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Frankly Speaking

Posted: 31 Aug 2008, 18:06
by fatton
http://www.allegedly.tv/drill/News/Ar ... aking.html

"If two British boxers had been fighting at the same time in the two rings, there wouldn't have been enough trainers to go round -a ridiculous situation."

Shows how much attention he was paying to the Olympics, at no point was there 2 rings used.

Re: Frankly Speaking

Posted: 01 Sep 2008, 07:02
by coneye
fatton wrote:http://www.allegedly.tv/drill/News/Ar ... aking.html

"If two British boxers had been fighting at the same time in the two rings, there wouldn't have been enough trainers to go round -a ridiculous situation."

Shows how much attention he was paying to the Olympics, at no point was there 2 rings used.

He never said THERE WAS two rings used he said IF THERE WAS . But between the lines he is letting Jason know he needs to be guided carefully ala guess who :) :)

Re: Frankly Speaking

Posted: 01 Sep 2008, 08:15
by DavidPayne
coneye - you need to read it again.

Re: Frankly Speaking

Posted: 01 Sep 2008, 08:18
by Wales
coneye wrote:
He never said THERE WAS two rings used he said IF THERE WAS .
No no he said

"If two British boxers had been fighting at the same time in the two rings, there wouldn't have been enough trainers to go round -a ridiculous situation."

Re: Frankly Speaking

Posted: 01 Sep 2008, 08:28
by SticknMove
I think this Jason fella needs careful guiding because without his Argonauts his fate will fall into the lap of the Gods. 8) :TU:

Re: Frankly Speaking

Posted: 01 Sep 2008, 09:03
by DavidPayne
Oooh, zeuss you sir!

Re: Frankly Speaking

Posted: 01 Sep 2008, 09:07
by don't call it a comeback
"I can't see the point of him hanging around until London when he could be a professional world champion by then."

Yeh right - more likely to be fighting the World no 170 on a Sky ppv for the WTF intercontintental belt.

Re: Frankly Speaking

Posted: 01 Sep 2008, 10:16
by Bard of Boxrec
he should pull out all the Cyclops in a Herculean effort, but it may be a case of man against Troy.

Re: Frankly Speaking

Posted: 01 Sep 2008, 10:24
by DavidPayne
His lack of power could prove to be his Achilles heel.

Re: Frankly Speaking

Posted: 01 Sep 2008, 10:35
by steve689
Errr...sorry to interrupt :P

allegedly interview in tomorrow's Guardian. I expect Rawling will do it and let's hope he quizzes Frank on the PPV situation.

Re: Frankly Speaking

Posted: 01 Sep 2008, 10:46
by SticknMove
Yeah it could be Titanic interview - the stuff of legend.

Khan's PPV = 'Golden Fleece'?

Re: Frankly Speaking

Posted: 01 Sep 2008, 11:33
by fatton
Yes I'm sure he will be quizzed alright.

So Frank was your idea to put Khan V 2 Jabs on PPV an act of:

a) genius
b) generosity to mankind
c) all of the above

I can see Frank sweating over the tough, searching questions now.

Re: Frankly Speaking

Posted: 01 Sep 2008, 12:57
by hitman_hatton1
steve689 wrote:Errr...sorry to interrupt :P

allegedly allegedly interview in tomorrow's Guardian. I expect Rawling will do it and let's hope he quizzes Frank on the PPV situation.
yeah i remember him saying the same about khan.

where's the world title frank?

he's not even got the wbu for amir. :oops:

Re: Frankly Speaking

Posted: 01 Sep 2008, 15:14
by mrbassie
hitman_hatton1 wrote: where's the world title frank?

he's not even got the wbu for amir. :oops:
Plenty of time for that, after all, you can't go any higher than wbu. He's his whole career yet to reach that pinnacle!

Expect Rawling's questions to Allegedly couldn't get any cheesier if he carved them into GORGON-zola. (best I could do, [sorry])

Warren on PPV, Olympic boxers and Calzaghe

Posted: 02 Sep 2008, 04:23
by Old bones Ian

Re: Warren on PPV, Olympic boxers and Calzaghe

Posted: 02 Sep 2008, 05:03
by Poncey
That might just be the best Warren interview I've ever read. A little one-sided, but very good.

Re: Warren on PPV, Olympic boxers and Calzaghe

Posted: 02 Sep 2008, 05:25
by Deserter
Made interesting reading and the Naz anecdote at the end made for a cracking 'pay-off'. However, it's hard to feel sorry for Frank re. Calzaghe as he wouldn't hesitate to end an association with a boxer if he felt it was a poor relationship from a commercial perspective - I can't recall Frank sustaining a commercial relationship with a boxer who could no longer generate revenue for him purely out of sentiment.

