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British Top 30 P4P February 2009

Posted: 31 Jan 2009, 20:05
by Horse
1. (1.) Joe Calzaghe
2. (2.) Ricky Hatton
3. (3.) David Haye
4. (4.) Carl Froch
5. (5.) Junior Witter
6. (6.) Clinton Woods
7. (7.) Nicky Cook
8. (8.) Enzo Maccarinelli
9. (9.) Jamie Moore
10. (10.) Rendall Munroe

11. (11.) Alex Arthur
12. (12.) Ian Napa
13. (13.) Matt Skelton
14. (14.) Kevin Mitchell
15. (15.) John Duddy (Irish)
16. (16.) Jonathan Thaxton
17. (17.) Amir Khan
18. (18.) Bernard Dunne (Irish)
19. (19.) Wayne Elcock
20. (22.) Kell Brook

21. (20.) Gavin Rees
22. (21.) Ryan Rhodes
23. (23.) Paul Appleby
24. (24.) Darren Barker
25. (NE.) John Murray
26. (25.) Paul McCloskey
27. (26.) Brian Magee
28. (27.) David Barnes
29. (28.) Dean Francis
30. (29.) Bradley Pryce

Out - (30.) Martin Lindsay

Re: British Top 30 P4P February 2009

Posted: 31 Jan 2009, 20:05
by Horse
Any comments, criticisms or P4P lists are very welcome.

Re: British Top 30 P4P February 2009

Posted: 31 Jan 2009, 21:00
by brian13
Mc Closkey is too low because he gave Lynes a big beating and Lynes was in the top 15 before he was beaten in Italy, Enzo is defintely before Cook, Calzaghe shouldn't be in the list because his future is very unclear, Rees should be lower and hasn't fought much recently

Re: British Top 30 P4P February 2009

Posted: 02 Feb 2009, 07:58
by Horse
brian13 wrote:Mc Closkey is too low because he gave Lynes a big beating and Lynes was in the top 15 before he was beaten in Italy,
Lynes was never in my top 15. Perhaps McCloskey should be higher, but I will have to wait until his next fight to alter his ranking.
brian13 wrote:Enzo is defintely before Cook,
Cook has got a title and Maccarinelli hasn't. Macca hasn't beaten anyone decent in 18 months, so he needs to beat a decent fighter before he climbs above Cook.
brian13 wrote:Calzaghe shouldn't be in the list because his future is very unclear,
His last fight was less than 3 months ago. Calzaghe stays in until he retires or is inactive for a considerable amount of time.
brian13 wrote:Rees should be lower and hasn't fought much recently
He is out of the top 20 now, so he is likely to fall a lot quicker than he was falling before.

Re: British Top 30 P4P February 2009

Posted: 02 Feb 2009, 08:35
by Cannibal
I'd have Skelton at 9 or 10. EBU champ and has fought and beat better domestic opposition than Munroe and Napa at least.

Re: British Top 30 P4P February 2009

Posted: 03 Feb 2009, 04:53
by danfoster
Would personally have Amir lower down.

Bonkers to say that Enzo should be higher than Cook ...

Re: British Top 30 P4P February 2009

Posted: 03 Feb 2009, 13:21
by Horse
Cannibal wrote:I'd have Skelton at 9 or 10. EBU champ and has fought and beat better domestic opposition than Munroe and Napa at least.
I will probably move him to about 9th or 10th next month, if he beats Rogan.

Re: British Top 30 P4P February 2009

Posted: 04 Feb 2009, 11:09
by Horse
danfoster wrote:Would personally have Amir lower down.
You are obviously entitled to your opinion, but I feel that Khan has beaten enough decent fighters to show that he should be in the top 20 region of the list, above the less experienced or inactive fighters below.
danfoster wrote:Bonkers to say that Enzo should be higher than Cook ...
I also disagree with that opinion.

Re: British Top 30 P4P February 2009

Posted: 04 Feb 2009, 11:33
by Captain Hook
I see everyone has noticed that you're flogging a dead.....

:TU:

Re: British Top 30 P4P February 2009

Posted: 04 Feb 2009, 11:34
by Horse
Captain Hook wrote:I see everyone has noticed that you're flogging a dead.....

:TU:
Care to explain?

