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KHAN AND PACMAN WORKING WITH ROACH
Posted: 18 Nov 2008, 07:31
by ROB E
Wanted to share these great photos of Khan and Pacman working with Freddy Roach in preparation for their December 6th fights.
http://www.diamondboxing.com/newsstory.php?list=5025
Re: KHAN AND PACMAN WORKING WITH ROACH
Posted: 18 Nov 2008, 07:55
by Chambers2
Cheers
Anyone fancy Pacman to outwork and outpoint DLH?? You can get 7/2 on a Manny points win with Betfred
Re: KHAN AND PACMAN WORKING WITH ROACH
Posted: 18 Nov 2008, 08:15
by Wales
None of them sparring
Pacquiao Training With Khan
Posted: 21 Nov 2008, 05:24
by ROB E
Khan and Pacquiao training at the Wild Card Gym video
http://www.diamondboxing.com/index.php
Re: Pacquiao Training With Khan
Posted: 21 Nov 2008, 09:57
by sweetscience
good little video there of Pac traingin but i didnt see khan
Re: Pacquiao Training With Khan
Posted: 21 Nov 2008, 10:39
by terminator
sweetscience wrote:good little video there of Pac traingin but i didnt see khan
Khan on the pads with Roach:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8l6VQcUVEa0
Re: Pacquiao Training With Khan
Posted: 21 Nov 2008, 11:32
by bennie
When Oscar De La Hoya revealed to the world a few months ago that he was fighting Manny Pacquiao, the world - well, the boxing world - coughed and spluttered, shook its head, reeled, and finally spoke. "Why is a former world middleweight champion fighting a current world lightweight champion?" Good question.
Oscar is bored, that's why.
The 35-year-old with the Colgate smile and The Golden Boy tag is a shrewd, hard businessman who already has enough money tucked away - safely tucked away - to shore up any pending American collapse in the dollar, and he collects another $15 million for this one (minimum), which he will plough into gold or something. Anyway, another few million always comes in handy for a man with a dazzling Puerto Rican wife, but Oscar fights fights because he wants to fight, because he wants the fire in his belly, a feeling he is clearly unable to generate from his role as one of boxing's leading promoters.
He wants to get in there.
Of course getting in there with someone like Antonio Margarito, the monster of a welterweight who could easily move up and accommodate De La Hoya at his natural light-middleweight, or the slick and powerful Shane Mosley, a man who has already beaten him twice, or the young, unbeaten and dangerous WBC welterweight champion Andre Berto, appeals neither to Oscar's boredom nor his business head. He is not that bored. He got away with belting little Steve Forbes around for 12 rounds earlier this year in his native California, a former IBF super-featherweight champion, and something must have 'pinged' in his head and now he gets in there with little Pacquiao, on December 6 in Las Vegas, a man who actually turned pro at light-flyweight (that is not a misprint).
Pacquiao is a great boxer, don't get me wrong. The southpaw Filipino, known as the Bruce Lee of boxing, is quick and sharp and at 5ft 6ins (Oscar is 5ft 10ins) he has shown in the past he knows how to break up bigger opponents, such as Marco Antonio Barrera, Erik Morales, Oscar Larios and Nedal Hussein, and he comes off a brilliant 10-round destruction of Chicago's gutsy David Diaz for the WBC lightweight title.
He has also been sparring with the 5ft 10ins Amir Khan.
Trouble is, Pacquiao's pasting of Diaz in Las Vegas in June was his first ever fight at lightweight, after three years at super-featherweight, where he licked Morales and Larios, two years at featherweight, where he licked Barrera, five years at super-bantamweight, where he licked Hussein - need I go on? Or back. Pound for pound, 29-year-old Manny is probably the best figher in the world but he takes on De La Hoya up at 147lbs - at welterweight - and that really is stretching the whole poundage thing.
I thought Manny looked a little chubby faced in the build-up as he desperately bulks up, while De La Hoya is looking lean and mean and so much bigger, boiling down, of course. Oscar was down to welterweight by mid-November and will enjoy a real advantage in strength on the night to match all the physical advantages he will enjoy in natural weight, size and reach, including a six inch reach advantage. Moreover, Pacquiao has struggled in the recent past with an unheralded Mexican stylist by the name of Juan Manuel Marquez, a smooth-boxing, sharp-hitting, punch-picking, long-armed stylist very much in the De La Hoya mould who looked desperately unlucky to drop a split decision to Pacquiao earlier this year in Las Vegas. It was a fight De La Hoya promoted, a super-featherweight fight.
