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MACCARINELLI/FRANCIS MARCH 14TH?
Posted: 30 Jan 2009, 05:09
by GlobalBox
According to Boxing News its a possible as Ramirez won't be ready in time.
I like Dean but I cannot see anyway he wins this fight, I am not sure to be honest he gets out of the first couple of rounds.
Anyone heard if this is on or not and whats your views guys, not quite sure how the WBO can sanction it for the interim title if thats what they do.
Re: MACCARINELLI/FRANCIS MARCH 14TH?
Posted: 30 Jan 2009, 05:42
by leforge
Cant see that happening.
Re: MACCARINELLI/FRANCIS MARCH 14TH?
Posted: 30 Jan 2009, 07:33
by Autobarn
Doesn't look good for Francis IMO. One of my fave ever British fighters, and I know he's won at cruiserweight.
It looked like he was being slowly supersceded by youg Cleverly, the old indirect route of Cleverly fringing his way on the domestic/Commonwealth scene with vacant titles - at light heavyweight. If they ever squared off, Cleverly would have the activity, the freshness, to poss win the fight.
Either that or be a WBO sacrifice for Maccarinelli. Mac's too big. But Francis is another fighter that I hope desperately puts Big Mac's lights out. Then again francis v Mac is better than Francis v Ayittey Powers 2.
Should Francis have taken that shot at Erdei?
Re: MACCARINELLI/FRANCIS MARCH 14TH?
Posted: 01 Feb 2009, 05:10
by whicker
GLOBALBOX wrote:According to Boxing News its a possible as Ramirez won't be ready in time.
So, as it stands possibly both the Macca and Khan fights (as scheduled) will be changed? Not sounding too good.

Re: MACCARINELLI/FRANCIS MARCH 14TH?
Posted: 01 Feb 2009, 05:43
by Abbo
Anyone got a link for this Rameriz story?
Re: MACCARINELLI/FRANCIS MARCH 14TH?
Posted: 01 Feb 2009, 06:10
by rhino222
whicker wrote:GLOBALBOX wrote:According to Boxing News its a possible as Ramirez won't be ready in time.
So, as it stands possibly both the Macca and Khan fights (as scheduled) will be changed? Not sounding too good.

how unusual for FW ....

Re: MACCARINELLI/FRANCIS MARCH 14TH?
Posted: 01 Feb 2009, 06:28
by gobbles
I read somewhere that they were lining up Ola Afolabi.
Re: MACCARINELLI/FRANCIS MARCH 14TH?
Posted: 01 Feb 2009, 07:48
by Asterix
Here we go. All the main fights are going to fall apart now.
Khan vs Barrera - Looking unlikely due to Barrera cut
Maccarinelli vs Ramirez - Looking unlikely due to Ramirez "not being ready"
Cook vs Martinez - Awaiting issue
Re: MACCARINELLI/FRANCIS MARCH 14TH?
Posted: 01 Feb 2009, 07:52
by Autobarn
So wait a minute, there has been no talk whatsoever of Macca-Francis?
Didn't know Afolabi had lost to Allan Green!
Re: MACCARINELLI/FRANCIS MARCH 14TH?
Posted: 01 Feb 2009, 08:06
by leforge
This is a joke Macca was meant to be fighting for the WBO title now an interim what a load of shite!
Re: MACCARINELLI/FRANCIS MARCH 14TH?
Posted: 01 Feb 2009, 09:47
by steve689
Is Rich LaMontagne available?
Re: MACCARINELLI/FRANCIS MARCH 14TH?
Posted: 01 Feb 2009, 09:58
by Max Molyneux
Enzo would easily beat Dean, Dean's shot and can barely use two arms to box.
Re: MACCARINELLI/FRANCIS MARCH 14TH?
Posted: 01 Feb 2009, 10:00
by Autobarn
How is he shot if he KO'd Oakey in one of the outstanding British fights of last year?
He's getting on a bit, is undersized, and somewhat one-armed - but not shot. Perhaps the Oakey fight was his last top performance.
Re: MACCARINELLI/FRANCIS MARCH 14TH?
Posted: 01 Feb 2009, 10:03
by steve689
I don't think Francis is shot but I always worry about his right shoulder. From experience (I have a constantly dislocating, recently pinned shoulder) you never fully recover from the sort of serious injuries that Dean has suffered.
Re: MACCARINELLI/FRANCIS MARCH 14TH?
Posted: 01 Feb 2009, 11:08
by DG.
Terence wrote:I would fancy Francis in this one.
I agree!

