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Re: What does this mean for PPV int he future? Every Khan fight?

Posted: 27 Aug 2008, 10:39
by JamesH
Warren said its not every Khan fight but..........

Re: What does this mean for PPV int he future? Every Khan fight?

Posted: 27 Aug 2008, 10:48
by BigEars
I doubt all Khan fights will be ppv, I'm guessing this will be a pretty big failure and they really should of hyped the Scotland(Arthur) v England(Cook) 'World title' fight to try and help sell it. But it seems they've gone with this 'Khan joins the legends' angle which is trying to sell off Khan and Khan alone with little mention of opponent.

SKY have always had adds between rounds for their ppv's, there was nothing new about that. There will be adds for this too I bet.

Re: What does this mean for PPV int he future? Every Khan fight?

Posted: 27 Aug 2008, 11:19
by Punchy Joe
I can see Khan fighting duck eggs on PPV for the next 2-3 years, the under cards will feature the rest of Warrens big names.
Sky and Warren are banking(no irony intended) On Khan already being a household name, its being sold as an event - in a kind of wool over the eyes way to the masses.
It might make Warren and sky money in the short term, but its bad for boxing because it marginalises the sport in the long run.
its all very worrying..........

Re: What does this mean for PPV int he future? Every Khan fight?

Posted: 27 Aug 2008, 12:03
by sweetscience
Punchy Joe wrote:I can see Khan fighting duck eggs on PPV for the next 2-3 years, the under cards will feature the rest of Warrens big names.
Sky and Warren are banking(no irony intended) On Khan already being a household name, its being sold as an event - in a kind of wool over the eyes way to the masses.
It might make Warren and sky money in the short term, but its bad for boxing because it marginalises the sport in the long run.
its all very worrying..........
IM NOT BUYING THIS BY THE WAY

however, i cannot see this PPV bombing like you all think, i dont no the figures but i reckon it will outsell Hatton v Mauusa/Urganotang type cards & shite like WWE Royal Rumble which are all repeatedly sold on PPV

Re: What does this mean for PPV int he future? Every Khan fight?

Posted: 27 Aug 2008, 12:09
by Khaosai-Galaxy
search wrote:Will every Khan fight be on PPV in the future?
I have no idea
Will Degale now be PPV because of his gold medal?
ummmm, no
What will happen?
oooh, tough question...

I think Brown may turn things round in time for the next election and the price of oil will drop below $100 a barrel this year.

As for flying cars?

I dont think we will see them in our lifetime
Obviously every Khan fight from now on is going to be PPV.
oh right.. thats ummmm "interesting news"

Re: What does this mean for PPV int he future? Every Khan fight?

Posted: 27 Aug 2008, 12:31
by Deserter
sweetscience wrote:
Punchy Joe wrote:I can see Khan fighting duck eggs on PPV for the next 2-3 years, the under cards will feature the rest of Warrens big names.
Sky and Warren are banking(no irony intended) On Khan already being a household name, its being sold as an event - in a kind of wool over the eyes way to the masses.
It might make Warren and sky money in the short term, but its bad for boxing because it marginalises the sport in the long run.
its all very worrying..........
IM NOT BUYING THIS BY THE WAY

however, i cannot see this PPV bombing like you all think, i dont no the figures but i reckon it will outsell Hatton v Mauusa/Urganotang type cards & shite like WWE Royal Rumble which are all repeatedly sold on PPV
I honestly don't think it will as I just can't see how Khan has a fanbase remotely approaching Hatton's. Does anyone know how well his shows have sold in terms of attendance as I'm sure I read somewhere that a couple have struggled to shift tickets - if that is the case it tells you something...

Re: What does this mean for PPV int he future? Every Khan fight?

Posted: 27 Aug 2008, 14:18
by sweetscience
Deserter wrote:
sweetscience wrote:
Punchy Joe wrote:I can see Khan fighting duck eggs on PPV for the next 2-3 years, the under cards will feature the rest of Warrens big names.
Sky and Warren are banking(no irony intended) On Khan already being a household name, its being sold as an event - in a kind of wool over the eyes way to the masses.
It might make Warren and sky money in the short term, but its bad for boxing because it marginalises the sport in the long run.
its all very worrying..........
IM NOT BUYING THIS BY THE WAY

however, i cannot see this PPV bombing like you all think, i dont no the figures but i reckon it will outsell Hatton v Mauusa/Urganotang type cards & shite like WWE Royal Rumble which are all repeatedly sold on PPV
I honestly don't think it will as I just can't see how Khan has a fanbase remotely approaching Hatton's. Does anyone know how well his shows have sold in terms of attendance as I'm sure I read somewhere that a couple have struggled to shift tickets - if that is the case it tells you something...
i dont think you can go off just attendance, my gran who is 80 has watches Khan and has never heard of Hatton, she doesnt go watchin either at the arena, the money is in Arm chair fans, not football hooli wannabees

sky aint daft they would have put this on boxoffice without some serious market research

Re: What does this mean for PPV int he future? Every Khan fight?

Posted: 27 Aug 2008, 15:26
by BigEars
search wrote:
BigEars wrote:I doubt all Khan fights will be ppv, I'm guessing this will be a pretty big failure and they really should of hyped the Scotland(Arthur) v England(Cook) 'World title' fight to try and help sell it. But it seems they've gone with this 'Khan joins the legends' angle which is trying to sell off Khan and Khan alone with little mention of opponent.

SKY have always had adds between rounds for their ppv's, there was nothing new about that. There will be adds for this too I bet.
I have almost EVERY PPV from 1996 (the second Tyson Holy fight).

