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Re: ricky hatton

Posted: 25 Nov 2008, 11:57
by WildWaylon
Nigel Benn, Eubanks, Barry Mac, Lennox, John Conteh and Bruno were all top men for pulling the crowds but I would say Hatton probably beats the lot, just an opinion I really dont know. For an all British fight Benn/Eubanks has to be top of the list, but Calzage/Froch (if Froch gets the title) would more than likely eclipse that.

Re: ricky hatton

Posted: 25 Nov 2008, 12:06
by mark thompson
WildWaylon wrote:Nigel Benn, Eubanks, Barry Mac, Lennox, John Conteh and Bruno were all top men for pulling the crowds but I would say Hatton probably beats the lot, just an opinion I really dont know. For an all British fight Benn/Eubanks has to be top of the list, but Calzage/Froch (if Froch gets the title) would more than likely eclipse that.

No way would Calzaghe v Froch be bigger than Eubank v Benn, Froch is not a house hold name and still wont be even if he wins a major belt

Re: ricky hatton

Posted: 25 Nov 2008, 12:17
by mark thompson
boxrec wrote:
mark thompson wrote:
WildWaylon wrote:Nigel Benn, Eubanks, Barry Mac, Lennox, John Conteh and Bruno were all top men for pulling the crowds but I would say Hatton probably beats the lot, just an opinion I really dont know. For an all British fight Benn/Eubanks has to be top of the list, but Calzage/Froch (if Froch gets the title) would more than likely eclipse that.

No way would Calzaghe v Froch be bigger than Eubank v Benn, Froch is not a house hold name and still wont be even if he wins a major belt
He's not a household name yet. But he has potential. If he had a fight against calzaghe and won, he'd be well known.
Obviously then he would be, but Froch isn't known to the general public like Calzaghe, Eubank or Benn. Eubank v Benn was big fighter v big fighter, Calzaghe v Froch would be big fighter v potentially big fighter, Froch is only big in Notts.

Re: ricky hatton

Posted: 25 Nov 2008, 12:25
by mark thompson
boxrec wrote:I think because of the success of recent brits like Calzaghe, Hatton and Haye perhaps more casuals are looking out for the "next generation" of superstars. And Froch would have to be the one with the best potential at this moment in time.

we keep saying this word potential but he's 31 isn't he, so when is he going to realize his potential, and you say next generation well at 31 he isnt the next generation is he, if he wins the title or at this rate even fights for it how many defenses will he make before he retires ?

Re: ricky hatton

Posted: 25 Nov 2008, 12:39
by mark thompson
sg1985 wrote:
boxrec wrote:
sg1985 wrote:calzaghe was 25


lol ok, Froch could be the English version of Calzaghe (or a poor mans version)
calzaghe was born in england lol

lol Froch is no version of Calzaghe :TU:

Re: ricky hatton

Posted: 25 Nov 2008, 13:33
by Spud
sg1985 wrote:theres been alot of talk about the draw power ricky hatton has

is he the biggest draw in british boxing history? what about boxing history? has anyone ever been able to draw fans like him?

i dont remember anyone being able to do it, but i dont remember much pre 1990 lol
no boxer in history of boxing in this country comes close to Hatton - like him or loathe him - he has done fantastically well and all credit to him.

Re: ricky hatton

Posted: 25 Nov 2008, 13:44
by Loynesy
Spud wrote:
sg1985 wrote:theres been alot of talk about the draw power ricky hatton has

is he the biggest draw in british boxing history? what about boxing history? has anyone ever been able to draw fans like him?

i dont remember anyone being able to do it, but i dont remember much pre 1990 lol
no boxer in history of boxing in this country comes close to Hatton - like him or loathe him - he has done fantastically well and all credit to him.
I'd have a fairly sizeable bet that more people watched Henry Cooper than Ricky Hatton. In any event, he'd certainly come close....

Re: ricky hatton

Posted: 25 Nov 2008, 15:37
by dboxer9
Loynesy wrote:
Spud wrote:
sg1985 wrote:theres been alot of talk about the draw power ricky hatton has

is he the biggest draw in british boxing history? what about boxing history? has anyone ever been able to draw fans like him?

i dont remember anyone being able to do it, but i dont remember much pre 1990 lol
no boxer in history of boxing in this country comes close to Hatton - like him or loathe him - he has done fantastically well and all credit to him.
I'd have a fairly sizeable bet that more people watched Henry Cooper than Ricky Hatton. In any event, he'd certainly come close....
Hey Old Henry was a national treasure but there's no way he drew the fans quite like Ricky does. I can't think of a fighter anywhere on the planet who takes so many fans with him on his travels as Ricky does. Even fighting Americans in Las Vegas he has almost complete support from the fans. It's phenominal has well Hatton is supported by his fans. I only wish I had the money to join in the fun.

