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Most powerful lb4lb puncher ?
Posted: 16 Nov 2008, 11:38
by Finch
David Haye claims he is.
Obviouisly a complete nonesense claim, but who do you think is the most powerful lb4lb puncher in world boxing ?
Re: Most powerful lb4lb puncher ?
Posted: 16 Nov 2008, 11:40
by Dioufy
There's a few like Pavlik, Lopez, Cintron, Cloud, Pacquiao and Peter but I will plump for Haye - he's knocked out a lot of his opponents and they've not been bums too. The manner of some of them have been awesome as well - Enzo, Mormeck, Monte and Gurov, amongst others. He seems to want to fight the best too, and to be doing that and knocking them out is amazing.
Re: Most powerful lb4lb puncher ?
Posted: 16 Nov 2008, 11:51
by hitman_hatton1
i actually think haye is the biggest puncher p4p.
been thinking that for a while actually.
mega ton right hand.
left hook ain't bad either is it.

Re: Most powerful lb4lb puncher ?
Posted: 16 Nov 2008, 13:17
by black panther
Dioufy wrote:The manner of some of them have been awesome as well - Enzo, Mormeck, Monte and Gurov, amongst others.
But the thing is Gurov and Enzo could both be classed as chinny so knocking them out in brutal fashion doesn't say too much IMO. Don't think Haye has quite carried his power up with him despite ko'ing Monte either. Having said that he's up there with regards to power p4p I suppose but for no.1 I'd go for Edwin Valero.....
Re: Most powerful lb4lb puncher ?
Posted: 16 Nov 2008, 13:19
by glahn
Finch wrote:David Haye claims he is.
Obviouisly a complete nonesense claim, but who do you think is the most powerful lb4lb puncher in world boxing ?
Why is it a "complete nonsense claim"? It seems like a very plausible claim to me.
Re: Most powerful lb4lb puncher ?
Posted: 16 Nov 2008, 13:30
by Loftgroov
Perhaps its Breidis Prescott.
Re: Most powerful lb4lb puncher ?
Posted: 16 Nov 2008, 13:49
by stujones
Pure puncher - Haye, Velero, De Leon,
Re: Most powerful lb4lb puncher ?
Posted: 16 Nov 2008, 14:01
by Kronkpride
PacMan can bang hard and on a P4P level I say it is no contest compared with Haye.
Re: Most powerful lb4lb puncher ?
Posted: 16 Nov 2008, 14:09
by mike john
Kronkpride wrote:PacMan can bang hard and on a P4P level I say it is no contest compared with Haye.
i think its every bit close enough to contest. on this sort of level, were only talking about a few degrees either way
Re: Most powerful lb4lb puncher ?
Posted: 16 Nov 2008, 14:44
by mark thompson
mike john wrote:Kronkpride wrote:PacMan can bang hard and on a P4P level I say it is no contest compared with Haye.
i think its every bit close enough to contest. on this sort of level, were only talking about a few degrees either way
kronkpride talks out of his arse at the best of times

Re: Most powerful lb4lb puncher ?
Posted: 16 Nov 2008, 15:00
by Dioufy
black panther wrote:Dioufy wrote:The manner of some of them have been awesome as well - Enzo, Mormeck, Monte and Gurov, amongst others.
But the thing is Gurov and Enzo could both be classed as chinny so knocking them out in brutal fashion doesn't say too much IMO. Don't think Haye has quite carried his power up with him despite ko'ing Monte either. Having said that he's up there with regards to power p4p I suppose but for no.1 I'd go for Edwin Valero.....
I used them as examples really - there's plenty more I could've called on. It's was just the way he took Gurov and Macca out - pretty devastating doesn't tell you it all. The Johansen and Fragomeni stoppages were half-decent as well. I know he had to break them down, as he did with Mormeck but when he stepped it up they fell. I think that's testimont to his power. I am also impressed that the two times he has stepped up in weight two brutal knockouts have occurred in pretty sensational fashion too.
I also forgot about Valero - he stands a very decent chance as well.
Re: Most powerful lb4lb puncher ?
Posted: 16 Nov 2008, 15:07
by Chambers2
David Haye
Edwin Valero
Rafael Marquez
De Leon
Cintron
Re: Most powerful lb4lb puncher ?
Posted: 16 Nov 2008, 15:18
by REAL_DEAL
Juan Manuel Lopez
Re: Most powerful lb4lb puncher ?
Posted: 16 Nov 2008, 15:22
by Old bones Ian
Juan Manuel Lopez has got to be up there, but i can see Haye being one of the hardest lb4lb as well.
Couple of young guys looking to come through Victor Ortiz, Marcos Rene Maidana,
Re: Most powerful lb4lb puncher ?
Posted: 16 Nov 2008, 15:45
by Kronkpride
mark thompson wrote:mike john wrote:Kronkpride wrote:PacMan can bang hard and on a P4P level I say it is no contest compared with Haye.
i think its every bit close enough to contest. on this sort of level, were only talking about a few degrees either way
kronkpride talks out of his arse at the best of times