Re: MACCARINELLI/FRANCIS MARCH 14TH?
Posted: 01 Feb 2009, 11:16
by Max Molyneux
Autobarn wrote:How is he shot if he KO'd Oakey in one of the outstanding British fights of last year?
He's getting on a bit, is undersized, and somewhat one-armed - but not shot. Perhaps the Oakey fight was his last top performance.
A prime Francis would of easily beaten Oakey but he was struggling In a war with Tony until he started using his bad arm. The fact he can barely use It says he's a little shot and since he's struggling with guys he would of beaten In his prime much easier.
Re: MACCARINELLI/FRANCIS MARCH 14TH?
Posted: 01 Feb 2009, 12:25
by DG.
Terence wrote:DG. wrote:Terence wrote:I would fancy Francis in this one.
I agree!

Meds working then?


Re: MACCARINELLI/FRANCIS MARCH 14TH?
Posted: 01 Feb 2009, 16:26
by Autobarn
Max Molyneux wrote:Autobarn wrote:How is he shot if he KO'd Oakey in one of the outstanding British fights of last year?
He's getting on a bit, is undersized, and somewhat one-armed - but not shot. Perhaps the Oakey fight was his last top performance.
A prime Francis would of easily beaten Oakey but he was struggling In a war with Tony until he started using his bad arm. The fact he can barely use It says he's a little shot and since he's struggling with guys he would of beaten In his prime much easier.
Not sure if he would have won "easily." Workrate, pressure, strong sawn off guy is the style to trouble the classy, unhurried Francis even on his best day. As the exciting battle with Mark Baker proved.
I think with Francis winning Commonwealth and British titles by KO he's proven he's not shot. Francis been fighting exceptionally well under the circumstances (time out, problematic right arm).
Re: MACCARINELLI/FRANCIS MARCH 14TH?
Posted: 01 Feb 2009, 16:50
by Spud
GLOBALBOX wrote:According to Boxing News its a possible as Ramirez won't be ready in time.
I like Dean but I cannot see anyway he wins this fight, I am not sure to be honest he gets out of the first couple of rounds.
Anyone heard if this is on or not and whats your views guys, not quite sure how the WBO can sanction it for the interim title if thats what they do.
Absolutely awful fight - as good as Francis is, he would be bullied by Maccarinelli who only recently fought at "Heavyweight"!!!
Re: MACCARINELLI/FRANCIS MARCH 14TH?
Posted: 01 Feb 2009, 17:09
by Hagler2002
Yet another mis-match for Enzo!!!! to be fair he has had one competitive fight in his whole career and got his block knocked off within 2 rounds.
Re: MACCARINELLI/FRANCIS MARCH 14TH?
Posted: 01 Feb 2009, 19:41
by brian13
Francis should wait because Erdei would be easier
Re: MACCARINELLI/FRANCIS MARCH 14TH?
Posted: 01 Feb 2009, 21:07
by gobbles
DG. wrote:Terence wrote:I would fancy Francis in this one.
I agree!

Francis is an old super-middleweight with a bad shoulder, he'd have no chance.
Re: MACCARINELLI/FRANCIS MARCH 14TH?
Posted: 02 Feb 2009, 08:43
by mickeyb
It's not like Francis is a small LH - iirc he looked a good deal bigger than Oakey (admittedly not the biggest LH himself) when they shared a ring. And it's not like Enzo is a big cruiser either. Lanky, but not physically imposing.
Yes Dean is getting a little long in the tooth, and has a history of injuries, but he's a very sound boxer who should be able to avoid soaking up punishment, and ask a few questions of his own. As a late-ish replacement he's not too bad and, lets face it, Enzo has been in worse fights...
The big thing, and the real reason I think people are complaining, is that this bill is (allegedly) rapidly decending from a belter to another ho-hum SN card.
Re: MACCARINELLI/FRANCIS MARCH 14TH?
Posted: 02 Feb 2009, 13:52
by Autobarn
Ant Evans wrote:Francis was a good fighter... in 1997 as a super-middleweight.
I agree with this. But surely he's a good light heavy, as was proven last year...
Not sure if he'll be a good cruiser though, and the differences in freshness and size will likely be apparent early.
But Deano is a very nifty boxer, and I hope he can show Enzo a few things early on.
Re: MACCARINELLI/FRANCIS MARCH 14TH?
Posted: 02 Feb 2009, 14:00
by whicker
Is the original fight definatly off now? Poor Enzo.