Re: ricky hatton

Posted: 25 Nov 2008, 15:49
by DG.
sg1985 wrote:
boxrec wrote:
sg1985 wrote:calzaghe was 25


lol ok, Froch could be the English version of Calzaghe (or a poor mans version)
calzaghe was born in england lol

Hammersmith, same as DG!

:D

Re: ricky hatton

Posted: 25 Nov 2008, 16:49
by Wax On
Ask the average man in the street who Carl Froch is and they'll have no idea. I reckon most wouldn't have known much about David Haye too until recently.

Everyone knows Amir Khan because of the Olympics, but credit to Hatton he's gained national appeal because of his achievements and the personality he portrays.

Cooper was popular because of the 'Our Henry', people's friend image and the same thing is the reason Hatton is so popular amongst the masses. I.e. working class, family guy, speak to anyone etc etc

They haven't become cynical about him yet too!

Re: ricky hatton

Posted: 25 Nov 2008, 19:55
by WildWaylon
Wax On wrote:Ask the average man in the street who Carl Froch is and they'll have no idea. I reckon most wouldn't have known much about David Haye too until recently.

Everyone knows Amir Khan because of the Olympics, but credit to Hatton he's gained national appeal because of his achievements and the personality he portrays.

Cooper was popular because of the 'Our Henry', people's friend image and the same thing is the reason Hatton is so popular amongst the masses. I.e. working class, family guy, speak to anyone etc etc

They haven't become cynical about him yet too!
Splash it on all over.

Re: ricky hatton

Posted: 25 Nov 2008, 20:39
by hitman_hatton1
boxrec wrote:Hattons definitely winning over fans aswell as casual tv viewers. His fights are usually high tempo, great action. And the best thing about him is that he can take a beating. Alot of other fighters look as if they are there for the money and fame, but hatton is a real fighter and fights like a proper fighter too.

Froch could be interesting. To be honest i haven't seen much of him. I've heard some people don't like him for some reason, but he looks ok to me.
hatton turns up to fight.

no bullshit.

that's why he's a legend.

:bow:

Re: ricky hatton

Posted: 26 Nov 2008, 13:35
by Crease
Hatton is porbably THE most popular boxedr in British history... (as there aren't any other Biritish boxers around his weight that the street-man would know).

Prince Naz was popular, but he never drew the crowd that Hatton does nowadays... :TU:

And Joe Calzaghe might be more succesful that Ricky, but he's not "a lad" who likes to booze like everyone else... :shame:

Re: ricky hatton

Posted: 26 Nov 2008, 14:01
by banjo
Hatton has the sort of personality that appeals to the masses which makes him very popular.

Fighters like Naz and Eubank were loathed as much as they were loved and a lot of people paid to watch them in the hope of seeing them sparked out, they always played the part of the villain.

Benn was also a fighter who had his share of haters but I think his "kill or be killed" approach to fights made him more popular than Naz and Eubank.

Re: ricky hatton

Posted: 26 Nov 2008, 14:18
by chesh
I think we're forgetting Big Frank here. Perhaps not as popular as Hatton, but Bruno certainly had a good following. A fair number of Brits travelled across the pond in '96 for the second Tyson fight (when Bruno was champ).

Re: ricky hatton

Posted: 26 Nov 2008, 20:12
by observer1
Naz certainly played a big part in the luring the modern-day Fans. The Same Modern Day Fans that will take intrest in Hatton.

Benn, Eubank and Bruno certainly were popular too.

Re: ricky hatton

Posted: 26 Nov 2008, 20:39
by Coco
sg1985 wrote:
chesh wrote:I think we're forgetting Big Frank here. Perhaps not as popular as Hatton, but Bruno certainly had a good following. A fair number of Brits travelled across the pond in '96 for the second Tyson fight (when Bruno was champ).
i dont remember anyone hating bruno, everyone i knew loved him. i saw a couple of his early nineties fights the other day the man was built like a brick shithouse, where ever there couldve been muscle on a man he had it and alot
A pal of mine was over for it, one of the first times there was a big Brit invasion really. A few thousand turned out for the weigh in which was unheard of and the whole crowd was chanting Tyson is a rapist, the Yanks didn't know what to make of it or what to do.