Page 1 of 2
Australian Light Heavy Title
Posted: 06 Oct 2008, 02:08
by Charlie Liparota
Zdravko Micevic V Joel Casey
Coburg Town Hall
Friday November 14th
Re: Australian Light Heavy Title
Posted: 06 Oct 2008, 17:38
by toppity
Charlie Liparota wrote:Zdravko Micevic V Joel Casey
Coburg Town Hall
Friday November 14th
infortunate change in opponent (no offense to Joel) but it's good to see the fight still going ahead.

Re: Australian Light Heavy Title
Posted: 06 Oct 2008, 18:47
by gerry
were any of the 7 fighters ranked higher than casey asked if they would like to fight for the title
how does micevic get an open title shot shouldnt it go to the next highest ranked
not criticising honostly would like to know
Re: Australian Light Heavy Title
Posted: 06 Oct 2008, 21:45
by Brute
If Bell has had to relinquish the title because he has won the OPBF title, shouldn't Lovett and Stenton be fighting for the title?
Re: Australian Light Heavy Title
Posted: 06 Oct 2008, 21:49
by unleash06
yep, they should but..... bell had to give up title to fight for regional title not because he won it. if boxers are going to chase regional titles,OPBF, PABA etc they can't hold national title as well. it stinks. no real reason that I can see that they can't hold both other than bullshit politics.
Re: Australian Light Heavy Title
Posted: 06 Oct 2008, 21:52
by unleash06
that is why you will usually see that top 3-4 fighters in each division will not fight for national title. they will be chasing either world titles or regional belts to gain world rankings.
Re: Australian Light Heavy Title
Posted: 06 Oct 2008, 21:55
by Charlie Liparota
Hi Gerry,
Now with the title being relinquished by Bell the next guy in line was Stenton. Porky(1) ineligible as he held regional titles at the time. Stenton(2), according to his trainer has retired, so McKay then takes his spot at Number (3). He was scheduled to fight Micevic at number (4). Now Mackay pulling out injured has left the title with Micevic. So as you can see none of the guys above Micevic are available so I started working down the line. I contacted Baff's(5) management and he is out of the country at the moment. Johnny Walker(6) holds regional IBF title and was not prepared to relinquish that to fight for Oz title. Next Charles Njock(7) who is Micevic's stable mate and wouldn't be right for two guys from same gym fighting for it. Next was Casey(8) who accepted the fight but need more time as he is scheduled to fight on 18th Oct against Quagliotto (9), thus the 2 week posponement of our show. I also offered it to Foley(10), Bolling(11), but as they are rated below Casey would have to fight on original date of Oct 31 to by pass him. They both indicated that would not be ready in time.
With the original purse bid and subsequent injuries to McKay it has been one hell of a process to get this fight together.
Hope this clears things up for you.
Re: Australian Light Heavy Title
Posted: 06 Oct 2008, 21:59
by Brute
Clear as mud. If the Australian champion is not the best Australian in the division it denigrates the national title. I have heard the reasons before and they are rubbish.
It is like a primary school footrace where every child gets a prize.
Re: Australian Light Heavy Title
Posted: 06 Oct 2008, 21:59
by Charlie Liparota
Brute wrote:If Bell has had to relinquish the title because he has won the OPBF title, shouldn't Lovett and Stenton be fighting for the title?
You are right in what you say but the ANBF doesn't like titles remaining vacant for too long. Lovett may not be ready to fight for some time now and there is the chance that he may not even be interested. Stenton I believe has retired.
Re: Australian Light Heavy Title
Posted: 06 Oct 2008, 22:01
by Brute
Maybe somebody should tell Boxrec. They still have him as active.
Re: Australian Light Heavy Title
Posted: 06 Oct 2008, 22:04
by unleash06
heath was going to try and have a couple more fights but at SMW but i think he has found it hard to get matched up at moment. was gonna fight kane in exhibition this week but with Kane's injury that is now off.
Re: Australian Light Heavy Title
Posted: 06 Oct 2008, 22:06
by unleash06
charlie, is Kane likely to fight winner??
Re: Australian Light Heavy Title
Posted: 06 Oct 2008, 22:35
by mano loco
unleash06 wrote:charlie, is Kane likely to fight winner??
My mail is that Kane has decided to call it a day after suffering the rib injury.
