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Boxing Monthly Dec edition.

Posted: 25 Nov 2008, 10:35
by stujones
I thought it was good this week, nice to see they got the Haye stuff in..... a good editorial also. I agree with Glyn's assessment on the Jones vs Joe fight - in addition to his prediction of a prime vs prime fight. Thought the dig about the ring belt was unecessary - the fight itself was enough of a con job. It would have been refreshing to have seen it focus on the over hype the US and UK TV stations did of the fight, rather than on the belt that was on the line.

Bunce column was an enjoyable read, although I cannot help but think in his pieces is all he really saying is "I can get a press pass and you cannot nah, nah, nah, nah, nah"

Re: Boxing Monthly Dec edition.

Posted: 25 Nov 2008, 10:36
by DG.
stujones wrote:I thought it was good this week, nice to see they got the Haye stuff in..... a good editorial also. I agree with Glyn's assessment on the Jones vs Joe fight - in addition to his prediction of a prime vs prime fight. Thought the dig about the ring belt was unecessary - the fight itself was enough of a con job. It would have been refreshing to have seen it focus on the over hype the US and UK TV stations did of the fight, rather than on the belt that was on the line.

Bunce column was an enjoyable read, although I cannot help but think in his pieces is all he really saying is "I can get a press pass and you cannot nah, nah, nah, nah, nah"

You got your copy today?

Mine should be at home when I return!

:D

Re: Boxing Monthly Dec edition.

Posted: 25 Nov 2008, 10:40
by stujones
I've searched high and low and I still cannot find my Nov copy.

Re: Boxing Monthly Dec edition.

Posted: 25 Nov 2008, 10:47
by Autobarn
What did Glyn write about Calzaghe-Jones? Always like reading the editorials in BM.

Re: Boxing Monthly Dec edition.

Posted: 25 Nov 2008, 10:52
by stujones
Autobarn wrote:What did Glyn write about Calzaghe-Jones? Always like reading the editorials in BM.
In a nutshell - said Jones would have whooped Calzaghe in his prime..... said that the fight was "most desceptive fight ever"..... said Joe was extremely disrespective to a legend.... Said that the claim that the Ring belt is the most credible is a bit of a joke considering it is owned by a fighter!

Re: Boxing Monthly Dec edition.

Posted: 25 Nov 2008, 10:56
by Old bones Ian
Well Joe is a bit of a legend himself really, and it could be said that Jones Jnr was very disrespectful to alot of boxers when he was in his prime.
Showboating is part of boxing, love or hate it. personally i can't stand it.

Re: Boxing Monthly Dec edition.

Posted: 25 Nov 2008, 11:00
by stujones
Old bones Ian wrote:Well Joe is a bit of a legend himself really, and it could be said that Jones Jnr was very disrespectful to alot of boxers when he was in his prime.
Showboating is part of boxing, love or hate it. personally i can't stand it.
The actual article on the fight, shares much of the same view.

Re: Boxing Monthly Dec edition.

Posted: 25 Nov 2008, 17:53
by Captain Hook
stujones wrote:
Old bones Ian wrote:Well Joe is a bit of a legend himself really, and it could be said that Jones Jnr was very disrespectful to alot of boxers when he was in his prime.
Showboating is part of boxing, love or hate it. personally i can't stand it.
The actual article on the fight, shares much of the same view.

It's a good article, agreed JC would have had his arse handed to him by Jones 10 years ago......like everyone else did.

He did showboat, but a lot of the guys he did it against - Telesco and Toney for example - deserved it. He was awesome.....sadly it's been tainted by the drugs theory.

Re: Boxing Monthly Dec edition.

Posted: 25 Nov 2008, 17:54
by fatton
stujones wrote:It would have been refreshing to have seen it focus on the over hype the US and UK TV stations did of the fight, rather than on the belt that was on the line.
Good point, I found it depressing how many non boxing fans I knew seemed to think it was the fight of the century and were all convinced this was a "must see" fight with Calzaghe taking on the superstar that is (as opposed to was) Roy Jones. The sport badly needs some new blood but it's still relying on the likes of Jones, Hopkins, De La Hoya, Mosley, Winky Wright and Barrera to see PPV in the U.S. and to get mainstream media coverage. To be honest I think Golden Boy need to take a lot of the blame, making up for the fact that their not bringing through enough new talent by recycling the faded legends.

Re: Boxing Monthly Dec edition.

Posted: 26 Nov 2008, 04:37
by DG.
Great issue!

Calzaghe
Jones
Haye
Froch
Pascal
Etc

Gwaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn, Glyn!


Any chance of a years free subscription? I have not missed an issue for 20 years.


I am Legend!

:D

Re: Boxing Monthly Dec edition.

Posted: 26 Nov 2008, 04:53
by Old bones Ian
The reason most people thought that Calzaghe was facing a prime Jones Jnr was the fact that Jones Jnr was never really seen by the masses over here when he was in his prime.

I don't think 1 of his fights was shown by ITV or BBC

Re: Boxing Monthly Dec edition.

