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The benefits of skipping

Posted: 09 Oct 2008, 12:42
by dondada
1. What are the GENERAL benefits to fitness of skipping?

2. Are there any benefits from skipping which particularly suit boxing?

3. What might a decent skipping regime be within a training programme?

4. Does skipping still hold its own within boxing training or (rather like crack of dawn roadwork, I believe) is it becoming old fashioned?

Don't take the p*ss, someone has asked me to find out. :D Any informed responses gratefully received.

5. For my own satisfaction, any boxers who were particularly awesome at it? Tyson and Larry Holmes used to look like they were going at 100mph but still looked completely relaxed with loads of tricks, etc.

Re: The benefits of skipping

Posted: 09 Oct 2008, 13:52
by Old bones Ian
I could never master the skipping rope, always looked like i needed special help when i tried

Re: The benefits of skipping

Posted: 09 Oct 2008, 14:16
by mike john
calzaghe doesnt skip. its a good all round exercise, good for cardio as well as working the muscles in your legs arms and shoulders. helps with coordination, and theres a mental aspect to it, cause even when knackered, with jogging say, you could be all over the place, but if you dont focus on what your doing with the rope, youll misstime your jump and catch the rope

Re: The benefits of skipping

Posted: 09 Oct 2008, 14:20
by SticknMove
It probably has the same fitness benefits as any other cardio vascular activity including running. Where it may be more benficial to boxing is in the amount of coordination it requires between your top half and bottom half, to be good at it. Cross arm and double rope turning to one jump requires concentration and coordination to carry it through unbroken.

Skipping has always been a very accessible and versatile exercise in the gym – all you need is a rope and a clock. Apart from it being a good weight burner there are many ways you can incorporate it into a boxing regimen. Low tech may mean old fashioned but doesn’t necessaily mean obsolete.

It can be used as a warm up/down exercise, a substitute for a 25-30 min steady state run or as a relay. You can alternate a half minute steady state with a half minute burnout for 3 minutes followed by a minutes rest. Do a number of these rounds and you will feel the aches and pains in your shoulders and arms the next day. All the while you are consolidating and coordinating your fitness.

It’s may not be everyone’s cup to tea but if used properly it still has it’s part to playin boxing IMO.

Re: The benefits of skipping

Posted: 09 Oct 2008, 14:29
by Old bones Ian
its certainly one of the oldest training methods, you see all the boxers from the early 1900's using the rope, it could be said its just tradition that keeps it going now, as there are probably better methods of warming up or down if looked at scientificly.

Re: The benefits of skipping

Posted: 09 Oct 2008, 14:37
by Chambers2
A few years ago I used to skip for about 30 minutes 4 or 5 times a week in my gymming routine (I was awesome 8) ) and I'm sure that paid a BIG contribution to fornicating my shoulder up

Re: The benefits of skipping

Posted: 09 Oct 2008, 16:02
by Phenomenal-Nutrition
1. What are the GENERAL benefits to fitness of skipping?

Its a cardiovascular exercise using many muscles so increases fitness to a high level, but not as effective as roadwork, which uses more muscles. For maximal VO2 levels 5k or 3mile runs at 95-100% pace are optimal although shorter runs may be optimal for newer runners or heavier runs. But do roadwork every day if you can, I'm off to cock a nightly 5miles round the dark graveyard 6times when Im done with this post

2. Are there any benefits from skipping which particularly suit boxing?

Yes it develops speed stamina, skipping as an action is fast, but because little movement is involved it can be done for a sustained period.

It replicates the boxing action of keeping on your tip toes and bouncing better than road work.

It develops hand to eye coordination

3. What might a decent skipping regime be within a training programme?

Skip at the beggining (to warm up) and end (to push your body hard), first thing in the morning (when the body has no fuel other than fat to burn). As for a regime just skip, vary faster skipping and skipping for as long as you can at decent pace

4. Does skipping still hold its own within boxing training or (rather like crack of dawn roadwork, I believe) is it becoming old fashioned?

Depends if you want to be any good or not, all the best boxers skip and all the best do roadwork. Knock 10%-20% off your mile time and see what a better athlete you are in the ring

Don't take the p*ss, someone has asked me to find out. Any informed responses gratefully received.

As they told us in school no question is a stupid question

5. For my own satisfaction, any boxers who were particularly awesome at it? Tyson and Larry Holmes used to look like they were going at 100mph but still looked completely relaxed with loads of tricks, etc.

Mayweather, Duran - 2 of the most impressive. Leonard, Sugar Ray Robinson......see at a patern?

Re: The benefits of skipping

Posted: 09 Oct 2008, 20:39
by King Tubby
In what way does it develop hand to eye co-ordination?

Re: The benefits of skipping

Posted: 10 Oct 2008, 03:09
by Poncey
The best skippers I've seen are Mayweather and Duran. Roy Jones was pretty decent in his day. They have videos on youtube.

I've been told that as any 10 minute cardio exercise skipping is the best. I wasn't sure.

I got this from my book, which it says is the standard measurement for all exercise ratios, in case it's a useful comparison for skipping versus other activities. PN could probably give more insight than I.

Badminton
.044
Basketball
.063
Bicycling at 5.5 mph
.029
Bicycling at 9.5 mph
.045
Climbing hills with no load
.055
Climbing hills with 9 lb. load
.058
Climbing hills with 22 lb. load
.064
Cooking
.022
Dancing, ballroom
.023
Dancing - Aerobic, medium pace
.046
Dance - Aerobic, intense
.061
Golf
.038
Grocery shopping
.028
Jumping Rope at 70 jumps per minute
.074
Jumping Rope at 125 jumps per minute
.080
Jumping Rope at 145 jumps per minute
.089
Mowing the lawn
.051
Racquetball
.081
Raking leaves
.025
Running at 6-minute mile
.115
Running at 8-minute mile
.095
Running at 9-minute mile
.087
Sitting Still
.009
Skiing cross-country - walking
.065
Skiing cross-country - uphill
.125
Snowshoeing - soft snow (doesn't mention hard snow :-? )
.075
Squats
.096
Swimming - crawl, slow pace
.058
Swimming - crawl, fast pace
.071
Swimming - breast stroke, fast pace
.074
Table tennis
.031
Walking - normal pace on asphalt road
.036
Walking - normal pace on fields & hills
.037
Weeding
.033
Weight training - free weights
.039
Weight training - circuit training
.042
Volleyball
.023

Re: The benefits of skipping

Posted: 10 Oct 2008, 03:40
by DavidPayne
So underwater ping-pong is off the scale Em?

Re: The benefits of skipping

Posted: 10 Oct 2008, 04:08
by Poncey
DavidPayne wrote:So underwater ping-pong is off the scale Em?
Provided you wear wellington boots as well. Just to build up your quads.

Re: The benefits of skipping

Posted: 10 Oct 2008, 04:16
by twenty six
an,
Herol Bomber Graham was the best I ever saw.
He even invented his own rope, and manufactured ropes at home.
Worth watchin every time when he trained.
Rhodesy's a bit handy as well.

Re: The benefits of skipping

Posted: 10 Oct 2008, 04:23
by DavidPayne
However, if you have two daughters its good to know you can showboat when they get the barbie skipping rope out!

Re: The benefits of skipping

Posted: 10 Oct 2008, 04:27
by twenty six
Too true, Dave.
But seriously Herol is really into kinetics ( is that how they spell it ?) and such like, and always extolled the virtues of skipping.

Re: The benefits of skipping

Posted: 10 Oct 2008, 04:28
by DavidPayne
Herol is a proper hero of mine. The legendary skipping marathons are all part of it the aura, ya know.

Re: The benefits of skipping

Posted: 10 Oct 2008, 04:51
by Old bones Ian
So i'm the polar opposite to Herol Graham, why can't i skip?
I am the worst i've ever seen, my greatest number must be about 10.
not minutes , thats 10 times i managed to get the rope round!!

Re: The benefits of skipping

Posted: 10 Oct 2008, 04:58
by dbf
Skipping is great for establishing a rhythm. By getting in a good skipping rhythm it allows the boxer time to think. I find it relaxing and mentally you can remember the new move you have learnt, think about and opponent, or just unwind from a hard training session.

I prefer to skip at the beginning of my training but others seem to finish with it.

Brian Viloria(??) is an awesome skipper.

Re: The benefits of skipping

Posted: 10 Oct 2008, 05:19
by Scrap
The plus for Skipping over Running, Less impact. Less chance of injury. :TU:

Re: The benefits of skipping

Posted: 10 Oct 2008, 05:21
by Poncey
Does Herol still make ropes in his garage? I've heard they're mustard. How do I get hold of one?

Re: The benefits of skipping

Posted: 10 Oct 2008, 05:31
by stujones
Sugar Ray Leonard was an awesome skipper, as is Floyd Mayweather Jnr.... never seen Hatton jump rope. Steve Collins admitted on TV that he could hardly skip (this was when he was fighting), he refused to skip on the show. He also claimed that footage of Ray Robinson and Joe Louis skipping was edited and they didn't do much skipping and most of it was Camera tricks... not sure I believe that.

Re: The benefits of skipping

Posted: 10 Oct 2008, 05:57
by Old bones Ian
From books of read about Joe Louis he was very uncoordinated when he started boxing, his footwork was awful , so it doesn't surprise me he never really took to skipping.

Re: The benefits of skipping

Posted: 10 Oct 2008, 06:25
by jamesmcdonnell
Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:1. What are the GENERAL benefits to fitness of skipping?

2. Are there any benefits from skipping which particularly suit boxing?

3. What might a decent skipping regime be within a training programme?

4. Does skipping still hold its own within boxing training or (rather like crack of dawn roadwork, I believe) is it becoming old fashioned?

Don't take the p*ss, someone has asked me to find out. :D Any informed responses gratefully received.

5. For my own satisfaction, any boxers who were particularly awesome at it? Tyson and Larry Holmes used to look like they were going at 100mph but still looked completely relaxed with loads of tricks, etc.
Sugar Ray Robinson used to draw crowds of hundreds who paid just to watch him skip! He was by all accounts one of the greatest - and also an accomplished jazz dancer.

It's great for coordination and timing, and is a pretty hard cardiovascular workout, and also develops the legs. Combined with high jumping over the ropes it can be used to develop leg muscles and also improves leg turnover speed and balance.

Whilst some boxing training methods are old fashioned, I think that skipping will always be able to hold its own.

Re: The benefits of skipping

Posted: 10 Oct 2008, 06:36
by stujones
Yes, it does seem to be the smooth boxers - Leonard, Mayweather, Ali etc - who could skip.

I do think though boxing training should be more about the movement specific to the sport. I do think you can adapt skipping to make it even more beneficial. For example, jumping rope in your fighting stance.

Re: The benefits of skipping

Posted: 10 Oct 2008, 09:17
by wilse
Scott Haywood obviously does a bit...........

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=IHT9hTMv2 ... re=related

:box:

Re: The benefits of skipping

Posted: 10 Oct 2008, 10:35
by Scrap
Skipping Plyometrics with a twist :DDD