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although he didn't knock cliff couser out in rd 1, i think he was quite impressive in his first real test. i know he did a few things wrong but he showed he had heart and that he could take a good punch too. sure couser is not in the top 10 heavies in the world but i believe the 2 main things that he exposed about haumono were his fitness and his need to follow his corners instructions. but i think they are things he should be able to fix in future. his problem going into this fight was the low level of opposition he had fought and it didn't have him ready properly i don't believe.

he learnt more from this fight than all his other fights put together. he may not become world champ but if he can have another 6-10 fights against similar opposistion and be successful then he may test some of the top heavyweights.

buster007 wrote:although he didn't knock cliff couser out in rd 1, i think he was quite impressive in his first real test. i know he did a few things wrong but he showed he had heart and that he could take a good punch too. sure couser is not in the top 10 heavies in the world but i believe the 2 main things that he exposed about haumono were his fitness and his need to follow his corners instructions. but i think they are things he should be able to fix in future. his problem going into this fight was the low level of opposition he had fought and it didn't have him ready properly i don't believe.

he learnt more from this fight than all his other fights put together. he may not become world champ but if he can have another 6-10 fights against similar opposistion and be successful then he may test some of the top heavyweights.

couser should never have tested solo this much...solo got pushed to the limits by a journeyman boxer notorious for getting KO'd in spectacular fashion by most men he fights.

solo should have dropped this bum within 2-3 rounds...instead he almost got himself KO'd in the 5th round.

horrible result for solo.

i just think this was the fight he has needed for a couple of years and he will improve and learn heaps from it. he was only a bees dick from winning by ko in rd1 and although he didn't finish him off when he should have i think he learnt the hard way of what not to do.

This fight has raised serious questions about his conditioning.

Terrible to say the least. Even Butterbeam lasts longer.

buster007 wrote:i just think this was the fight he has needed for a couple of years and he will improve and learn heaps from it. he was only a bees dick from winning by ko in rd1 and although he didn't finish him off when he should have i think he learnt the hard way of what not to do.

This fight will do him the world of good, He was tired and got hit with some big shots. His chin held up well. He was gassed as he hadnt fought for a long time and also had the flu. If he gets another fight within 8-12 weeks he will be much better for it. I hope they can line up another overseas opponent or maybe Leapi, Welliver or the winner of Wilson/Briggs would be good if he fights again soon.

not a good result....thats about his level it seems


so avoid Big BOB

funso banjo baby wrote:not a good result....thats about his level it seems


so avoid Big BOB

Maybe you should watch the fight instead of coming on here talking shit . He had Couser in huge trouble early but didnt go in for the kill so to speak. He has been fed to many easy beats and thought Couser would be the same. Couser then used spoiling tactics to get through the rounds. He landed a few good shots in the 5th that Haumono took well. Haumono was gassed in the middle rounds andwill be far better for the rounds.

Isn't it marvelous? All those people who were going on about how Couser would be too good for any Australian heavy suddenly reckon Cliff is shit. No pleasing some people.

Brute wrote:Isn't it marvelous? All those people who were going on about how Couser would be too good for any Australian heavy suddenly reckon Cliff is shit. No pleasing some people.

Couser had 7 days to get ready for this fight, If he had 6 weeks he probably would have beaten Solo in the middle rounds.

its not rocket science....its simple..

solo got fed proper bums with glass jaws no experience...he built himself an impressive record fighting these bums.....the minute he fights someone slightly above "proper bum" (therefore just a normal bum, ie couser) all his flaws get exposed in spectacular fashion.

i promise u this - solomon will never win a world title.

u think danny williams looked atrocious against klitschko?...imagine what solo would look lke against klitschko...he wold get embarressed BIG TIME....id love to see solo v tua...i hope they have paramedics at the ready with the stretcher.

anyone who disagrees and thinks solo has potential as a world title holder is kidding themselves.

ben k wrote:

funso banjo baby wrote:not a good result....thats about his level it seems


so avoid Big BOB

Maybe you should watch the fight instead of coming on here talking shit . He had Couser in huge trouble early but didnt go in for the kill so to speak. He has been fed to many easy beats and thought Couser would be the same. Couser then used spoiling tactics to get through the rounds. He landed a few good shots in the 5th that Haumono took well. Haumono was gassed in the middle rounds andwill be far better for the rounds.

its very easy following results on boxrec to gauge how 'prospects' are going to progress..especially ones with padded Ko records....

let me explain

John Poore 14-0 (14) gets rocked by the hapless Willy Perryman....that suggests his level...low and behold hes duly stopped by Robert Hawkins in his first step up.

