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Are We Over Reacting?

Posted: 07 Sep 2008, 13:54
by MR UNTOUCHABLE
Let's just STOP.... for a minute.

Are we saying ABSOLUTELY that there is no way back for Amer?

He hasn't just been caught cold in the 1st (lets face it, it happens)?

He showed big heart to get up (1st KD) and try on the 2nd!

Is he too big to make Lightweight and be healthy and Strong?

Are we sure?

Re: Are We Over Reacting?

Posted: 07 Sep 2008, 13:59
by Goz
No we aren't over-reacting.

Next question! :D

Re: Are We Over Reacting?

Posted: 07 Sep 2008, 14:01
by jamesmcdonnell
Never say never, but he's got a serious gradient to overcome.

Amirs legs buckled when Prescott hit him with jab for christ's sake.

All the signs are there clear as day that Khan simply does not hold a shot. The left hook which put him down was a real monster of a shot, and Prescott can punch, but Amirs legs were stiffened by the jab that came a few second before, and he has been put on queer street by Limond.

Khan will have to adopt a very safety first style to succeed, and I'm just not sure that will suit his persona.

Re: Are We Over Reacting?

Posted: 07 Sep 2008, 14:12
by hitman_hatton1
it was more the manner of it wasn't it.

the jab started it all off ffs. :o

and then he got completely wiped out.

this wasn't a guy with a proven good chin who just got unlucky.

e.g. kalambay getting chinned by nunn.

Re: Are We Over Reacting?

Posted: 07 Sep 2008, 14:31
by charlieb
Yeah, it wasn't as though it was a single 'lucky' shot that caught him just right.

That was an even more complete destruction than Jaidon Codrington's 17 second blitzing, at least in that fight you could pinpoint the shot that put him on queer street. Prescott just beat him at everything thrown for as long as it lasted, When he had him nailed he finished the job in style.

It's not as though his career's over for sure, but he'll never have credibility in the sport until he beats a good fighter or at least impresses in defeat.

I've been a fan and I've made a lot of excuses for him but that's it for me, I cant see him fulfilling anything close to the promise he once showed.

Re: Are We Over Reacting?

Posted: 07 Sep 2008, 14:47
by Asterix
MR UNTOUCHABLE wrote:Let's just STOP.... for a minute.

Are we saying ABSOLUTELY that there is no way back for Amer?

He hasn't just been caught cold in the 1st (lets face it, it happens)?

He showed big heart to get up (1st KD) and try on the 2nd!

Is he too big to make Lightweight and be healthy and Strong?

Are we sure?
1. There is a way back. Winning.
2. He wasn't just caught cold. He was wobbled by a jab.
3. Not sure. It would be great to blame his chin on weight draining, but that would probably be clutching at straws.

Re: Are We Over Reacting?

Posted: 07 Sep 2008, 15:36
by MR UNTOUCHABLE
I have to agree!

It's a long way back for him now.
His family / trainer should let his promoter / matchmaker get on with their jobs!


Same old story it looks like to some!

Re: Are We Over Reacting?

Posted: 07 Sep 2008, 15:52
by charlieb
A little will depend on what Precott can do from here.

If he beats other good fighters then it'll be easier to look at this as bad matchmaking.

Re: Are We Over Reacting?

Posted: 07 Sep 2008, 15:55
by Gray-Fox
Over-reacting?

LMAO, the man got chinned in the first round. No decent fighter gets CAUGHT in the first round by a no name opponent, never mind KO'd clean.

Re: Are We Over Reacting?

Posted: 07 Sep 2008, 16:49
by Grilling Machine
charlieb wrote:That was an even more complete destruction than Jaidon Codrington's 17 second blitzing, at least in that fight you could pinpoint the shot that put him on queer street.
Will there be an Amir Khan's Punch-Out!!?

Re: Are We Over Reacting?

Posted: 08 Sep 2008, 05:07
by twenty six
Mr U,
Are you sure you're not in love with Wazza / SN ?
Let him get on with is job ?
If he'd done it right in the first place ........
Also, he has accepted responsibility.
Let's see if he has the audacity to put 06-12-08 on PPV.

Re: Are We Over Reacting?

Posted: 08 Sep 2008, 05:32
by Phenomenal-Nutrition
jamesmcdonnell wrote:Never say never, but he's got a serious gradient to overcome.

Amirs legs buckled when Prescott hit him with jab for christ's sake.

All the signs are there clear as day that Khan simply does not hold a shot. The left hook which put him down was a real monster of a shot, and Prescott can punch, but Amirs legs were stiffened by the jab that came a few second before, and he has been put on queer street by Limond.

Khan will have to adopt a very safety first style to succeed, and I'm just not sure that will suit his persona.
No they weren't buckled by a jab it was a wide long counter hook, not a jab

Re: Are We Over Reacting?

Posted: 08 Sep 2008, 05:32
by MR UNTOUCHABLE
26, please stop being so TEDIOUS!

NO I'm not in llove with SN, it was just a thought.

The only way the December fight could be PPV is if it's a rematch with Prescott.

I just cannot see ANY other way they could get away with it!

Re: Are We Over Reacting?

Posted: 08 Sep 2008, 05:39
by Asterix
Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:Never say never, but he's got a serious gradient to overcome.

Amirs legs buckled when Prescott hit him with jab for christ's sake.

