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British P4P 2008
Posted: 20 Dec 2008, 14:53
by DuranTheGreat
1) Joe Calzaghe - Whether you love him or hate him...... He's proved that he is a true Britsh boxing legend
2) Haye - Took control of the Cruiserweight divison, and has scared the heavyweghts.
3) Hatton - After a bit of a battering against PFP, he came back to prove he's the best at Light Welter
4)Carl Froch - Wins world title in a GREAT fight
5)Nicky Cook - Simply for winning a world title.
6) Kevin Mitchell - Good win over Johanneson, and is WBO champ.
7)Darren Barker - Proved to everyone that he's a real prospect, and, shoud go on to win the European title in '09
8) Rendall Munroe - Good year, best in Europe at his weight
9)Ian Napa - Won the European title, should have a good '09.
10)Martin Rogan - Made a real impact this year....... Prizefighter champ and put an end to Audley
Your views................
Merry Christmas all!

Re: British P4P 2008
Posted: 20 Dec 2008, 15:21
by Dioufy
Can I ask why you've said Mitchell is the WBO champion when you alluded that, in fact, Cook was?
Re: British P4P 2008
Posted: 20 Dec 2008, 15:48
by Spud
1 - Ricky Hatton
2 - Joe Calzaghe
3 - Carl Froch - He deserves to be here!!!
4 - David Haye
5 - Clinton Woods - He will prove he is still world class on 14 Feb 09
6 - Enzo Maccarinelli
7 - Nicky Cook
8 - Matt Skelton
9 - Rendall Munroe
10 - Ian Napa
And I think Ryan Rhodes will be pushing the top 10 by the end of March!!!

Re: British P4P 2008
Posted: 20 Dec 2008, 16:08
by Spud
Whoops nearly forgot him - keep an eye on Kell Brook - if he keeps his discipline outside of the ring for me Mr W arrens most exciting fighter!!!
Re: British P4P 2008
Posted: 20 Dec 2008, 16:21
by DG.
DuranTheGreat wrote:1) Joe Calzaghe - Whether you love him or hate him...... He's proved that he is a true Britsh boxing legend
2) Haye - Took control of the Cruiserweight divison, and has scared the heavyweghts.
3) Hatton - After a bit of a battering against PFP, he came back to prove he's the best at Light Welter
4)Carl Froch - Wins world title in a GREAT fight
5)Nicky Cook - Simply for winning a world title.
6) Kevin Mitchell - Good win over Johanneson, and is WBO champ.
7)Darren Barker - Proved to everyone that he's a real prospect, and, shoud go on to win the European title in '09
8) Rendall Munroe - Good year, best in Europe at his weight
9)Ian Napa - Won the European title, should have a good '09.
10)Martin Rogan - Made a real impact this year....... Prizefighter champ and put an end to Audley
Your views................
Merry Christmas all!

No Witter?
Witter should be at Number 5 on achievement alone.
You can not Cook - Mitchell and the others above Witter.
Napa should be at 6.
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Re: British P4P 2008
Posted: 20 Dec 2008, 16:25
by twenty six
I really rate Darren Barker, but can't see his three fights in 2008 warrant him being put in a top ten list.
Before you say anything I aint putting an argument forward for Rhodes but facts are facts.
Barker won the commonwealth and defended it once with a non title fight between.
Rhodes won the British, defended it, and won the WBC International.
Rogan does not deserve a place either.
Re: British P4P 2008
Posted: 20 Dec 2008, 16:29
by twenty six
Let's just get something clarified as well.
Michell - is only the WBO Intercontinental holder, which is comparative to one of Nobby Nobbs lads only losing on points.
Re: British P4P 2008
Posted: 20 Dec 2008, 16:53
by Horse
DuranTheGreat wrote:2) Haye - Took control of the Cruiserweight divison, and has scared the heavyweghts.
3) Hatton - After a bit of a battering against PFP, he came back to prove he's the best at Light Welter
Why have you not put Ricky Hatton and David Haye's first names up? And what does PFP stand for?
DuranTheGreat wrote:6) Kevin Mitchell - Good win over Johanneson, and is WBO champ.
As others have said: He is not the WBO champ.
DuranTheGreat wrote:10)Martin Rogan - Made a real impact this year....... Prizefighter champ and put an end to Audley
Far too high, in my opinion.
Re: British P4P 2008
Posted: 20 Dec 2008, 16:54
by Dioufy
Spud, I don't know how you can put Froch above Haye, I really can't.
Re: British P4P 2008
Posted: 20 Dec 2008, 17:30
by states
Is this meant to be an overall career p4p ranking for British fighters, or a p4p ranking for the last 12 months?
Re: British P4P 2008
Posted: 20 Dec 2008, 18:30
by Spud
Dioufy wrote:Spud, I don't know how you can put Froch above Haye, I really can't.
IMO after David beats Vitali he will cement his place at the very top!!!
And in addition he would have to be at the very top of the top 10 P4P rankings of British fighters ever produced.
So lets be patient with his ranking!!!

