....I think Cooney wins that one by stoppage
but I suspect it would have its fireworks.

Jerry Quarry V Joe Bugner

Jerry Quarry V Ingo

Jerry Quarry V Henry Cooper

Robinson wrote:Many here will soon disagree with you....

I think Morrison's speed, power and left hook were impressive
his heart and at times chin really let him down.

Morrison's heart never let him down.

Say what you will about his shortcomings, but nobody can say Tommy lacked heart.

ebeneezer wrote:

Robinson wrote:Many here will soon disagree with you....

I think Morrison's speed, power and left hook were impressive
his heart and at times chin really let him down.

Morrison's heart never let him down.

Say what you will about his shortcomings, but nobody can say Tommy lacked heart.

You are right.. I retract that....thinking about that he did have heart.

TheOneIsHere2008 wrote:

Robinson wrote:This is a tough call....I think Cooney wins that one by stoppage
but I suspect it would have its fireworks.

Jerry Quarry V Joe Bugner

Jerry Quarry V Ingo

Jerry Quarry V Henry Cooper

I think Bugner stays away from Quarry and taps a jab at him
but Quarry counterpunches his way inside and wobbles the big
Briton. I see a tip top Bugner winning a close points victory.

I think Ingo and Quarry is an up and down affair, buth
mens right hands crushing the others jaw. I for some reason
see Ingo winning this fight. I think he has the power to keep
Quarry down and about the ring.

I think Quarry beats Cooper in a pretty spirited affair. Both men
bloodied and swollen faced. I see it going into the late rounds.
Good fight but Quarry wins it.

One you are really over-rating size here. A peak Ron Lyle hit as hard as a prime Cooney and had better overall skills and Quarry schooled him. Quarry had an iron jaw which withstood round after round of bombs from Norton, Frazier, Lyle, Foster, Ali etc. without going down, he's not going to be vulnerable to getting bombed out in the first 2 rounds. Quarry was quicker, had much better skills, a much stronger chin and superior stamina. By the 7th Cooney is tasting canvas. Quarry loses 3 rounds tops.

dempseyfire wrote:One you are really over-rating size here. A peak Ron Lyle hit as hard as a prime Cooney and had better overall skills and Quarry schooled him. Quarry had an iron jaw which withstood round after round of bombs from Norton, Frazier, Lyle, Foster, Ali etc. without going down, he's not going to be vulnerable to getting bombed out in the first 2 rounds. Quarry was quicker, had much better skills, a much stronger chin and superior stamina. By the 7th Cooney is tasting canvas. Quarry loses 3 rounds tops.

What about Bugner, Morrison, Cooper...

Might as well get every white heavyweight in of the last forty or so years...

How about Cobb? Wepner? Wlad? Vitaly?

Of course he beats Cobb and Wepner but do you think he can knock out Cobb who was only stopped once or Wepner?

Cobb and Quarry would beat each up other up for twelve or fifteen rounds though I think Quarry would be doing most of the beating...

Cobb and Quarry would be an ugly un-ending fight.

Cooney was a bigger man than Lyle, and I think he had
better power. Quarry was exceptional against Lyle. A great
win and a great fight.

Robinson wrote:Cobb and Quarry would be an ugly un-ending fight.

Cooney was a bigger man than Lyle, and I think he had
better power. Quarry was exceptional against Lyle. A great
win and a great fight.

I can see Cobb, bruised and battered, saying to Quarry "you didn't knock me down, Jerry."

And Quarry loading up on some nasty shots that thump into
Cobb. Cobb with his anvil skull and awkward style and hefty
frame returns fire, having his moments.

Quarry is the clear winner come the end.

Robinson wrote:And Quarry loading up on some nasty shots that thump into
Cobb. Cobb with his anvil skull and awkward style and hefty
frame returns fire, having his moments.

Quarry is the clear winner come the end.

SI hired a team of neurologists to do a study in 1980 I believe on three fighters who agreed to a neurological exam ; Tex Cobb, Jerry Quarry, and a third fighter whose name I forgot...Quarry did the worst...Cobb was showing some minor neurological deficits even back then:

http://vault.sportsillustrated.cnn.com/ ... /index.htm

But I read he got a college degree in 2007 so who knows...

I believe if you did brain scans on most boxers who had a lot of fights you would see damage... But there is a difference between having damage that is apparent on a scan and damage that affects your performance to where people would notice..

Robinson wrote:I think Cooney wins this one. I prefer Quarry as a fighter,
but I think that Cooney has the power and left hyook to
punish Quarry. Quarry makes a fight of it, as he always does,
but he is TKO'd mid wya through the fight.

But many here rate Quarry as the best never to win a belt..
so its hard to go against that sacred title.

What evidence is there to suggest Cooney could even win a two-sided fight?

Quarry won plenty of fierce fights against top opponents.

dempseyfire wrote:One you are really over-rating size here. A peak Ron Lyle hit as hard as a prime Cooney and had better overall skills and Quarry schooled him. Quarry had an iron jaw which withstood round after round of bombs from Norton, Frazier, Lyle, Foster, Ali etc. without going down, he's not going to be vulnerable to getting bombed out in the first 2 rounds. Quarry was quicker, had much better skills, a much stronger chin and superior stamina. By the 7th Cooney is tasting canvas. Quarry loses 3 rounds tops.

Finally, someone who comes across as if they have actually seen both men fight.

A lot of nonsense in this thread. Ingo knocking out Jerry Quarry? Joe Bugner, the most reluctant boxer ever, beating a true tough as nails guy like Quarry? Jesus christ.

overhand_right wrote:

dempseyfire wrote:One you are really over-rating size here. A peak Ron Lyle hit as hard as a prime Cooney and had better overall skills and Quarry schooled him. Quarry had an iron jaw which withstood round after round of bombs from Norton, Frazier, Lyle, Foster, Ali etc. without going down, he's not going to be vulnerable to getting bombed out in the first 2 rounds. Quarry was quicker, had much better skills, a much stronger chin and superior stamina. By the 7th Cooney is tasting canvas. Quarry loses 3 rounds tops.

Finally, someone who comes across as if they have actually seen both men fight.

A lot of nonsense in this thread. Ingo knocking out Jerry Quarry? Joe Bugner, the most reluctant boxer ever, beating a true tough as nails guy like Quarry? Jesus christ.

Not a fan of Joe Bugner I take it...His fights with Ali were some of the most boring fights I have ever seen but he was able to hang with Ali (and) Frazier for the entire thirty nine rounds...

Yes he had a freakish chin combined with a tight defence, very hard to stop... Not hard for someone the quality & toughness of Jery Quarry to put him back in his shell and walk a points decision.