Re: Australian Light Heavy Title
Posted: 07 Oct 2008, 02:44
by shovel007
dont think stenton has retired yet think his waitin 2 have another crack at bell..
Re: Australian Light Heavy Title
Posted: 07 Oct 2008, 04:27
by Charlie Liparota
unleash06 wrote:charlie, is Kane likely to fight winner??
I can't speak for Casey, but if Zdravko wins the title I'm sure we would consider giving him a shot next year.
Re: Australian Light Heavy Title
Posted: 07 Oct 2008, 04:55
by junkyard dog
No yet charlie who told you that I will be looking to fight the winner for the aussie title & Tim Bell if Heath don't fight him after sparring Tim I think it will be a good close fight...
Re: Australian Light Heavy Title
Posted: 07 Oct 2008, 05:20
by Charlie Liparota
No one told me that I just got asked that question by unleash06. All I said is if we win and you wanted a shot we'd give it to you. As for Heath, Tony Salta told me that he retired when I rang him thursday and offered him the Micevic fight, but maybe after Bell's win on sunday Heath would want a shot at him. Great fight if it happens.
Re: Australian Light Heavy Title
Posted: 07 Oct 2008, 05:35
by gerry
thankyou for the explaination i understand how hard you work to try and match fighters
best of luck to both fighters
i believe boxrec has the rankings correct i have said it before but how is njock and casey ahead of foley he is underfeated and also has fought two of the same opponents as micevic
Re: Australian Light Heavy Title
Posted: 07 Oct 2008, 05:46
by shovel007
it would be great 2 see bell & stenton go head 2 head again it was a great war last time when heath won ..hope some1 promotes it soon ..
Re: Australian Light Heavy Title
Posted: 07 Oct 2008, 06:50
by Charlie Liparota
gerry wrote:thankyou for the explaination i understand how hard you work to try and match fighters
best of luck to both fighters
i believe boxrec has the rankings correct i have said it before but how is njock and casey ahead of foley he is underfeated and also has fought two of the same opponents as micevic
Word is that Foley will climb the ratings once they come out.
Re: Australian Light Heavy Title
Posted: 07 Oct 2008, 09:55
by Hounddawg
junkyard dog wrote:No yet charlie who told you that I will be looking to fight the winner for the aussie title & Tim Bell if Heath don't fight him after sparring Tim I think it will be a good close fight...
Sorry forgive me for this, but who are you?
![[icon_e_confused.gif] :confused:](./images/smilies/icon_e_confused.gif)
Re: Australian Light Heavy Title
Posted: 07 Oct 2008, 09:57
by Hounddawg
Charlie Liparota wrote:gerry wrote:thankyou for the explaination i understand how hard you work to try and match fighters
best of luck to both fighters
i believe boxrec has the rankings correct i have said it before but how is njock and casey ahead of foley he is underfeated and also has fought two of the same opponents as micevic
Word is that Foley will climb the ratings once they come out.
And he should.

Re: Australian Light Heavy Title
Posted: 07 Oct 2008, 17:51
by mano loco
Hounddog wrote:junkyard dog wrote:No yet charlie who told you that I will be looking to fight the winner for the aussie title & Tim Bell if Heath don't fight him after sparring Tim I think it will be a good close fight...
Sorry forgive me for this, but who are you?
![[icon_e_confused.gif] :confused:](./images/smilies/icon_e_confused.gif)
It's Kane McKay.
Re: Australian Light Heavy Title
Posted: 07 Oct 2008, 18:18
by COULDHAVEBEEN
Charlie Liparota wrote:Hi Gerry,
Now with the title being relinquished by Bell the next guy in line was Stenton. Porky(1) ineligible as he held regional titles at the time. Stenton(2), according to his trainer has retired, so McKay then takes his spot at Number (3). etc, etc.
Hope this clears things up for you.
Thanks for going through it Charlie.
People can argue about it not being between the best two guys in the division. But it is between the best two available guys. If we are going to have Australian title holders that's the way it has to be these days with the contstraints of all the other titles going around.
Re: Australian Light Heavy Title
Posted: 07 Oct 2008, 18:41
by razor7
Great to see that explained Charlie & the work that good promoters go through to put on good cards.It should still be a good fight as Casey has a warm up fight planned so should be in shape.