All the signs are there clear as day that Khan simply does not hold a shot. The left hook which put him down was a real monster of a shot, and Prescott can punch, but Amirs legs were stiffened by the jab that came a few second before, and he has been put on queer street by Limond.

Khan will have to adopt a very safety first style to succeed, and I'm just not sure that will suit his persona.
No they weren't buckled by a jab it was a wide long counter hook, not a jab
It was a jab. You can see it here (12 seconds in): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1hLX9j1gEg

Re: Are We Over Reacting?

Posted: 08 Sep 2008, 06:28
by jamesmcdonnell
Thanks for that, as I said, it was a jab. :TU:

Re: Are We Over Reacting?

Posted: 08 Sep 2008, 07:50
by Phenomenal-Nutrition
Asterix wrote:
Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:Never say never, but he's got a serious gradient to overcome.

Amirs legs buckled when Prescott hit him with jab for christ's sake.

All the signs are there clear as day that Khan simply does not hold a shot. The left hook which put him down was a real monster of a shot, and Prescott can punch, but Amirs legs were stiffened by the jab that came a few second before, and he has been put on queer street by Limond.

Khan will have to adopt a very safety first style to succeed, and I'm just not sure that will suit his persona.
No they weren't buckled by a jab it was a wide long counter hook, not a jab
It was a jab. You can see it here (12 seconds in): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1hLX9j1gEg
Don't think that jab stunned him, dont think he was stunned until around 21seconds with that counter hook, Amirs chin is so high up in the air its not funny

Re: Are We Over Reacting?

Posted: 08 Sep 2008, 07:57
by stujones
That jab stunned him.... khan has admitted that both hands carried serious power.

Re: Are We Over Reacting?

Posted: 08 Sep 2008, 08:33
by Syntax Error
MR UNTOUCHABLE wrote:Let's just STOP.... for a minute.

Are we saying ABSOLUTELY that there is no way back for Amer?

He hasn't just been caught cold in the 1st (lets face it, it happens)?

He showed big heart to get up (1st KD) and try on the 2nd!

Is he too big to make Lightweight and be healthy and Strong?

Are we sure?
Ordinarily I might say yes, but in this case, I'm saying no.

Amir's fragility was exposed by Willie Limond who CAN'T punch & there are also issues with his body punch resisatance as exposed by Michael Gomez, who will never be mistaken for namesake Wilfredo in the power stakes.

I'm afraid that Khan has real issues with his punch resistance & it may prevent him from achieving his goals.

Re: Are We Over Reacting?

Posted: 08 Sep 2008, 08:36
by Khaosai-Galaxy
Well obviously i think you are over reacting, yes his legs stiffened from a very sturdy jab. but the knock down shots would have floored any lightweight.

All this Khan is chinny stuff is very very overplayed, the real story is that Khan has a poor defense and doesnt really have the smarts to grab and hold when he's in bother.

Prescott looked 'reet tho, maybe he's a potential world champ sooner rather than later

Re: Are We Over Reacting?

Posted: 08 Sep 2008, 08:38
by DavidPayne
True K-G.

He just seems unaware of incoming shots. He has no instinct for trouble, survival and thinks its just an opportunity to show off his punches....oh shit, he can punch too? Nobody told me.

As Amir said "nobody is invisible", which isn't what he meant to say but it fitted anyhow...

"Nobody is invisible", Amir Khan explains

Re: Are We Over Reacting?

Posted: 08 Sep 2008, 08:40
by DavidPayne
PS - I reckon Khan would have ben brilliant at Daley Thompson's Decathalon in the arcades.

He's a button-basher of a boxer.

Re: Are We Over Reacting?

Posted: 08 Sep 2008, 08:46
by sweetscience
the lack of defence is proberly because he has always been the boss in sparring & fights since 11

he has never needed to defend cause his offence was too good

Re: Are We Over Reacting?

Posted: 08 Sep 2008, 08:47
by Khaosai-Galaxy
DavidPayne wrote:PS - I reckon Khan would have ben brilliant at Daley Thompson's in the arcades.

He's a button-basher of a boxer.
ahhhh the memories Image

I've never thought Khan was the next Sugar Ray, but he's got talent and they dont hand out Olympic silver medals for nothing

Wont be a world champ

I dont get why people are popping the Champagne corks at Khans demise tho, British boxing needs its stars, no?

Re: Are We Over Reacting?

Posted: 08 Sep 2008, 08:50
by Wales
I was chuffed to bits to see him humbled, just a shame it wasnt Murray or Thaxton that did the humbling.

Re: Are We Over Reacting?

Posted: 08 Sep 2008, 10:19
by Coffee Aroma
Khaosai-Galaxy wrote:Well obviously i think you are over reacting, yes his legs stiffened from a very sturdy jab. but the knock down shots would have floored any lightweight.

All this Khan is chinny stuff is very very overplayed, the real story is that Khan has a poor defense and doesnt really have the smarts to grab and hold when he's in bother.

Prescott looked 'reet tho, maybe he's a potential world champ sooner rather than later

FFS!.......... Khan's arse has spent more time on the canvas than his feet!
Don't you think Khan's ability has been..........................................very very very very overplayed :evil:
Everyone put in front of Khan from now on will go head hunting :box:
lets face it the party's over. :TU: