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The British Boxing Federation and the British Boxing Board of Control, what is the difference between the two? Also, what do you guys think of Mark Potter?

British Boxing Federation and European Boxing Federation - basically 'self regulated' is the way I see them , used to be known as 'unlicensed' but I think they are becoming more accepted as time goes on. Essentially they operate outside of the British Boxing Board of Control, but the rules are fairly similar, just no brain scans etc.
Mark Potter, good pro, good record - fought at the top level in England. Operates on the self regulated circuit and is very well respected on it.
If boxing had a UFC style promotions these would be it.

bridportboxer wrote:British Boxing Federation and European Boxing Federation - basically 'self regulated' is the way I see them , used to be known as 'unlicensed' but I think they are becoming more accepted as time goes on. Essentially they operate outside of the British Boxing Board of Control, but the rules are fairly similar, just no brain scans etc.
Mark Potter, good pro, good record - fought at the top level in England. Operates on the self regulated circuit and is very well respected on it.
If boxing had a UFC style promotions these would be it.

Thanks for the reply.

One more question, so if you fought on the circuit, against Potter perhaps, a win/lose wouldn't go down on your record?

bridportboxer wrote:British Boxing Federation and European Boxing Federation - basically 'self regulated' is the way I see them , used to be known as 'unlicensed' but I think they are becoming more accepted as time goes on. Essentially they operate outside of the British Boxing Board of Control, but the rules are fairly similar, just no brain scans etc.
Mark Potter, good pro, good record - fought at the top level in England. Operates on the self regulated circuit and is very well respected on it.
If boxing had a UFC style promotions these would be it.

Sorry, friend, I don't think they are becoming accepted at all. These federations are underground movements for monkeys with health problems.

I think they are not underground at all - anyone can watch a show - they have websites, they promote using posters, leaflets, radio etc. They bring in big names - Shavers, Tucker, Butterbean, most of which would have been in WORKED fights. As time goes on they will bring in bigger names, maybe prospects, use journeymen to build up there own stars. I think it is genuinely only a matter of time before there shows start getting more 'online' press. Whilst some boxers do fight on the circuit because they wouldn't get licensed, most other governing bodies in the world probably would license them - we are talking Bean because he is morbidly obese (always has been really apart from a couple of fights) and Potter because of his eye (which is fixed and obviously doesn't cause him problems) I don't know any others.
How long before UK pros start to switch, I am not talking about the big stars - but the small hall boxers that are only being paid in the hundreds. They can can good money on the circuit and at the same time raise the level of boxing.
From a fans perspective, I can watch 2 local lads having a scrap on a BBBofC licensed show, or I can watch Earnie Shavers in a exhibition bout, the always popular Butterbean, Witherspoon, etc., etc. I know which most would and are choosing at the moment.

armageto wrote:

bridportboxer wrote:British Boxing Federation and European Boxing Federation - basically 'self regulated' is the way I see them , used to be known as 'unlicensed' but I think they are becoming more accepted as time goes on. Essentially they operate outside of the British Boxing Board of Control, but the rules are fairly similar, just no brain scans etc.
Mark Potter, good pro, good record - fought at the top level in England. Operates on the self regulated circuit and is very well respected on it.
If boxing had a UFC style promotions these would be it.

Thanks for the reply.

One more question, so if you fought on the circuit, against Potter perhaps, a win/lose wouldn't go down on your record?

Correct.

bridportboxer wrote:I think they are not underground at all - anyone can watch a show - they have websites, they promote using posters, leaflets, radio etc. They bring in big names - Shavers, Tucker, Butterbean, most of which would have been in WORKED fights. As time goes on they will bring in bigger names, maybe prospects, use journeymen to build up there own stars. I think it is genuinely only a matter of time before there shows start getting more 'online' press. Whilst some boxers do fight on the circuit because they wouldn't get licensed, most other governing bodies in the world probably would license them - we are talking Bean because he is morbidly obese (always has been really apart from a couple of fights) and Potter because of his eye (which is fixed and obviously doesn't cause him problems) I don't know any others.
How long before UK pros start to switch, I am not talking about the big stars - but the small hall boxers that are only being paid in the hundreds. They can can good money on the circuit and at the same time raise the level of boxing.
From a fans perspective, I can watch 2 local lads having a scrap on a BBBofC licensed show, or I can watch Earnie Shavers in a exhibition bout, the always popular Butterbean, Witherspoon, etc., etc. I know which most would and are choosing at the moment.

I know, too, and I think you're spouting a load of presumptuous, non-boxing rubbish. If you think watching washed-up, half-blind, fat heavies is what MOST people would choose to watch, then those people - like you, clearly - are just not boxing fans.

oliverfennell wrote:

armageto wrote:

bridportboxer wrote:British Boxing Federation and European Boxing Federation - basically 'self regulated' is the way I see them , used to be known as 'unlicensed' but I think they are becoming more accepted as time goes on. Essentially they operate outside of the British Boxing Board of Control, but the rules are fairly similar, just no brain scans etc.
Mark Potter, good pro, good record - fought at the top level in England. Operates on the self regulated circuit and is very well respected on it.
If boxing had a UFC style promotions these would be it.

Thanks for the reply.

One more question, so if you fought on the circuit, against Potter perhaps, a win/lose wouldn't go down on your record?

Correct.

Thank you sir...........


One last thought on Potter, would it be worth is for a young, up and coming HW to fight him on one of these shows? Granted, it wouldn't go down on his record, but do you think it would help get his name out there to a whole different region?

One last thought on Potter, would it be worth is for a young, up and coming HW to fight him on one of these shows? Granted, it wouldn't go down on his record, but do you think it would help get his name out there to a whole different region?[/quote]

Good idea in theory, the only problem with that is the BBBC would probably suspend your license if you did that. Its against regulations even to spar with an unlicensed boxer without the board's say so. Its just a safeguard to protect against blood bourne diseases. Licensed pro's get blood tested every year whilst EBF BBF boxers dont have that protection.

demolitiondaley wrote:One last thought on Potter, would it be worth is for a young, up and coming HW to fight him on one of these shows? Granted, it wouldn't go down on his record, but do you think it would help get his name out there to a whole different region?

Good idea in theory, the only problem with that is the BBBC would probably suspend your license if you did that. Its against regulations even to spar with an unlicensed boxer without the board's say so. Its just a safeguard to protect against blood bourne diseases. Licensed pro's get blood tested every year whilst EBF BBF boxers dont have that protection.[/quote]

Thank you for the imsight sir and everyone that has voiced thier opinions on the matter.