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John
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

Post by John »

What is the point of us rating them in the wrong division ?
oogiebe
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

Post by oogiebe »

So someone like Oscar Rivas is unranked now in all divisions? Doesn't make sense.
candyslim
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

Post by candyslim »

John wrote: 18 Jan 2021, 09:06 What is the point of us rating them in the wrong division ?
How can you call it the wrong division when you don't recognize the "right one"? These guys are Heavyweights. Did they make it known they would like henceforth to be considered as Bridgerweights? Did anybody ask them? I don't know but I imagine the answer is "no" to both questions.

I doubt many have boiled down to make Bridgerweight either. This seems to be the pet project of the WBC furthering their noble aim of generating ever more sanctioning fees. Either recognize the division or continue to rate them as Heavyweights. Removing them from the rankings altogether strikes me as illogical. and the worst option available.

BoxRec has become an institution and the first port of call for boxing information, not just for fans but for anyone who needs/wants to know. I bet there's a lot of boxers who check their rating on BoxRec.
John
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

Post by John »

candyslim wrote: 20 Jan 2021, 02:51
How can you call it the wrong division when you don't recognize the "right one"? These guys are Heavyweights. Did they make it known they would like henceforth to be considered as Bridgerweights? Did anybody ask them? I don't know but I imagine the answer is "no" to both questions.
Then your imagination isn't very good :TU:
candyslim
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

Post by candyslim »

That may well be so but your stance still defies logic in my opinion. They are professional boxers and deserve recognition either as Bridgerweights, or if that division isn't worthy of consideration, then as Heavyweights. They haven't simply vanished from the sport.

That's my two penn'orth anyway, I shall say no more except to ask you how their preferences were made known? Did the WBC ask for volunteers and these fighters responded, and if so, how were you made aware?

Sorry if I'm being annoying.
potvain
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

Post by potvain »

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gregregegg
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

Post by gregregegg »

John wrote: 18 Jan 2021, 09:06 What is the point of us rating them in the wrong division ?
Put them in heavyweight, its not a wrong division... Are they pro boxers? Yes.>>Do they fight at over 200lb?Yes>>Then They are heavyweights. done.
WBC recognise them as bridgers, thats fine, WBC is wrong.
JCS
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

Post by JCS »

Very strange to not rate guys that haven't officially competed in a division that only one major commission recognizes when they can easily be categorized as Heavyweights.

WBC doesn't even list the division on their rankings.
ransomkenneth
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

Post by ransomkenneth »

Should list boxers by state also why I'm not listed as Promoter on boxrec
beastly12
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

Post by beastly12 »

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/855780
David Roberts
ID# 855780

Needs a profile picture update please.
Gorre17
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

Post by Gorre17 »

Until yesterday you can see the date of birth of all the fighters if you click on their profile, why that information can no longer be seen? should reappea, it makes no sense that they have deleted it, the information is incomplete now.
John
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

Post by John »

Gorre17 wrote: 17 Feb 2021, 14:05 Until yesterday you can see the date of birth of all the fighters if you click on their profile, why that information can no longer be seen? should reappea, it makes no sense that they have deleted it, the information is incomplete now.
Data protection GDPR https://gdpr-info.eu/
smandyoli
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

Post by smandyoli »

Good day.

I would like to suggest that boxers who last fought in 2019 should not be listed as inactive as most countries were on lockdown last year. Lockdown made it difficult for boxers to fight last year and punishing boxers for that is unfair.

Regards :witzend:
JxhDel.
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

Post by JxhDel. »

Great job on the new "Champion" page but I think it misses some infos (as difficult it can be updating all that mess).
mike1989
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

Post by mike1989 »

why did the designation disappear with such a symbol * of the fighters who will have battles ????
LaciLC
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

Post by LaciLC »

mike1989 wrote: 06 Mar 2021, 15:26 why did the designation disappear with such a symbol * of the fighters who will have battles ????
I want to ask the same as I think it was really helpful.
Boxinganthem
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

Post by Boxinganthem »

How come the D.O.B on boxers disappeared?
Controversial
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

Post by Controversial »

Boxinganthem wrote: 11 Mar 2021, 14:25 How come the D.O.B on boxers disappeared?
Data protection GDPR https://gdpr-info.eu/

Doesn't really make sense to me but this is why.
elvistorresjr
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

Post by elvistorresjr »

I would suggest Canelos picture should be displayed as Boxrec #1 in Light-Heavyweight and Middleweight categories on the champions page. If the boxrec title is a the man that beat the man type of championship designation I think it should display Alvarez as hes beaten the man in 3 divisions. If he losses a fight, then that guy becomes "The Man" in whatever division the fight is fought in, and the other weight classes can then go to the next best guy (Unified champ, or holder with best quality of record or boxrec points) or vacate. Just doesn't seem right clicking champions and seeing a pic of Kovalev as the man at 175 when he's coming off a KO loss and hasn't fought since... Not having the champions table with each fighters picture takes away the old feeling of seeing a row of one fighters face over-and-over, as clear visual dominance of who runs that division. Apologize if this has already been addressed
margaret thatcher
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

Post by margaret thatcher »

elvistorresjr wrote: 15 Mar 2021, 17:28 I would suggest Canelos picture should be displayed as Boxrec #1 in Light-Heavyweight and Middleweight categories on the champions page. If the boxrec title is a the man that beat the man type of championship designation I think it should display Alvarez as hes beaten the man in 3 divisions. If he losses a fight, then that guy becomes "The Man" in whatever division the fight is fought in, and the other weight classes can then go to the next best guy (Unified champ, or holder with best quality of record or boxrec points) or vacate. Just doesn't seem right clicking champions and seeing a pic of Kovalev as the man at 175 when he's coming off a KO loss and hasn't fought since... Not having the champions table with each fighters picture takes away the old feeling of seeing a row of one fighters face over-and-over, as clear visual dominance of who runs that division. Apologize if this has already been addressed
the boxrec titles arent the man who beat the man and a fighter can only be ranked in 1 division on boxrec
felinoboxing
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

Post by felinoboxing »

Hi .. Do you know sofifa? There ratings are given to soccer players. I think, it would be good to add search options similar to those that this site has. I would suggest adding the option to search for boxers by year of birth and to classify them in an age range. Can they do it in Boxrec?

It would be great to see the best under-25, under-23, under-20, or the best of those born in a specific year in the world according to an algorithm. They can do it?
Quanah
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

Post by Quanah »

I wonder if you could keep the daily results posted for a little longer? With my time zone, I often go to the results on the evening of any said day and 'results' have already moved on to the next day. Still today where I am, these results have already moved on to historical record.

Keeping the results on the page for another 24 hours ought to do it.

Thanks
pugilisticspecialist
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

Post by pugilisticspecialist »

On the champions page, if you click on a championship you should be taken to the page that shows the historical lineage of that title.

So if you clicked on "World Boxing Association World Heavy", you would be taken to: https://boxrec.com/en/title/41/Heavyweight

Also, while you should keep the divisions in order, the belts within each divison should be ordered by oldest first, since generally speaking, the older a title, the more prestigious. At the moment, the IBO heavyweight title (founded in 1993) is listed before the WBA heavyweight title (founded in 1964).
Siny
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

Post by Siny »

why are the boxers age and date of birth not on the boxer profiles anymore and can you put them back on.
candyslim
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

Post by candyslim »

I don't know if this is the same for everyone or just a glitch, but if I'm logged-on to the forum and I want to jump to the records database I find I'm not logged-on there, and I if I want full access I need to log-on again.

It's hardly a massive issue but it seems an unnecessary irritation which I could do without.
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