Dennis boytsov 20-0 (20) cant stop hawkins either ....yardstick

David Rodriquez 19-0 (19) fails to knock out Turlington...thats the yardstick

Johnny White another unbeaten all KO's goes the distance in his first step up against Couser... (despite even calloway stopping couser early)

ets etc

not suggesting going the distance is a negative thing

im just suggesting that Cliff couser is a fighter who will go down if hes in trouble....

therefore Soloman is not a red hot prospect with dynamite in both fists...hes just an overhyped lug who will stuggle with anything better than a couser.

howver a fight with Hopoate is realistic

If Couser was abit younger and fitter he probably would of finnished Solo off in round 5 when he hurt him

Cliff said to me "I wish i could have trained for this fight" after the 5th Round, he didnt have the gas in the tank to get his shots off. We wanted to fight Solo on the inside make it a war, drag him into the trenches and it paid of for us, Solo won the fight he landed more and threw more punches but Cliff was never going to walk away with a decision. Cliff was happy with his performance and wants a rematch. Failing that Hoppa

N2 Shape wrote:Cliff said to me "I wish i could have trained for this fight" after the 5th Round, he didnt have the gas in the tank to get his shots off. We wanted to fight Solo on the inside make it a war, drag him into the trenches and it paid of for us, Solo won the fight he landed more and threw more punches but Cliff was never going to walk away with a decision. Cliff was happy with his performance and wants a rematch. Failing that Hoppa

I think Cliff can win the rematch.

Ultimateboxa2 wrote:

N2 Shape wrote:Cliff said to me "I wish i could have trained for this fight" after the 5th Round, he didnt have the gas in the tank to get his shots off. We wanted to fight Solo on the inside make it a war, drag him into the trenches and it paid of for us, Solo won the fight he landed more and threw more punches but Cliff was never going to walk away with a decision. Cliff was happy with his performance and wants a rematch. Failing that Hoppa

I think Cliff can win the rematch.

You are Kidding, if Solo is serious about boxing he'll train properly before his next fight, couser wont last 2 rounds. And i personally believe Solo wanted to go the distance, and has found out his one flaw (Stamina).
He's better of for the fight, more regular opponents at a higher level than Couser, then we'll learn more of where solo is going.

Brute wrote:Isn't it marvelous? All those people who were going on about how Couser would be too good for any Australian heavy suddenly reckon Cliff is shit. No pleasing some people.

I think the line wasn't that Couser would necessarily BEAT your top guys, but that he was a whole level above the usual record-padding oppo from the islands. And that proved to be the case.

ben k wrote:

Brute wrote:Isn't it marvelous? All those people who were going on about how Couser would be too good for any Australian heavy suddenly reckon Cliff is shit. No pleasing some people.

Couser had 7 days to get ready for this fight, If he had 6 weeks he probably would have beaten Solo in the middle rounds.

And so Funso Banjo is "talking shit" for suggesting Solo's found his level, but by your own admission he wouldn't have beaten a better-prepared Couser? Huh?

adamheight wrote:i promise u this - solomon will never win a world title.

Nostradamus in the house!

Hounddog wrote:And i personally believe Solo wanted to go the distance

If that were true, he should have picked a durable journeyman for the job, something like when Audley Harrison fought Julius Francis. As it is, no matter how you slice it, failing to KO Couser does not suggest he has promise.

As for other points, I'm not sure a better-prepared Couser could win a rematch, but I'm sure he could beat Hoppa.

What's up your nose oliver?

oliverfennell wrote:

ben k wrote:

Brute wrote:Isn't it marvelous? All those people who were going on about how Couser would be too good for any Australian heavy suddenly reckon Cliff is shit. No pleasing some people.

Couser had 7 days to get ready for this fight, If he had 6 weeks he probably would have beaten Solo in the middle rounds.

And so Funso Banjo is "talking shit" for suggesting Solo's found his level, but by your own admission he wouldn't have beaten a better-prepared Couser? Huh?

Solo is still learning, Couser did enough to survive and could have beaten this version of Solo in the 5th. If Solo trains hard for a rematch he should win easily, If he comes in again like Wednesday night and Couser has trained hard he will get beaten.
Solo needed a fight like this and will be far better for it.

My friend told me Solo is doing the same as what he use to do playing league. Hes really lazy. To lazy to be successful in the sport. He needs a complete attitude overhaul. But obviously he doesn't train hard, and we could see that on wednesday night!

I think we can forget about Solo, as a world HW contender. I think he will struggle to win an Australian title.

Marlin wrote:What's up your nose oliver?

Nothing, just saw a few things to comment on as I went through the thread. Good luck to Solo and all, but this is not a good result for him.

Ben K, thanks for clarifying your point - it makes perfect sense now! Of course it was a good learning fight, and let's hope Solo does LEARN that he needs more conditioning. Still, though, struggling with the 2008 Couser does suggest a certain level, regardless of fitness. Above a certain level, fitness isn't even an issue vs Couser.

Yes, that wasn't a good show for solo... He's stamina showed him up big time!!! Im not making excuse's for him but, he may have been legitimately crook prior to the fight. You gotta give credit where credit's due and couser can take a punch/s, despite the fact that he's been ko'd a few time's before. Mindset is a powerful tool and when solo's gone in there setting he's goal's to go the eight round's and achieve's it, your as happy with that result as you would be with a ko. At the end of the day, solo won the fight convincingly but, boy oh boy it nearly backfired on him in the fifth round. Luckily his chin held up (another positive to come out of it).
Re: Rematch. Im certain it won't last 2 rounds... solo win by ko rnd 2.

If you need to have a rematch with Cliff Couser. I think its time that people should give up on Solo, to achieve anything at a HW.

Hes lazy. Well at least his conditioning showed that. Which was terrible.