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Muhammad Ali Had More Than Five Losses

Posted: 11 Jan 2009, 08:23
by Granberry's Ghost
Recorded Losses

Frazier

Norton

Spinks

Holmes

Berbick

Unrecorded Losses

Doug Jones

Second Frazier Match

Second Chuvalo Match

Second And Third Norton Matches

Second Spinkls Match

Alfredo Evangelista

Earnie Shavers

Jimmy Young

Second Bugner Match

Do you agree or disagree?

Re: Muhammad Ali Had More Than Five Losses

Posted: 11 Jan 2009, 08:39
by BoxBuzz
I love a good read of fiction now and again! Thanks for providing same! And Pseudonym's are not outlawed here. (yet).

However going back to the record books I notice that except for the first five you are in error according to the official record.

And of course there is always room for opinion as to past errors in judgment. E.G. Frazier and Jumbo Cummings....A goodbye gift to Frazier for turning in such a great and entertaining career.

Some of your examples can be somewhat defended as close fights and of course all decisions are based on judgment. The second Frazier fight is not really that close, (though I have always been thankful that the ref put the kabosh on Ali attempting and nearly succeeding in KO'ing Frazier in the early rounds, in order to preserve a great trilogy fight! not to mention that it would have cut the evening's festivities a bit short on that night.) Frazier had more than just Lady Luck in with him on that night!

And if "The One is Here" (who allows you to use his computer) were here I'm sure he would likely agree with me on this.

Re: Muhammad Ali Had More Than Five Losses

Posted: 12 Jan 2009, 01:23
by jaclem2
..jaclem2 takes this opportunity to tell granberry's ghost that the oriiginal jaclem is aware that he owes the original granberry that he....jaclem...owes grannberry a couple of personal messages and now both he and his computer are functioning better again and will start catching up.

Re: Muhammad Ali Had More Than Five Losses

Posted: 12 Jan 2009, 02:34
by Woller
What about the second Sonny LIston fight? Ali could have been disqualified.

Woller

Re: Muhammad Ali Had More Than Five Losses

Posted: 12 Jan 2009, 07:53
by Bricks
Granberry's Ghost wrote:Recorded Losses

Frazier

Norton

Spinks

Holmes

Berbick

Unrecorded Losses

Doug Jones

Second Frazier Match

Second Chuvalo Match

Second And Third Norton Matches

Second Spinkls Match

Alfredo Evangelista

Earnie Shavers

Jimmy Young

Second Bugner Match

Do you agree or disagree?

Someone ban this moron. I dont know how anyone except someone looking for trouble could claim that the second Spinks fight,the Shavers, bugner,evangelista, second frazier, and chuvalo fights could be seen as Ali losses.
:shame:

Re: Muhammad Ali Had More Than Five Losses

Posted: 12 Jan 2009, 09:55
by Jaywheel
If you ban him ZombieTerap will show up :roll:

Re: Muhammad Ali Had More Than Five Losses

Posted: 12 Jan 2009, 12:49
by observer1
Is this actually granberry? Or just another wind-up?

Because this guy seems more dellusional than gran, which i know, is quite hard, but still

Re: Muhammad Ali Had More Than Five Losses

Posted: 12 Jan 2009, 13:49
by elmersalsa
Whoever it is I think that the guy is entitled of his own opinions. I also see that Ali had more than 5 losses, but thanks to the stinking judges and the promoters like Don King, he was preserved more than he should have.

Re: Muhammad Ali Had More Than Five Losses

Posted: 12 Jan 2009, 15:21
by funso banjo baby
im still in the camp that says even if the champ does nothing...the other guy has to do more to win...not just the same or slightly less