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seen this type of post on other forums so thought wouuld do an aussie specific one here.sorry for lack of originality. probably referring to more recent times(last 30 or so years).

IMO I would have to say Troy Waters has gotta be up there for sure.

Any thoughts.

Paul Briggs, Hussien Hussien, Paul Ferrari let me keep thinking, Are we only talking legit tiles as im sure Hussy won some wbu title.

Hector Thompson Good thread there have been plenty that just fell short.
Tony Mundine

Loads of the old timers come to mind here, especially some of the Aboriginal fighters. Dave Sands, Ron Richards Vic Patrick. And Charkey Ramon

hussein was a great fighter and maybe one of the best aus has produced but he did have his fair share of title fights
question is green better than hussein cause he won a world title
green beat an opponent no where in the same league as the opponents hussy had to fight to win a world title
also would have green beat adamek to win his title cause briggs did beat stripes during his career
if you made an aus top ten p4p than waters, tony mundine and hussein would rate higher than many of aus world title holders
was never able to watch many of the old fighters but did listen to a radio show a few years back and they had an interview with the voted best aus to never win title cant remember his name but he was a middleweight in the 70s and was tony mundines biggest rival he fought back in the days when middleweights ranged from welter to lhw
hurt his shoulder surfing consequently stopping him from having a title shot

Mundine's rival was Kahu Mahanga from NZ I think

he was australian

ben k wrote:Hector Thompson Good thread there have been plenty that just fell short.
Tony Mundine

Yes Hector and Mundine came up against Duran and Monzon respectively ., and no Interim alphabet titles unfortunately. Their Commonwealth titles were worth more than any of the bullsh*t titles going around today. I also think Paul ferarri and Dave Sands and of course Les Darcy are obvious picks.

All good choices. Darcy, Sands, Ramon and Thompson are all good picks. I've always thought that if Troy Waters was fighting when the welterweight division was slightly weaker he would have won a title for sure.

Troy would have done a lot better had it not been for that maniac of a father he had

bollox wrote:Troy would have done a lot better had it not been for that maniac of a father he had

Without that maniac father, he would never have been a boxer.

mano loco wrote:

bollox wrote:Troy would have done a lot better had it not been for that maniac of a father he had

Without that maniac father, he would never have been a boxer.

Quite possibly But what I do know is the old man was no good for those boys as fighters

Cliffy Samardin is one that breaks my heart.

Mundine opponent Kahu Mahanga is Maori.

'Aussie' Joe Bugner !!!

sam soliman

Henry Nissen, Dave Sands and Charkey Ramon!

tommy burns!!

Carlos-Wigan wrote:Henry Nissen, Dave Sands and Charkey Ramon!

Henry was a recent guest on an SBS tv show here in Melbourne, run by this bloke......

http://www.mklawfirm.com.au/media.html

bollox wrote:

Carlos-Wigan wrote:Henry Nissen, Dave Sands and Charkey Ramon!

Henry was a recent guest on an SBS tv show here in Melbourne, run by this bloke......

http://www.mklawfirm.com.au/media.html

Henry is a top bloke, very generous with his time and always happy to talk boxing. Great to see him still involved in the game as a judge.

Another contender for the best local boxer never to win a world title would have been old timer Jack Carroll.

Jack who was a very skillful welter who fought between 1923 and 1938 with a record of 90 wins (38 by ko), 10 losses (3 by ko) with 4 draws.

He was never defeated from 1st April 1932 until he retired and fought many 15 round main events.

The Black Prince Peter Jackson would have to be in there as well.

His bout with Gentleman Jim Corbett was called off due to exhaustion after the 61st round.

Ben Cruz was one I thought could have been a goodun. But I think he is in Jail now, silly bugger

bollox wrote:

mano loco wrote:

bollox wrote:Troy would have done a lot better had it not been for that maniac of a father he had

Without that maniac father, he would never have been a boxer.

Quite possibly But what I do know is the old man was no good for those boys as fighters

he was worse for them as a father.

from the little I've read it would have to be Dave Sands.

Why hasn't Brute coughed up his 2 cents worth on this?

Beltane wrote:Another contender for the best local boxer never to win a world title would have been old timer Jack Carroll.

Jack who was a very skillful welter who fought between 1923 and 1938 with a record of 90 wins (38 by ko), 10 losses (3 by ko) with 4 draws.

He was never defeated from 1st April 1932 until he retired and fought many 15 round main events.

There is a legend that Barney Ross was going to defend his World Welterweight title against "some old guy in Australia named Carroll", but changed his mind when Maxie Rosenbloom, who had fought on some cards Carroll was on in Sydney said to Ross "Barney, if you fight that old guy you ain't gonna be World Champion no more."