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The Last Time You Were As Excited About A Fight As Haye-Klit

Posted: 16 Dec 2008, 12:14
by Herol
I've followed this sport for around 11 years.

This is by far the most exciting fight ever in that time, so I can't really think of a more exciting prospective fight ever.

Re: The Last Time You Were As Excited About A Fight As Haye-Klit

Posted: 16 Dec 2008, 12:15
by Chambers2
Herol wrote:I've followed this sport for around 11 years.

This is by far the most exciting fight ever in that time, so I can't really think of a more exciting prospective fight ever.
Me either :D

Re: The Last Time You Were As Excited About A Fight As Haye-Klit

Posted: 16 Dec 2008, 12:16
by mark thompson
Hatton vs Pacman, unlike Hatton v Mayweather i think Hatton has a genuine chance .

Re: The Last Time You Were As Excited About A Fight As Haye-Klit

Posted: 16 Dec 2008, 12:20
by Herol
Come to think of it, I've always considered Haye to be the most exciting active fighter, because of his skill, power, take on all comers attitude, ability to go down in fights and come back, the way he carries himself when things go wrong like his interview after Thompson. I am realising that I can't really think of anybody in history who was as exciting with the possible exceptions of Nigel Benn & Muhammad Ali.

Re: The Last Time You Were As Excited About A Fight As Haye-Klit

Posted: 16 Dec 2008, 12:20
by Hagler2002
This fight doesn't excite me at all, its a mismatch!

Re: The Last Time You Were As Excited About A Fight As Haye-Klit

Posted: 16 Dec 2008, 12:21
by Herol
mark thompson wrote:Hatton vs Pacman, unlike Hatton v Mayweather i think Hatton has a genuine chance .
With you there but Haye taking the heavyweight title from Klit is much bigger. Pac is essentially a natural featherweight.

Re: The Last Time You Were As Excited About A Fight As Haye-Klit

Posted: 16 Dec 2008, 12:21
by Herol
Hagler2002 wrote:This fight doesn't excite me at all, its a mismatch!
Nah! Klit does have a chance! :P

Re: The Last Time You Were As Excited About A Fight As Haye-Klit

Posted: 16 Dec 2008, 12:24
by adamiw
Barrera-Morales 2 is probably the most excited i've been, although it didn't live up to the very high expectations that the first battle set

I am excited about this fight, but i'd probably be more excited if David was facing the other brother....yes the more boring Klitschko, but i'd see that as a pick'em fight....here i see Vitali as a clear (yet not overwhelming) favourite

Re: The Last Time You Were As Excited About A Fight As Haye-Klit

Posted: 16 Dec 2008, 12:24
by mark thompson
Herol wrote:
mark thompson wrote:Hatton vs Pacman, unlike Hatton v Mayweather i think Hatton has a genuine chance .
With you there but Haye taking the heavyweight title from Klit is much bigger. Pac is essentially a natural featherweight.

Yeah but Klit is very ring rusty, 1 fight in about 4 years :o ,

Re: The Last Time You Were As Excited About A Fight As Haye-Klit

Posted: 16 Dec 2008, 12:25
by Chambers2
Hagler2002 wrote:This fight doesn't excite me at all, its a mismatch!
eh don't right off Vitalis chances he's a tough old bugger

Re: The Last Time You Were As Excited About A Fight As Haye-Klit

Posted: 16 Dec 2008, 12:26
by Counter-puncher
Herol wrote:
mark thompson wrote:Hatton vs Pacman, unlike Hatton v Mayweather i think Hatton has a genuine chance .
With you there but Haye taking the heavyweight title from Klit is much bigger. Pac is essentially a natural featherweight.
'natural featherweight' who comes into the ring weighing 148lbs?

thats a pretty big featherweight......

Re: The Last Time You Were As Excited About A Fight As Haye-Klit

Posted: 16 Dec 2008, 12:26
by whicker
To be honest, I'm not excited. We would all like to think that david can find that "magic punch" and connect with the jaw and knock Klit out, but I honestly can't see it happening. a boring, fight in which Haye is totally dominated and pulls out during the later rounds seems likley. I mean- I'd love to be proved wrong, but can't see it.

