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Haye v Chapman.....clash of the heavyweight titans

Posted: 17 Sep 2008, 07:54
by boxingchat
When David Haye announced that he was to be promoting himself, at heavyweight, with a multi-fight deal with Setanta and the O2, he stated (as did Setanta) that he would be fighting "quality heavyweights" from the beginning of the deal.I, aswell as many other boxing fans that I have spoke to, felt genuinely excited by Hayes claims of cleaning up the heavyweight division and beating the best put there in the process.

So.........who is JD Chapman? An unbeaten (who has beaten nobody) heavyweight who I for one have never heard of. All the promises of big names and big promotions, both from promoter/fighter and broadcaster, have been found seriously short.Chapmans last win was against the world renowned Rich Boruff (KO 2) in the Shaikh Rashid Hall, Dubai. This is obviously why Hayemaker have gone for this option. Proven quality track record.

He is ranked highly (WBO 7, WBA 9, WBC 13), but with the current state of the heavyweight division, surely Haye has to be fighting one of the bigger names IF he is to be taken seriously as a heavyweight fighter (and promoter), and secondly if he wants to fill the O2 (did anyone else hear that pin drop?). Boxrec have this guy ranked at 114.........and the IBO have him at 92. Maybe they have missed something the governing bodies have noticed in this guy.

I think its a piss take for Haye to declare himself a promoter then behave like this.......and i for one hope that nobody is stupid enough to buy a ticket for the O2 show.

Seriously disapointed.

Re: Haye v Chapman.....clash of the heavyweight titans

Posted: 17 Sep 2008, 07:56
by Poncey
JD Chapman is now retired.

Re: Haye v Chapman.....clash of the heavyweight titans

Posted: 17 Sep 2008, 08:06
by Wales
Has this fight been announceD?

Re: Haye v Chapman.....clash of the heavyweight titans

Posted: 17 Sep 2008, 08:10
by johnftiz
it will be

Re: Haye v Chapman.....clash of the heavyweight titans

Posted: 17 Sep 2008, 08:11
by Wales
Really, when?

Bit of a panicked pick if so, very dissapointing.

Re: Haye v Chapman.....clash of the heavyweight titans

Posted: 17 Sep 2008, 08:13
by Poncey
Source for it being announced as Haye's opponent?

According to Stacy Goodson, JD's former Promoter and friend, he's quit Boxing because of the harassment he's received about not taking the fight and can't be bothered with Boxing anymore.

Re: Haye v Chapman.....clash of the heavyweight titans

Posted: 17 Sep 2008, 08:19
by Wales
That could be a red herring I suppose.

Wheres the link or source for this?

Re: Haye v Chapman.....clash of the heavyweight titans

Posted: 17 Sep 2008, 08:19
by MightyWarrior
Retired??? Blimey, that just about sums up the type of opponent they were looking at there.
They better sort this ASAP, before it decends further into farce.

Better bite the bullet and go for Johnson, who sounds like he's more than up for it. Decent test, but sounds like Haye's camp know it could well prove harder than they want at this stage, more so with an easy path to Wlad looking likely.

Re: Haye v Chapman.....clash of the heavyweight titans

Posted: 17 Sep 2008, 08:26
by banjo
He should have just settled for Matt Skelton or Audley Harrison, he'd have made a ton more money and it'd look far better on his record especially if he managed to stop Skelton, plus it'd be more egg on Fwanks face. :D

Re: Haye v Chapman.....clash of the heavyweight titans

Posted: 17 Sep 2008, 09:46
by johnftiz
[quote="banjo"]He should have just settled for Matt Skelton or Audley Harrison, he'd have made a ton more money and it'd look far better on his record especially if he managed to stop Skelton, plus it'd be more egg on Fwanks face. :D[/quote

im sure thats Hayes main objective.....to piss off warren.

Re: Haye v Chapman.....clash of the heavyweight titans

Posted: 17 Sep 2008, 10:05
by MightyWarrior
Now it could be....wait for it.....Ray Mercer. Not ranked in top 10? No worries, they're getting a petition sorted for the WBO to rank him! Unreal

Re: Haye v Chapman.....clash of the heavyweight titans

Posted: 17 Sep 2008, 10:05
by mark thompson
banjo wrote:He should have just settled for Matt Skelton or Audley Harrison, he'd have made a ton more money and it'd look far better on his record especially if he managed to stop Skelton, plus it'd be more egg on Fwanks face. :D
He wouldn't of risked Skelton in his first fight no way !!

Re: Haye v Chapman.....clash of the heavyweight titans

Posted: 17 Sep 2008, 10:11
by charlieb
It's not going to be Ray friggin' Mercer.

Re: Haye v Chapman.....clash of the heavyweight titans

Posted: 17 Sep 2008, 10:12
by oliverfennell
MightyWarrior wrote:Now it could be....wait for it.....Ray Mercer. Not ranked in top 10? No worries, they're getting a petition sorted for the WBO to rank him! Unreal
Who in God's name would sign such a petition??

