thehero55 wrote:Are their any examples of mediocre cubfighter types, who worked with top trainers big name trainers? Someone asked me if it eer happens about it at work, and I had no examples. Gil Clancy worked with Forest Ward who ended up something like 10-3, but he was considered a top prospect at one time.
There's some interesting information about Ward in this interview:
ZL: Forest Ward was a good-looking prospect at the time, right?
Gil Clancy: Probably the best prospect as far as making money that I ever had. Teddy Brenner told me—later in Ward’s career—‘He’s on drugs.’ I said to him, ‘You’re out of your mind. He’s the nicest, cleanest kid I ever met in my life.’ And then we were supposed to fight Chuck Wepner six rounds. Teddy Brenner says, ‘Look, we want to make it an eight.’ I said, ‘I don’t want this kid to fight eight rounds yet.’ He says, ‘Why? He’s gonna knock Wepner out in two or three rounds anyway, you know.’ I said, ‘Okay.’ P.S. Wepner stopped him. By that time he was on drugs, which I didn’t know.
ZL: What kind of drugs? Do you know?
GC: I don’t know…he was a druggie, though.
ZL: I had heard that Ward had a fragile psyche, and when he kept hitting Wepner and Wepner wouldn’t go, he kind of cracked…
GC: (cutting in) Wepner won the fight, took everything Forest had to offer.
http://www.fightbeat.com/judgejake/clancy.htm