Re: The Last Time You Were As Excited About A Fight As Haye-Klit

Posted: 16 Dec 2008, 12:26
by Hagler2002
Herol wrote:
Hagler2002 wrote:This fight doesn't excite me at all, its a mismatch!
Nah! Klit does have a chance! :P
Look what happened when Haye got hit on the chin against Barrett, and look how many shots it took to get him out of there, then take a look at the shots Lennox Lewis landed on the button when he fought Vitali and he didn't budge, taking this into account along with the height, reach & approximately 2 stone weight advantage I only see one outcome and that is a Klitschko KO

Re: The Last Time You Were As Excited About A Fight As Haye-Klit

Posted: 16 Dec 2008, 12:30
by Herol
Counter-puncher wrote:
Herol wrote:
mark thompson wrote:Hatton vs Pacman, unlike Hatton v Mayweather i think Hatton has a genuine chance .
With you there but Haye taking the heavyweight title from Klit is much bigger. Pac is essentially a natural featherweight.
'natural featherweight' who comes into the ring weighing 148lbs?

thats a pretty big featherweight......
If he had purely aimed to box at his highest level, then he'd still be at feather/super-feather IMO. I'm not saying he isn't a fantastic fighter at lightweight, but his moves have been money/legacy orientated, as they always are. Naturally his OPTIMUM should be lower.

Re: The Last Time You Were As Excited About A Fight As Haye-Klit

Posted: 16 Dec 2008, 12:33
by Counter-puncher
i'm not sure mate, to me if he is walking around at 150-155 (sounds reasonable?) then the draining to get down to 126/130 would mean it isn't his optimum weight. to me his activity/ punch output upped a little bit as soon as he went to 135, didnt' have those lulls in output (tho its difficult to judge from 1 fight)

Re: The Last Time You Were As Excited About A Fight As Haye-Klit

Posted: 16 Dec 2008, 12:38
by MightyWarrior
Yeah nice fight, but much as I like Haye, unfortunately he has NO chance here.

Sure Haye has a decent punch, but no harder than Lewis, or the Sanders left hook for instance. He's going in with just about the toughest heavyweight proposition out there: iron chin, big punch - a massive giant who's an intelligent & very crafty fighter to boot.

Once Haye gets clipped, he's so vunerable his game plan goes straight out the window, as we saw in the Barrett fight. Vitali will be hurting him with jabs...no wonder he's jumped at this fight.

Looks like the chess playing Klitchkos have check mated DH here - the Wlad fight was a winnable fight for Haye, but somehow he's ended up with big bruv instead...

Re: The Last Time You Were As Excited About A Fight As Haye-Klit

Posted: 16 Dec 2008, 12:41
by Asterix
Herol wrote:If he had purely aimed to box at his highest level, then he'd still be at feather/super-feather IMO. I'm not saying he isn't a fantastic fighter at lightweight, but his moves have been money/legacy orientated, as they always are. Naturally his OPTIMUM should be lower.
I disagree. He has always been huge at whatever weight until fighting De La Hoya. He has naturally gained weight as he's got older and trying to combat that would have been detrimental to him.

Re: The Last Time You Were As Excited About A Fight As Haye-Klit

Posted: 16 Dec 2008, 13:51
by Captain Hook
Herol wrote:I've followed this sport for around 11 years.

This is by far the most exciting fight ever in that time, so I can't really think of a more exciting prospective fight ever.
You're not serious?!

The most exciting fight in 11 years? A lumbering giant who is ring rusty v our own little upstart in the heavyweight division.

Love Haye to bits, and yes he is exciting, but this is not the most exciting fight since 1997.

What about Holyfield v Lewis? Morales v Barrera? Even Mayweather v Hatton was a more exciting prospective battle. What about the build-up to Calzaghe and Kessler? Naz v Barrera?