De La Hoya struggled himself with an unheralded German stylist by the name of Felix Sturm back in June 2004 in Vegas but he came through on a unanimous decision and picked up the WBO belt in the process - the WBO middleweight belt. He also fought Bernard Hopkins at the weight two years later, one of the greatest middleweights of all time, and his three fights since have occurred at light-middleweight, one of them a dazzling six-round stoppage of Nicaraguan wild man Ricardo Mayorga. He hasn't had far to boil down.
Anyway, you're getting the point about the size difference but this is a scary match and the point needs making, over and over. On such a theme, Freddie Roach, Pacquiao's trainer, has barked a whole series of bold predictions to the press favouring his man (Pacquiao has said virtually nothing) and seems to be genuinely irked by the presence of 87-year-old Angelo Dundee in Team De La Hoya, but every time one looks at it one sees big welterweight vs small lightweight - a mismatch, as simple as that, and over 12 rounds, too.
A good big 'un always beats a good little 'un.
Re: Pacquiao Training With Khan
Posted: 21 Nov 2008, 12:24
by Coco
Your prediction is??
Khan and Pacman sparring
Posted: 24 Nov 2008, 06:28
by terminator
Many ppl on here were laughing at the thought of Khan sparring the Pacman at the Wildcard gym.
There is some footage of him sparring with the Pacman in the 2nd episode of the 24/7 series for the Pacman-DLH fight
http://www.nowboxing.com/?p=1009
Re: Khan and Pacman sparring
Posted: 24 Nov 2008, 09:15
by bbjc
impressed with khan certainly seemed to hold his own in the brief footage.
Worry for how paquiou is going to handle de la hoya's strength
These 24/7 programmes really are different class builds more interest for the fans
Khan sparring Pacquiao
Posted: 24 Nov 2008, 16:15
by Asterix
Early on in the second episode of De La Hoya vs Pacquiao 24/7, there is a short clip of Khan sparring Pacquiao. It looks good, and it looks like they really go for it.
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=NOU44009
Re: Khan sparring Pacquiao
Posted: 24 Nov 2008, 16:26
by jammidodger
have you got a link to episode 1?
Re: Khan sparring Pacquiao
Posted: 24 Nov 2008, 16:33
by Coco
Sparring with the likes of Pac will do Khan the world of good, he needs to be taken out of his comfort zone
Re: Khan sparring Pacquiao
Posted: 24 Nov 2008, 16:52
by Asterix
Coco wrote:Sparring with the likes of Pac will do Khan the world of good, he needs to be taken out of his comfort zone
Yep. I'm really glad they're not wrapping him in cotton wool at all. I think Roach should also offer $1,000 to anyone who can knock down Khan, like he does with Pacquiao.
jammidodger wrote:have you got a link to episode 1?
Unfortunately that video has now been removed. I'll PM you a link to download it though.
Re: Khan sparring Pacquiao
Posted: 24 Nov 2008, 16:59
by MightyWarrior
Yep amazing experience for Khan, worth a fortune. Roach says they go all out, only rule is don't finish the other guy if you hurt him, and a cash reward if you KD The Pacman.
Re: Khan sparring Pacquiao
Posted: 24 Nov 2008, 17:03
by whiskey
Re: Khan sparring Pacquiao
Posted: 24 Nov 2008, 17:14
by Asterix
Yeah, I checked Live Fight.
I'm going to get round to watching the Garay, Taylor and Bute fights eventually.
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Re: Khan sparring Pacquiao
Posted: 24 Nov 2008, 17:17
by whiskey
Re: Khan sparring Pacquiao
Posted: 24 Nov 2008, 17:27
by whiskey
Re: Khan sparring Pacquiao
Posted: 25 Nov 2008, 17:16
by DG.
Coco wrote:Sparring with the likes of Pac will do Khan the world of good, he needs to be taken out of his comfort zone
But sparring wth 30oz gloves means nothing!
( I am joking they can't be 30oz..can they?)