Re: Warren on PPV, Olympic boxers and Calzaghe

Posted: 02 Sep 2008, 05:28
by Chambers2
Yeah that's an excellent read!

Re: Warren on PPV, Olympic boxers and Calzaghe

Posted: 02 Sep 2008, 06:30
by MightyWarrior
Yes that's a really excellent interview by McRae, one of the best boxing writers in the biz. Frank actualy comes over well, the Naz bit says a lot.
And it's true you don't really hear a lot of fighters talking about how Frank screwed them over, unlike King and co, and maybe there's a lot of truth to that. He gets a lot of flak on here, but it comes with the territory I guess.

So he was really forced into this Khan PPV gamble by the sounds of it, in order to meet King Khan's purse demands. It was either that, or goodbye Amir. I wonder if he'll hit those figures, and I wonder if there's a clause in the contract, in case Amir gets sparked.
No way his comeback is PPV, if he does get flattened...

Re: Warren on PPV, Olympic boxers and Calzaghe

Posted: 02 Sep 2008, 06:45
by Twinkle Toes
Mr Warren should do more interviews of this nature, it helps us as fans understand the man and his situations a lot more.

Mind you, Khan on PVP is still a total fleecing.

Where exactly would he have gone if Warren couldn't have matched his demands?

I doubt it would have been to another UK promoter, and the Americans certainly wouldn't match him as safely as Frank has. Can't help but feel it's a little bit of a desperate move by Warren, that we as boxing fans are having to pay for.

Re: Warren on PPV, Olympic boxers and Calzaghe

Posted: 02 Sep 2008, 07:01
by Asterix
Twinkle Toes wrote:Mr Warren should do more interviews of this nature, it helps us as fans understand the man and his situations a lot more.

Mind you, Khan on PVP is still a total fleecing.

Where exactly would he have gone if Warren couldn't have matched his demands?

I doubt it would have been to another UK promoter, and the Americans certainly wouldn't match him as safely as Frank has. Can't help but feel it's a little bit of a desperate move by Warren, that we as boxing fans are having to pay for.
I wouldn't take Warren's word for gospel truth. He's a very wily character and he knows all of what you're saying. :wink:

Re: Warren on PPV, Olympic boxers and Calzaghe

Posted: 02 Sep 2008, 07:17
by stujones
Anyone spot the contradiction?

Said only Billy Joe was the only member of team GB he spoke to before the games.... but a few paragraphs before said he was speaking to Gavin and telling him to see the Doctor and Coach about his weight issues.

Re: Warren on PPV, Olympic boxers and Calzaghe

Posted: 02 Sep 2008, 07:32
by stujones
Terry D wrote:He meant spoke to about a future contract, no contradiction.
Not how I read it.

On Billy Joe Sanders "He was the only fighter I spoke to before the Games and that was because he approached me."

On Gavin "Frankie Gavin is also a good fighter and he rang me up when he was out there, asking my advice about the weight. I said, 'You've got to go and see the team doctor and [coach] Terry Edwards because you've got a problem.' It's pretty crazy that he couldn't make the weight.

Gavin was out there and out of the Olympics BEFORE the games started. It is pretty clear that this conversation took place before any boxing begun.

Edit: Sorry Terry, can now see your point - although it doesn't say why he spoke to Sanders.

Re: Warren on PPV, Olympic boxers and Calzaghe

Posted: 02 Sep 2008, 07:33
by Deserter
Terry D wrote:He meant spoke to about a future contract, no contradiction.
So a professional promoter was speaking to our leading amateur purely as an altruistic gesture? :lol:

Re: Warren on PPV, Olympic boxers and Calzaghe

Posted: 02 Sep 2008, 07:44
by stujones
The thing that actual "concerns" me somewhat about the article is what happens if Khan's fight doesn't make the buy rate to make this fight profitable. It sounds like, given the contract that has been signed, that all Khan fights need to be on PPV.

So will that then mean 1) Either rushing Khan into big fights in the hope they will get the figures 2) Getting an "undercard" that will really wet the TV audience appetite but at the same time probably taking longer to organise (and therefore Khan will become increasingly less active).

Even if Khan does a number on the Columbian... the promotion, or lack of it from Sky, could have a massively damaging affect on Khan's future. Although you could save, serve the bugger right for being greedy in the first place.