I appreciate your enthusiasm though :D

Re: The Last Time You Were As Excited About A Fight As Haye-Klit

Posted: 16 Dec 2008, 14:38
by Asterix
I was very excited for Calzaghe vs Kessler. :TU:

I don't think there's currently a fighter I really feel for at the moment, so I'm generally just watching because I enjoy boxing, not because I'm emotionally attached to one of the fighters. Actually, I was sad about Cotto, Mijares and Pavlik losing this year. They're 3 fighters I really enjoying watching when they're winning.

I am excited about Haye vs Klitschko. Maybe a 7/10 at the moment. It will no doubt increase with a good build up.

Re: The Last Time You Were As Excited About A Fight As Haye-Klit

Posted: 16 Dec 2008, 14:41
by Captain Hook
Asterix wrote:I was very excited for Calzaghe vs Kessler. :TU:

I don't think there's currently a fighter I really feel for at the moment, so I'm generally just watching because I enjoy boxing, not because I'm emotionally attached to one of the fighters. Actually, I was sad about Cotto, Mijares and Pavlik losing this year. They're 3 fighters I really enjoying watching when they're winning.

I am excited about Haye vs Klitschko. Maybe a 7/10 at the moment. It will no doubt increase with a good build up.
Yeah, me too....

not being facetious because fair play to Herol, it will be a big fight and I don't want to knock anyone's enthusiasm of the sport - there are so few of us :)

Nice to get a mention off Bunce on Setanta the other night though boys! He said he is often on here arguing with us?! What's his username?

Re: The Last Time You Were As Excited About A Fight As Haye-Klit

Posted: 16 Dec 2008, 14:43
by banjo
Captain Hook wrote:
Asterix wrote:I was very excited for Calzaghe vs Kessler. :TU:

I don't think there's currently a fighter I really feel for at the moment, so I'm generally just watching because I enjoy boxing, not because I'm emotionally attached to one of the fighters. Actually, I was sad about Cotto, Mijares and Pavlik losing this year. They're 3 fighters I really enjoying watching when they're winning.

I am excited about Haye vs Klitschko. Maybe a 7/10 at the moment. It will no doubt increase with a good build up.
Yeah, me too....

not being facetious because fair play to Herol, it will be a big fight and I don't want to knock anyone's enthusiasm of the sport - there are so few of us :)

Nice to get a mention off Bunce on Setanta the other night though boys! He said he is often on here arguing with us?! What's his username?
Really? I know he posts over at Doghouse but I didn't know he was here.

Re: The Last Time You Were As Excited About A Fight As Haye-Klit

Posted: 16 Dec 2008, 15:04
by Gray-Fox
Hatton-Mayweather is the fight I've been most excited for.

Then probably Jones-Ruiz.

Then probably Naz-Barrera...

Then probably Lewis-Tyson

Re: The Last Time You Were As Excited About A Fight As Haye-Klit

Posted: 16 Dec 2008, 15:13
by Bentley23
Vic vs arce


haye is ganna get a beat down

Re: The Last Time You Were As Excited About A Fight As Haye-Klit

Posted: 16 Dec 2008, 17:11
by Hagler2002
Haye video interview regarding the Vitali fight

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/7785715.stm

Re: The Last Time You Were As Excited About A Fight As Haye-Klit

Posted: 16 Dec 2008, 17:45
by KO Artist
Haye will need all his speed and more guile than he has ever had to go the distance in this fight to win a decision.

However the most probable outcome is that after outfoxing Vitali for 5 rounds, Haye gets tired after so much movement, Vitali lands a few and leaves Haye in a crumpled heap around the sixth.

I hope I am wrong. The fight will be a great night out for London Boxrec members.

Haye is a natrual warrior and he has avoided no one. He has done it alone and he and Adam Booth have done the best possible job in managing his career.

But Vitali is so freaking tough and determined, and this added to his physical advantages and power spell curtains for David.

If Haye can keep moving and land frequently enough he might keep Vitali honest. Apart from a decision Haye's only hope is a cuts win.

If I were to have a bet I can see this fight being similar to Vitali's win over the prime Hide and Haye are very similar fighters.

Good luck Haye.