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Re: Most powerful lb4lb puncher ?
Posted: 16 Nov 2008, 15:49
by mark thompson
how do i stalk you ? you fool i was merely pointing out that most of your posts are utter bollocks

Re: Most powerful lb4lb puncher ?
Posted: 16 Nov 2008, 15:54
by banjo
The most powerful P4P puncher talk is just as bad as P4P lists themselves, it's all down to opinion isn't it?
There was talk in the 90's about McClellan being the most powerful puncher P4P but when you look at his record and see his victims the only ones worth a mention are Jackson and Mugabi.
Ultimately it all depends on your personal opinion.
Re: Most powerful lb4lb puncher ?
Posted: 16 Nov 2008, 15:54
by Kronkpride
mark thompson wrote:how do i stalk you ? you fool i was merely pointing out that most of your posts are utter bollocks

Please wipe the skid residue off your nose before commenting again

Re: Most powerful lb4lb puncher ?
Posted: 16 Nov 2008, 15:57
by Kronkpride
banjo wrote:The most powerful P4P puncher talk is just as bad as P4P lists themselves, it's all down to opinion isn't it?
There was talk in the 90's about McClellan being the most powerful puncher P4P but when you look at his record and see his victims the only ones worth a mention are Jackson and Mugabi.
Ultimately it all depends on your personal opinion.
That is right Banjo. I made a mistake commenting on this thread as I always stay away from the P4P shit. I think Manny is a beast though as far as power goes. If he carries it all the way to 154 and rocks out DLH I wouldn't be suprised.
Re: Most powerful lb4lb puncher ?
Posted: 16 Nov 2008, 15:58
by mark thompson
Kronkpride wrote:mark thompson wrote:how do i stalk you ? you fool i was merely pointing out that most of your posts are utter bollocks

Please wipe the skid residue off your nose before commenting again

Why have you got shit skids in your pant,

Re: Most powerful lb4lb puncher ?
Posted: 16 Nov 2008, 16:01
by Kronkpride
I was assuming that I'm not the only guy you are stalking and that I am well ahead of the personal hygiene curve of those who you actually manage to launder for. Odds are you have shit on your nose 1 way or the other.

Re: Most powerful lb4lb puncher ?
Posted: 16 Nov 2008, 16:06
by mark thompson
Kronkpride wrote:I was assuming that I'm not the only guy you are stalking and that I am well ahead of the personal hygiene curve of those who you actually manage to launder for. Odds are you have shit on your nose 1 way or the other.

GET A LIFE MATE

Re: Most powerful lb4lb puncher ?
Posted: 16 Nov 2008, 20:00
by DG.
Kronkpride wrote:I was assuming that I'm not the only guy you are stalking and that I am well ahead of the personal hygiene curve of those who you actually manage to launder for. Odds are you have shit on your nose 1 way or the other.

He was staalking me for a while, he is OK now that he is trying to bottom you!

Re: Most powerful lb4lb puncher ?
Posted: 17 Nov 2008, 16:38
by Finch
glahn wrote:Finch wrote:David Haye claims he is.
Obviouisly a complete nonesense claim, but who do you think is the most powerful lb4lb puncher in world boxing ?
Why is it a "complete nonsense claim"? It seems like a very plausible claim to me.
Because it can't be proved. Sorry, i didn't mean it was nonesense he thinks he is, just the idea of hardest lb4lb puncher is nonesense.
Re: Most powerful lb4lb puncher ?
Posted: 17 Nov 2008, 17:11
by whiskey
Juanma has been ferocious of late against top class opponents.
De Leon is no mug and had never been down as amateur or professional -- and he got positively scorched in the first by the Puerto Rican.
THAT Ko against De Leon :-
http://www.livefight.com/forum/index.php?topic=3954.0
Lopez vs Figueroa :-
http://www.livefight.com/forum/index.php?topic=4696.0