Re: Haye v Chapman.....clash of the heavyweight titans

Posted: 17 Sep 2008, 10:14
by MightyWarrior
oliverfennell wrote:
MightyWarrior wrote:Now it could be....wait for it.....Ray Mercer. Not ranked in top 10? No worries, they're getting a petition sorted for the WBO to rank him! Unreal
Who in God's name would sign such a petition??
David Haye...Adam Booth...JD Chapman..

http://www.boxingtalk.com/pag/article.php?aid=16239

Re: Haye v Chapman.....clash of the heavyweight titans

Posted: 17 Sep 2008, 10:17
by Poncey
I have a petition for Butterbean to be ranked if anyone wants to sign it. I figures he's over here at the moment, so why not.

Licence, smicence.

Re: Haye v Chapman.....clash of the heavyweight titans

Posted: 17 Sep 2008, 10:22
by jamesmcdonnell
What an utter load of bollocks.

Imagine Manchester United 'petitiioning' the FA to have Accrington Stanley ranked in the premiership.

If the WBO sanction this, they really are a running joke, though no more so than any of the other governing bodies to be fair.

Mercer is bloody ancient, he's older than God's dog, sure, he's got a good chin, but he can't really fight any more, he creaks more than a 16th century frigate.

Re: Haye v Chapman.....clash of the heavyweight titans

Posted: 17 Sep 2008, 10:34
by mark thompson
Why doesn't he try a get a fight with Briggs :lol: :lol: :lol: it's just getting ridiculous, I've got free tickets but if he's fighting Mercer i don't know if it's worth the trip down there for 3-6 mins of action

Re: Haye v Chapman.....clash of the heavyweight titans

Posted: 17 Sep 2008, 10:39
by Old bones Ian
unfortunatly all of this is being held in the open by Hayemaker, it might be prodent to conduct some of this in private, if you were a manager of a heavyweight than you now know that Haye is getting a bit desparate for an opponent, so you can add a bit more money to a deal.

Re: Haye v Chapman.....clash of the heavyweight titans

Posted: 17 Sep 2008, 11:23
by Eraserhead
MightyWarrior wrote:
oliverfennell wrote:
MightyWarrior wrote:Now it could be....wait for it.....Ray Mercer. Not ranked in top 10? No worries, they're getting a petition sorted for the WBO to rank him! Unreal
Who in God's name would sign such a petition??
David Haye...Adam Booth...JD Chapman..

http://www.boxingtalk.com/pag/article.php?aid=16239

Anyone who believes that has taken more whacks to the cranium than Ray Mercer. That thing sent out this morning is nothing but a press release issued by Mercer and his people. It's a follow-up to the one they did last week calling out Haye for broke-ass Ray.

I think it's safe to say Mercer and Haye will never fight.

Next...

Re: Haye v Chapman.....clash of the heavyweight titans

Posted: 17 Sep 2008, 12:19
by overhand_right
oliverfennell wrote:
MightyWarrior wrote:Now it could be....wait for it.....Ray Mercer. Not ranked in top 10? No worries, they're getting a petition sorted for the WBO to rank him! Unreal
Who in God's name would sign such a petition??

People who hate Ray Mercer and want to get him killed?

Re: Haye v Chapman.....clash of the heavyweight titans

Posted: 17 Sep 2008, 12:21
by overhand_right
PS since when did you have to petition the WBO to rank a hopeless and underserving fighter?

The list of embarrassing WBO top 10 ranked 'contenders' from 1989 to present would be completely impossible to write.

Re: Haye v Chapman.....clash of the heavyweight titans

Posted: 17 Sep 2008, 12:35
by hitman_hatton1
ray mercer was past it 6 yrs ago.

when he got thrashed by wladimir klitschko.

that would be a scandal if he was the opponent. :oops:

Re: Haye v Chapman.....clash of the heavyweight titans

Posted: 17 Sep 2008, 13:37
by mark thompson
overhand_right wrote:PS since when did you have to petition the WBO to rank a hopeless and underserving fighter?

The list of embarrassing WBO top 10 ranked 'contenders' from 1989 to present would be completely impossible to write.
The whole of the WBO is a joke any rankings that have Michael Jennings rated higher than Sugar Shane Mosley is laughable :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Haye v Chapman.....clash of the heavyweight titans

Posted: 17 Sep 2008, 14:55
by Chambers2
boxingchat wrote:When David Haye announced that he was to be promoting himself, at heavyweight, with a multi-fight deal with Setanta and the O2, he stated (as did Setanta) that he would be fighting "quality heavyweights" from the beginning of the deal.I, aswell as many other boxing fans that I have spoke to, felt genuinely excited by Hayes claims of cleaning up the heavyweight division and beating the best put there in the process.

So.........who is JD Chapman? An unbeaten (who has beaten nobody) heavyweight who I for one have never heard of. All the promises of big names and big promotions, both from promoter/fighter and broadcaster, have been found seriously short.Chapmans last win was against the world renowned Rich Boruff (KO 2) in the Shaikh Rashid Hall, Dubai. This is obviously why Hayemaker have gone for this option. Proven quality track record.

He is ranked highly (WBO 7, WBA 9, WBC 13), but with the current state of the heavyweight division, surely Haye has to be fighting one of the bigger names IF he is to be taken seriously as a heavyweight fighter (and promoter), and secondly if he wants to fill the O2 (did anyone else hear that pin drop?). Boxrec have this guy ranked at 114.........and the IBO have him at 92. Maybe they have missed something the governing bodies have noticed in this guy.

I think its a piss take for Haye to declare himself a promoter then behave like this.......and i for one hope that nobody is stupid enough to buy a ticket for the O2 show.

Seriously disapointed.
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