NO adds were in between the rounds of the main events until Hatton Mayweather in 2008 I believe. NO ADDS AT ALL, do you watch boxing?
No.





















Seriously though, I don't normally waste money on ppv(why would you ?) so the last one I ordered before Hatton v Mayweather was Hatton v Tszyu and before that Tyson v Lewis. However I seem to remember there being adds during the Hatton-Tszyu fight. Suppose I could be wrong.



You actually paid for Hatton v Haussa and Hatton v Collazo ?, :lol:

Re: What does this mean for PPV int he future? Every Khan fight?

Posted: 27 Aug 2008, 15:31
by Grilling Machine
Supposing Khan gets knocked-out on one of these PPV jaunts? I'm sure there'd be a lot of disappointed non-viewers in such an event.

Re: What does this mean for PPV int he future? Every Khan fight?

Posted: 27 Aug 2008, 15:48
by Deserter
sweetscience wrote:i dont think you can go off just attendance, my gran who is 80 has watches Khan and has never heard of Hatton, she doesnt go watchin either at the arena, the money is in Arm chair fans, not football hooli wannabees

sky aint daft they would have put this on boxoffice without some serious market research
Of course you can't go purely off attendance, but it's still one highly quantifiable measure of a fighter's popularity that you'd use when you're trying to gauge the appetite for this sort of thing.
As for Sky, of course they will have conducted market research, but as anyone in this field will tell you, it's not an exact science. The whole point of PPV is that it potentially alienates 'armchair fans' like your nan who would have been happy to watch him on free-to-air, but don't feel passionate enough about him to shell out £15.
I also think it's a gross error to assume Hatton's popularity lies purely in the 'football hooli wannabees' - his unparallleled success is down to a personna that the average man in the street feels he can relate to. Khan will never be able to replicate this.

Re: What does this mean for PPV int he future? Every Khan fight?

Posted: 27 Aug 2008, 16:11
by funso banjo baby
Terry D wrote:We let the cat out of the bag years ago by paying for the first PPV's. They have now cut down the bills, added adverts and generally rode out arses like pros.

We are to blame for being, collectively, mugs.
true say

we are to blame for the alphabet baubles as well

if u dont pay to watch khan Warren will give in...supply and demand


be strong people

For fistic freedom :box:

Re: What does this mean for PPV int he future? Every Khan fight?

Posted: 31 Aug 2008, 12:19
by Bard of Boxrec
you guys are mugs, just watch it on stream. Get the popcorn in, hopefully Khan gets knocked out, then we get to see Frank's expression for free. Everyone wins!

Re: What does this mean for PPV int he future? Every Khan fight?

Posted: 31 Aug 2008, 12:29
by banjo
Riddick Blowe wrote:you guys are mugs
I agree, whinging like old women won't get them anywhere, if they don't want to pay £15 to watch it then don't, I'm not buying it especially when it's on BBC within a week.

Re: What does this mean for PPV int he future? Every Khan fight?

Posted: 31 Aug 2008, 13:39
by Kilburn
I hardly think anyone coming on here complaining about the PPV is going to cough up the £15 next week... :roll:

FW sky sports deal question.

Posted: 31 Aug 2008, 17:25
by emma
As franks signed a contract with sky sports will all his bills be on ppv? surely not.

Re: FW sky sports deal question.

Posted: 31 Aug 2008, 18:27
by WildWaylon
Hope not Emma, I wont buy them, but as a friend said to me "will thousands of Asians buy the Khan fight"?

Re: FW sky sports deal question.

Posted: 01 Sep 2008, 08:14
by dondada
No.

Re: FW sky sports deal question.

Posted: 01 Sep 2008, 08:18
by MR UNTOUCHABLE
No no and thrice NO!

Re: FW sky sports deal question.

Posted: 01 Sep 2008, 09:16
by gkt999
emma wrote:As franks signed a contract with sky sports will all his bills be on ppv? surely not.

Not all Franks fights just all of Khan's fights.

Re: FW sky sports deal question.

Posted: 01 Sep 2008, 17:32
by emma
Gareth wrote:
emma wrote:As franks signed a contract with sky sports will all his bills be on ppv? surely not.

Not all Franks fights just all of Khan's fights.


so what will the mcintyre-brook be on?

Re: FW sky sports deal question.

Posted: 02 Sep 2008, 16:56
by gkt999
emma wrote:
Gareth wrote:
emma wrote:As franks signed a contract with sky sports will all his bills be on ppv? surely not.

Not all Franks fights just all of Khan's fights.


so what will the mcintyre-brook be on?
No Idea, possibly on a TV :lol: nah couldn't tell you, but I still reckon Frank will try to keep Khan as PPV from here on in, I can;'t get over the number of people paying for it, my Dad doesnt have sky and wants to come here to watch it, when I told him I wasnt paying for it he said I'll pay sure (and he is tight with his cash) £15 on Khan, I laughed and offered to DL and deliver the next morning but he is insistant he wants to watch it live and will pay. Feckin Knutts

Re: What does this mean for PPV int he future? Every Khan fight?

Posted: 05 Sep 2008, 15:31
by wba
If any 1 person wants to watch the fight via slingbox,please feel free to contact me [email protected] :D

Re: What does this mean for PPV int he future? Every Khan fight?

Posted: 05 Sep 2008, 18:01
by DG.
Riddick Blowe wrote:you guys are mugs, just watch it on stream. Get the popcorn in, hopefully Khan gets knocked out, then we get to see Frank's expression for free. Everyone wins!

Post it up!


:D