- just a few more months to wait!!!
Re: British P4P 2008
Posted: 20 Dec 2008, 18:37
by Dioufy
I agree if he beats Vitali then he'll be near the top, if not there, but at the moment I would still rank Haye's achievements (Mormeck, Frago, Macca, Barrett) above Froch's (Pascal, Magee, Reid), at this precise moment in time, mate.
Oh, and I think David's stopping Vitali too. I know some folk may laugh at my prediction but Haye's going to beat him with speed, and he's going to beat him well. Then he will be right up there next to Calzaghe as Britain's best ever boxer.
Re: British P4P 2008
Posted: 20 Dec 2008, 19:00
by Horse
Dioufy wrote:Oh, and I think David's stopping Vitali too. I know some folk may laugh at my prediction but Haye's going to beat him with speed, and he's going to beat him well. Then he will be right up there next to Calzaghe as Britain's best ever boxer.
He becomes Britain's best/second best ever boxer for beating Vitali? I don't think so.
Vitali is not even the Champion, or the number one ranked fighter in the division.
Re: British P4P 2008
Posted: 20 Dec 2008, 19:10
by Dioufy
Isn't it ironic how you're having a go at my list, or rankings?
And I won't be going off just David's win over Vitali - he's had plenty of very good wins like Macca, Frago, Barrett and the best one, Mormeck, in France, after being decked. To move up and beat Vitali would top off an amazing run of wins, extraordinary in fact.
Re: British P4P 2008
Posted: 20 Dec 2008, 19:18
by brian13
1) Hatton
2) Haye
3) Calzaghe
4) Froch
5) Witter
6) Khan
7) Enzo
8 ) Munroe
9) Mitchell
10) Napa / Thaxton
Re: British P4P 2008
Posted: 20 Dec 2008, 19:20
by Dioufy
My list:
1# Joe Calzaghe
2# Ricky Hatton
3# David Haye
4# Carl Froch
5# Nicky Cook
6# Rendall Munroe
7# Ian Napa
8# Enzo Maccarinelli
9# Kevin Mitchell
10# John Murray
This is my overall list - I wasn't sure whether you were placing people on how they have done this year alone. If that's the case then I will be more than happy to create a new list, but other than that, this is my P4P British list as I see it now.
Re: British P4P 2008
Posted: 20 Dec 2008, 19:21
by brian13
DuranTheGreat wrote:8) Rendall Munroe - best in Europe at his weight
Not until he beats Maludrottu and Dunne
Re: British P4P 2008
Posted: 20 Dec 2008, 20:08
by Horse
Dioufy wrote:Isn't it ironic how you're having a go at my list, or rankings?
Not really.
Dioufy wrote:And I won't be going off just David's win over Vitali - he's had plenty of very good wins like Macca, Frago, Barrett and the best one, Mormeck, in France, after being decked. To move up and beat Vitali would top off an amazing run of wins, extraordinary in fact.
It would be a good run of wins and would likely get him into the then current world P4P top 10 rankings. But to say it would make him the best or second best British boxer of all time, is way off the mark in my opinion. Maybe he would make it into the top 10, but not the top 2.
If that is all it took to make it into the top two British boxers of all time, then I would have to say that historically British boxing has been a disgrace.
Re: British P4P 2008
Posted: 20 Dec 2008, 20:16
by Asterix
Dioufy wrote:My list:
1# Joe Calzaghe
2# Ricky Hatton
3# David Haye
4# Carl Froch
5# Nicky Cook
6# Rendall Munroe
7# Ian Napa
8# Enzo Maccarinelli
9# Kevin Mitchell
10# John Murray
This is my overall list - I wasn't sure whether you were placing people on how they have done this year alone. If that's the case then I will be more than happy to create a new list, but other than that, this is my P4P British list as I see it now.
Really good list. Why not Thaxton above Murray?
Re: British P4P 2008
Posted: 20 Dec 2008, 20:44
by observer1
Dioufy wrote:Spud, I don't know how you can put Froch above Haye, I really can't.
You obviously don't know him very well then
No offense Spud

Re: British P4P 2008
Posted: 21 Dec 2008, 01:29
by Dioufy
I can definitely see the argument for putting Thaxton above Murray, especially in terms of accomplishment, but in my opinion, I think Murray better and would beat Jono if they were ever to meet. I just think he's better, that's all I guess.
Re: British P4P 2008
Posted: 21 Dec 2008, 05:09
by SOUTHPAW
[quote="DuranTheGreat"]1) Joe Calzaghe - Whether you love him or hate him...... He's proved that he is a true Britsh boxing legend
2) Haye - Took control of the Cruiserweight divison, and has scared the heavyweghts.
3) Hatton - After a bit of a battering against PFP, he came back to prove he's the best at Light Welter
4)Carl Froch - Wins world title in a GREAT fight
5)Nicky Cook - Simply for winning a world title.
6) Kevin Mitchell - Good win over Johanneson, and is WBO champ.
7)Darren Barker - Proved to everyone that he's a real prospect, and, shoud go on to win the European title in '09
8) Rendall Munroe - Good year, best in Europe at his weight
9)Ian Napa - Won the European title, should have a good '09.
10)Martin Rogan - Made a real impact this year....... Prizefighter champ and put an end to Audley
Your views................
Merry Christmas all
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Re: British P4P 2008
Posted: 21 Dec 2008, 05:19
by twenty six
Maybe I've got this wrong.
I thought this was a P4P list based on 2008 performances only.
Right or wrong ?
Re: British P4P 2008
Posted: 21 Dec 2008, 06:45
by sweetscience
twenty six wrote:Maybe I've got this wrong.
I thought this was a P4P list based on 2008 performances only.
Right or wrong ?
no it will be or should be the same formatof any P4P list
Re: British P4P 2008
Posted: 21 Dec 2008, 07:17
by DuranTheGreat
Good to see that this has caused some kind of debate!
Well, I intended for it to be just for 2008, seeing as we're coming to the end of '08.
Right, I'ver thought about it......... and come up with a new list...............
1) Calzaghe
2) Haye
3) Hatton
4) Froch
5) Cook
6) Witter
7) Napa
8) Munroe
9) Brook
10) Thaxton
Missed out: Barker, Moore, Woods, Elcock, Rhodes..............
REMEMBER: It's just for 2008