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Hayes next Heavyweight opponent should be......
Posted: 30 Nov 2008, 11:50
by stujones
Alexander Dimitrenko - size wise is comparable to the Klitchsko's, pocesses similar characteristics, is athletic and can be vulnerable - doesn't carry the destructive power of Vitali and Wlad.
And is highly ranked by ALL of the ranking bodies - including #1 WBO.
Its got to be Hayes next outing surely.
Re: Hayes next Heavyweight opponent should be......
Posted: 30 Nov 2008, 11:56
by Dioufy
Kevin Johnson or Chris Arreola, but neither will probably happen, especially the latter.
Re: Hayes next Heavyweight opponent should be......
Posted: 30 Nov 2008, 11:59
by stujones
Why Kevin Johnson - isn't a ranked fighter with no chance of winning the whole point of Bonin and Barratt - how many of these does he need to take on.
Arreola looks okay, he'd be a threat of sorts.
Re: Hayes next Heavyweight opponent should be......
Posted: 30 Nov 2008, 12:01
by Dioufy
He has a nice record, and is someone who won't trouble Haye too much I don't think. Plus they could get him over in the UK to fight - that wouldn't happen with Dimitrenko, thus making that fight unfeesable. And it's always nice to knock out overhyped Yanks.
Kevin Johnson WBA#5.
Re: Hayes next Heavyweight opponent should be......
Posted: 30 Nov 2008, 12:04
by stujones
Dioufy wrote:He has a nice record, and is someone who won't trouble Haye too much I don't think. Plus they could get him over in the UK to fight - that wouldn't happen with Dimitrenko, thus making that fight unfeesable. And it's always nice to knock out overhyped Yanks.
I agree that Johnson would have been good, possibly a little better, than Barratt for November - I just don't think he is the right path if he is serious about a summer fight with the Klitchsko's.
Regarding Dimitrenko -yes, I know what you mean about not fighting in the UK - but maybe Dimitenko is ambitious enough to break the mold and take on Haye in the 02.... anyway, maybe Haye will be fighting the Klitchsko's in Germany - so maybe he'll need to get used to the German crowd.
Re: Hayes next Heavyweight opponent should be......
Posted: 30 Nov 2008, 12:09
by Dioufy
I severely doubt Klaus-Peter Kohl will let Dimitrenko (one of his best prospects) come over here for a fight that isn't even for a world title. I also severely doubt that Haye would risk his shot of Vitali/Wlad by coming to Germany. But perhaps I will be wrong.
Re: Hayes next Heavyweight opponent should be......
Posted: 30 Nov 2008, 12:19
by Phenomenal-Nutrition
I agree he would be the best opponent if it can be made. Maybe someone coming off a loss at a crossroads with no fight like Peter, Virchis or Ruiz, if he does a number on any of those his reputation goes through the roof
Re: Hayes next Heavyweight opponent should be......
Posted: 30 Nov 2008, 12:31
by Autobarn
If Dimitrenko is WBO #1 contender he and his promoters aren't going to risk that. And there's little chance that he would risk his rating, and come to England as well.
Dimitrenko will probably do bugger all, and wait until Wlad gets beaten or hope that Wlad vacates. However long it takes, I would expect nothing more than for Dimitrenko to sit idle on his ranking.
I never rated Dimitremko anyway. He's looked horrid most of his career until he landed that body shot on Krasniqui.
Re: Hayes next Heavyweight opponent should be......
Posted: 30 Nov 2008, 12:33
by Autobarn
How about Arreola? Exciting, just won a war last night, in a fight that saw him hurt and down. Arreola's quite fat, and he will probably look slow next to Haye. Yes, Arreola has some power and some workrate, but he showed enough vulnerabilities last night...
Re: Hayes next Heavyweight opponent should be......
Posted: 30 Nov 2008, 12:33
by Phenomenal-Nutrition
Wouldn't be a bad 1 Auto but like Dimitrenko he isn't likely to get him
Re: Hayes next Heavyweight opponent should be......
Posted: 30 Nov 2008, 14:04
by Dioufy
If there is a fight in between the clash with one of the Klitschko's then I can only see it being someone with a similar build to them - I think that rules out Peter and Ruiz. I also can't see Haye travelling to a different country too, so that probably rules out Dimitrenko and Arreola. If I had to go with someone then it would be someone of the ilk of Johnson and Chapman. I may sound stupid here but if Golata's injury heals in the next few months then do you guys think it would be a good barometer for the Klitschko's?
Perhaps even Audley if he gets past Rogan?
Re: Hayes next Heavyweight opponent should be......
Posted: 30 Nov 2008, 15:00
by Bentley23
Alexander Povetkin for the right to fight for a title!
Re: Hayes next Heavyweight opponent should be......
Posted: 30 Nov 2008, 15:13
by jameswilson
Sam Peter.
Jameel McCline.
The winner of Thompson v Toney.
Chris Arreola.
Id be happy with any of those. I did think Id be happy with Maskaev but I aint so sure now, as people have pointed out, he is well rated but it would be an easy fight as Maskaev is old and tires quickly now.