Posted: 26 Nov 2008, 04:55
by Poncey
Old bones Ian wrote:The reason most people thought that Calzaghe was facing a prime Jones Jnr was the fact that Jones Jnr was never really seen by the masses over here when he was in his prime.

I don't think 1 of his fights was shown by ITV or BBC
Woods v RJJ was on BBC2 on Sunday Grandstand. Not sure if it was the day after or week after though.

Re: Boxing Monthly Dec edition.

Posted: 26 Nov 2008, 07:54
by Autobarn
I'm glad he ripped Calzaghe. Calzaghe gets an injection of self esteem, in the post Jones-is-God era, and then goes off on indulgent ego trip.

A lot of ppl will have thought Calzaghe did a massive achievement, and so these kind of things need saying. Maybe he could have looked toward some kind of positive as well - perhaps as an alternative - i.e. recent big happenings at the super bantam and the super fly divisions.

Re: Boxing Monthly Dec edition.

Posted: 26 Nov 2008, 08:18
by stujones
Old bones Ian wrote:The reason most people thought that Calzaghe was facing a prime Jones Jnr was the fact that Jones Jnr was never really seen by the masses over here when he was in his prime.

I don't think 1 of his fights was shown by ITV or BBC
Jones vs Woods, Tarver 1 and Johnson were shown on the BBC.

Re: Boxing Monthly Dec edition.

Posted: 26 Nov 2008, 08:50
by Wrists
Funny Stu how you come on here championing a negative piece written about Calzaghe - go figure!!!

Would be interesting to see whether you would have done if Mr Leach had waxed lyrical??

Showboating - get over it, seem to remember a certain Roy Jones indulging in plenty in his time

You reap what you sow................

Kevin

Re: Boxing Monthly Dec edition.

Posted: 26 Nov 2008, 09:00
by dondada
Mini-poll.

How many times out of ten would a prime Jones have beaten a prime Calzaghe?

I'll say...nine. Oh, bollocks, ten.

Re: Boxing Monthly Dec edition.

Posted: 26 Nov 2008, 09:01
by jamesmcdonnell
Ten....Calazaghe wouldn't have gotten near him. He struggled to land flush on an old bastard like Hopkins - he'd never have got near a lightning fast Jones.

Re: Boxing Monthly Dec edition.

Posted: 26 Nov 2008, 09:09
by Wrists
Appreciate him while he is still here boys cos the well is pretty dry once he packs in

Re: Boxing Monthly Dec edition.

Posted: 26 Nov 2008, 09:24
by dondada
Wrists wrote:Appreciate him while he is still here boys cos the well is pretty dry once he packs in
Oh, I do. Great time to be a British boxing fan.

Re: Boxing Monthly Dec edition.

Posted: 26 Nov 2008, 09:27
by Poncey
Ten of ten for a RJJ win.

Re: Boxing Monthly Dec edition.

Posted: 26 Nov 2008, 09:29
by Wrists
If me brother was a split arse he would be my sister.............
If Mike Ashley was a decent human being NUFC would not be in the mess it is.......
If I was better looking I would have attracted Cheryl Cole before Ashley did.....

Bla bla bla bla bla

Kevin

Re: Boxing Monthly Dec edition.

Posted: 26 Nov 2008, 09:36
by dondada
stujones wrote:I cannot help but think in his pieces is all he really saying is "I can get a press pass and you cannot nah, nah, nah, nah, nah"
This simply isn't true, Stu.

Wazza excepted, I CAN get a press pass. :lol:

Re: Boxing Monthly Dec edition.

Posted: 26 Nov 2008, 09:39
by dondada
Wrists wrote:If me brother was a split arse he would be my sister.............
If Mike Ashley was a decent human being NUFC would not be in the mess it is.......
If I was better looking I would have attracted Cheryl Cole before Ashley did.....

Bla bla bla bla bla

Kevin
Why don't you contribute to my mini-poll, Kevin. Pretty please. What's your fornicating answer?

Re: Boxing Monthly Dec edition.

Posted: 26 Nov 2008, 09:46
by jamesmcdonnell
Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:
stujones wrote:I cannot help but think in his pieces is all he really saying is "I can get a press pass and you cannot nah, nah, nah, nah, nah"
This simply isn't true, Stu.

Wazza excepted, I CAN get a press pass. :lol:
Let's face it, Wazza aside, it's not really that difficult to get a press pass.....he's the exception that proves the rule. I managed to get one a few months back, even though it was quite a while since I'd covered a fight.

Re: Boxing Monthly Dec edition.

Posted: 26 Nov 2008, 10:17
by dondada
jamesmcdonnell wrote:
Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:
stujones wrote:I cannot help but think in his pieces is all he really saying is "I can get a press pass and you cannot nah, nah, nah, nah, nah"
This simply isn't true, Stu.

Wazza excepted, I CAN get a press pass. :lol:
Let's face it, Wazza aside, it's not really that difficult to get a press pass.....he's the exception that proves the rule. I managed to get one a few months back, even though it was quite a while since I'd covered a fight.
Yes, but you might very well have actually been covering one! Stu's point, I suppose, was that 99.9% of people wouldn't be and therefore wouldn't qualify...

Then again, most of the press section at most big fights have absolutely no intention of covering anything either.