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Haye v Johnson?
Posted: 12 Sep 2008, 03:29
by Poncey
According to Dan "Khan is the world's best young prospect" Rafael:
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/blog/ind ... rafael_dan
Wildcard, but an intruiging fight none-the-less.
Re: Haye v Johnson?
Posted: 12 Sep 2008, 04:21
by Wales
Light puncher though, isnt he?
Re: Haye v Johnson?
Posted: 12 Sep 2008, 04:25
by DavidPayne
Yeh Rafael slips the knife in on Haye there if you read it closely.
One one hand relays that Maskaev and Golota turned it down then says they're picking Johnson because he can't punch.
Cruel.
By the way, has anyone seen Hayemakers promo for Haye versus WK.
Brilliant. Its included below. Well made, I think its on Haye's myspace page too.
Rafael slips Haye a low blow
Re: Haye v Johnson?
Posted: 12 Sep 2008, 04:34
by Old bones Ian
Johnson is a perfectly good foe for Haye, the american is ambitious, has decent skills.
The only problem i can see is if american TV don't want it, as it won't help promote Haye over there if his face isn't seen.
Johnson has stunk out a couple of times when he was on TV, so the execs might not want to pay for that.
Re: Haye v Johnson?
Posted: 12 Sep 2008, 05:50
by DavidPayne
I feel sure, instinctively, that Rahman, Toney, Maskaev or Golota will get the nod.
And I still think Rahman or Maskaev would be the preferred mroe obvious choices.
Bunce suggested an announcement today, with the conference next week?
Re: Haye v Johnson?
Posted: 12 Sep 2008, 05:53
by Poncey
Is there anyway I can catch his boxing hour on the net?
I missed it last night.
Re: Haye v Johnson?
Posted: 12 Sep 2008, 05:55
by DavidPayne
Apparentley not. I've asked him. He didn't even know the repeat times, nobody seems to at Setanta he said.
Re: Haye v Johnson?
Posted: 12 Sep 2008, 10:55
by steve689
Rafael's track records with prospects is lame.
Didn't he practically have an open love affair with Joel Julio a couple of years back?
Re: Haye v Johnson?
Posted: 12 Sep 2008, 11:03
by scotty
Emerson Poncey Name Ghent wrote:Is there anyway I can catch his boxing hour on the net?
I missed it last night.
Its on at 5pm on Setanta 1 today. Just watched a replay of Calderón v Cazares on there - that cut on Calderóns head was pretty dire.
Re: Haye v Johnson?
Posted: 12 Sep 2008, 11:13
by overhand_right
How would they sell Kevin Johnson? A boring light puncher with 19 nobodies and a kayo of a 42 year old Bruce Seldon?
Not much to get the blood pumping is it?
Rahman looked very chinny v Toney, Golota is a waste of time, good choices would be Monte Barrett or Oleg Maskaev right now. James Toney a very ambitious match, too tricky.
Re: Haye v Johnson?
Posted: 12 Sep 2008, 11:28
by whatashambles
He's ranked 7th with the WBA.
In regards to American TV, HBO have a big card for the 15th of November so you're looking at Showtime.
Re: Haye v Johnson?
Posted: 12 Sep 2008, 11:39
by overhand_right
I understand hes ranked 7th, its just when British TV and papers try to explain why hes highly ranked; hes not beaten one name with the exception of unranked 42 year old Bruce Seldon.
Hes also deadly boring to watch.
Hmmmm.
Re: Haye v Johnson?
Posted: 12 Sep 2008, 11:49
by johnswan1
Julio looked like a killer prior to fighting Quintana. Somewhat exposed since then but he could still do well at Light Middle.
steve689 wrote:Rafael's track records with prospects is lame.
Didn't he practically have an open love affair with Joel Julio a couple of years back?
Re: Haye v Johnson?
Posted: 12 Sep 2008, 16:27
by Bard of Boxrec
but with the scene as it is at HW the mediocre guys kind of get shifted forward in the pecking order.
It would be an ok opponent by this token, the 'top' guys are either not interested or eating doughnuts or something.
Is this a better, more motivated, challenging guy than an old, bored maskaev for instance? i think so but I dunno, who cares, etc.
When /if Haye sparks him/someone I'll take an interest, maybe.
Re: Haye v Johnson?
Posted: 12 Sep 2008, 17:07
by Poncey
Bunce said it was signed today, announcement on Tues.
Re: Haye v Johnson?
Posted: 12 Sep 2008, 17:20
by Old bones Ian
although i don't mind this match, think it may be better than alot of people think,its not the earth shattering fight that Haye was saying it was going to be.
But if i've got the money i'll go to it.
Re: Haye v Johnson?
Posted: 12 Sep 2008, 17:32
by Poncey
Driving there with Wales and Dirk if you want a lift.
Re: Haye v Johnson?
Posted: 12 Sep 2008, 17:41
by Old bones Ian
cheers mate, i'll have to check funds and work, now got 2 jobs
Re: Haye v Johnson?
Posted: 12 Sep 2008, 18:00
by BAMBI
when are tickets due for sale?
Re: Haye v Johnson?
Posted: 12 Sep 2008, 18:03
by Poncey
After opponent announcement. Doors open at 8 apparently, well according to a tout site, so presumably will be on US TV.
Re: Haye v Johnson?
Posted: 12 Sep 2008, 18:15
by Horse
This opponent is not good enough. If Haye faces this opponent then he should keep his mouth shut from now on, the way he has been going on I expected a genuine top 10 opponent.
I really hope it is not this guy.
Re: Haye v Johnson?
Posted: 12 Sep 2008, 18:29
by Mukel
I was expecting a bigger name like Rahman or Maskaev but to be honest Johnson
is probably a more live opponent than those two, who lets be honest are way past there primes
where as johnson is reaching his.
He is a top ten ranked heavyweight, no7 by the WBC, and he is 6ft5 and has a very good jab,
the only disappointment is the guy isnt a concussive puncher, but then again, im sure he
hits hard enough to hurt Haye if he lands a decent enough punch.
The main thing is, Johnson is ambitious and will be coming to win and he is in his prime.
But still, Haye to win by the obvious KO.
Re: Haye v Johnson?
Posted: 12 Sep 2008, 19:24
by Shirow
BAMBI wrote:when are tickets due for sale?
Got mine reserved already. Not what you know
I believe they officially go on sale on 18 September. They are priced at £50, £80, £125, £175, £250, £500 & £750 for ringside.
Re: Haye v Johnson?
Posted: 12 Sep 2008, 19:25
by BAMBI
cheers..i might go, i live in east london, so its not far from my sides!
Re: Haye v Johnson?
Posted: 12 Sep 2008, 19:26
by stujones
Yeah decent match.... I was expecting a bigger name, past his best type.... like a Maskaev or Moorer.
Ibragimov would have been a decent call.
Anyone know if Kirk Johnson has retired..... I saw his last fight (2 years ago) and he looked good untill a freak injury cost him certain victory.