People may be suprised that Iv put McCline in there. He's coming off a win, is well rated and is someone who is difficult to KO, he hasn't been properly stopped since Wlad in 2002. Also at 6ft6 he is a big lump too.
Re: Hayes next Heavyweight opponent should be......
Posted: 30 Nov 2008, 15:47
by boxerbob
how about the big punching lamon brewster??...his fight was cancelled last night vs seldon so he could be ready in march
Re: Hayes next Heavyweight opponent should be......
Posted: 30 Nov 2008, 17:14
by sweetscience
im a big fan of haye, but if he wants to fight the best surely he should fight and beat a legit top 5 contender first
cause what is the point of him fighting 'bums' just for a shot, i prefer he fights him and beats him, not just fight him for fighting him sake.
id prefer haye to be around for a while cause we have fornicate all brits coming throu at the moment
Re: Hayes next Heavyweight opponent should be......
Posted: 30 Nov 2008, 19:36
by el_grande_mauro_mina
stujones wrote:Alexander Dimitrenko - size wise is comparable to the Klitchsko's, pocesses similar characteristics, is athletic and can be vulnerable - doesn't carry the destructive power of Vitali and Wlad.
And is highly ranked by ALL of the ranking bodies - including #1 WBO.
Its got to be Hayes next outing surely.
I agree it would be an excellent opponent for Haye, Stu - but getting him out of Germany would cost some serious cash - with the weak dollar expect to see more American imports coming over here to be knocked around. (Like Michael Sprotts last opponent - when was it the last time you saw an American import for a 6 rounder? Probably not since the end of the Lawless/Duff/Barrett cartel)
Re: Hayes next Heavyweight opponent should be......
Posted: 30 Nov 2008, 19:42
by jameswilson
Carlos-Wigan wrote:stujones wrote:Alexander Dimitrenko - size wise is comparable to the Klitchsko's, pocesses similar characteristics, is athletic and can be vulnerable - doesn't carry the destructive power of Vitali and Wlad.
And is highly ranked by ALL of the ranking bodies - including #1 WBO.
Its got to be Hayes next outing surely.
I agree it would be an excellent opponent for Haye, Stu - but getting him out of Germany would cost some serious cash - with the weak dollar expect to see more American imports coming over here to be knocked around. (Like Michael Sprotts last opponent - when was it the last time you saw an American import for a 6 rounder? Probably not since the end of the Lawless/Duff/Barrett cartel)
For sure, and also with Dimitrenko now being no1 WBO there isn't a cat in hells chance of him being put in with anyone risky. He will sit on that ranking and just fight your journeymen until he gets the shot at Wlad.
Re: Hayes next Heavyweight opponent should be......
Posted: 30 Nov 2008, 20:09
by stujones
jameswilson wrote:Sam Peter.
Jameel McCline.
The winner of Thompson v Toney.
Chris Arreola.
Id be happy with any of those. I did think Id be happy with Maskaev but I aint so sure now, as people have pointed out, he is well rated but it would be an easy fight as Maskaev is old and tires quickly now.
People may be suprised that Iv put McCline in there. He's coming off a win, is well rated and is someone who is difficult to KO, he hasn't been properly stopped since Wlad in 2002. Also at 6ft6 he is a big lump too.
Peter and McCline have tasted defeat and have that "losers" mentality that Barratt had, so to does Thompson (should he beat Toney).... Toney could be a goer but if he looks good against Thompson can see him going for the big man (Valuev) instead of a warm up for a title.
Arreola out of those lot.
Re: Hayes next Heavyweight opponent should be......
Posted: 01 Dec 2008, 06:29
by MightyWarrior
Autobarn wrote:How about Arreola? Exciting, just won a war last night, in a fight that saw him hurt and down. Arreola's quite fat, and he will probably look slow next to Haye. Yes, Arreola has some power and some workrate, but he showed enough vulnerabilities last night...
Yes Arreola would be excellent, think he'd appear to be punching in slow mo with Haye - top ranked by the IBF now, apparently, so very unlikely to take on Haye right now I guess.
Here's 3 minutes of mayhem from his fight at the weekend.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=jw89z4UEpkM
Re: Hayes next Heavyweight opponent should be......
Posted: 01 Dec 2008, 06:35
by DavidPayne
Haye would stop him in a minute. And I'm rarely so melodramatic but he's awful.
Re: Hayes next Heavyweight opponent should be......
Posted: 03 Dec 2008, 05:15
by ra2006
I know it would'nt happen, but I would like to see him against one of the warren boys in a domestic dust up.
I would like to see him against Audley. If decent Audley decides turn up to use his undoubted skills and not stick his chin out then I think it would be great preperation for the Wlad match up. However, I think Audley would be despatched within 9 rounds.
Re: Hayes next Heavyweight opponent should be......
Posted: 03 Dec 2008, 05:18
by Old bones Ian
When is Haye next out?
Re: Hayes next Heavyweight opponent should be......
Posted: 03 Dec 2008, 05:27
by Old bones Ian
If Skelton wins the Euro title, then i wouldn't mind seeing him take on Haye