Re: British Top 30 P4P February 2009

Posted: 04 Feb 2009, 11:37
by J
brook higher for me round 12

Re: British Top 30 P4P February 2009

Posted: 04 Feb 2009, 11:45
by stujones
J wrote:brook higher for me round 12
Potential is there, but I think there are fighters lower than 12 who have beaten better opponents. Skelton for example.

Re: British Top 30 P4P February 2009

Posted: 04 Feb 2009, 12:43
by Captain Hook
Horse wrote:
Captain Hook wrote:I see everyone has noticed that you're flogging a dead.....

:TU:
Care to explain?
You keep posting to rise your own list up the threads so people will read it and now i'm guilty of it as well....

Doh..... :witzend:

Re: British Top 30 P4P February 2009

Posted: 04 Feb 2009, 12:48
by Lenny
Captain Hook wrote:
Horse wrote:
Captain Hook wrote:I see everyone has noticed that you're flogging a dead.....

:TU:
Care to explain?
You keep posting to rise your own list up the threads so people will read it and now i'm guilty of it as well....

Doh..... :witzend:
How so?

Re: British Top 30 P4P February 2009

Posted: 04 Feb 2009, 13:02
by Captain Hook
You can bugger off!

Actually Horse, you still have Woods so high..why?

Re: British Top 30 P4P February 2009

Posted: 04 Feb 2009, 13:07
by metropol
rendall munroe seems way to high . He is never overly impressive and imo hasnt beaten any decent opposition

Re: British Top 30 P4P February 2009

Posted: 04 Feb 2009, 13:08
by Horse
stujones wrote:
J wrote:brook higher for me round 12
Potential is there, but I think there are fighters lower than 12 who have beaten better opponents. Skelton for example.
I agree with stujones. Brook has not yet beaten the opposition needed to claim a place that high. If he fights for the European title next, then he might have a shot at getting towards that high in the rankings.

Re: British Top 30 P4P February 2009

Posted: 04 Feb 2009, 13:12
by banjo
I nearly died while reading this thread.

Best P4P list on the net.

Keep it up Horse :TU:

Re: British Top 30 P4P February 2009

Posted: 04 Feb 2009, 13:12
by metropol
Rendall Munroe seems way to high . He is never overly impressive and imo hasn't beaten any decent opposition and also imo has ducked Dunne. I think justice was done when ben got his crack at Cordoba and whether or not he wins at least he took a chance which is admirable.

Re: British Top 30 P4P February 2009

Posted: 04 Feb 2009, 13:20
by Horse
Captain Hook wrote:
Horse wrote:
Captain Hook wrote:I see everyone has noticed that you're flogging a dead.....

:TU:
Care to explain?
You keep posting to rise your own list up the threads so people will read it and now i'm guilty of it as well....

Doh..... :witzend:
Thanks, Captain. :TU:
Lenny wrote:How so?
:D

Re: British Top 30 P4P February 2009

Posted: 04 Feb 2009, 13:43
by boxerbob
hatton is number 1

*he has beaten the better fighters home and away

*calzaghe best win is vs kessler , hattons is vs tyzuz (sp)....no comparison

*calzaghe struggled badly vs an old man in hopkins and has not fought the best in his title reign

*hatton is fighting the best fighter on the planet for the 2nd time , he wanted to be tested thats why he left warren , calzaghe was happy fighting wbo bums for 10 years

hatton can look back at his career and say he fought the best and in thier prime , calzaghe cant.

Re: British Top 30 P4P February 2009

Posted: 04 Feb 2009, 16:17
by Horse
Captain Hook wrote:Actually Horse, you still have Woods so high..why?
Woods was the IBF world champion for almost 3 1/2 years, and he lost his title less than 12 months ago.

The only two fighters below him who I think it would be acceptable to put above him are Cook and Maccarinelli.

Cook has only just won his WBO title and has not yet established himself as a decent World champion. I thought it was too early to put him above a recognised World class fighter like Woods.

In 2008 Maccarinelli got destroyed by Haye in two and beat the journeyman Ellis in two. That is not impressive, and I didn't feel it was enough to make him go above Woods.

As for the rest, they simply are not operating on the World level and don't deserve to be considered for a place above Woods at this moment in time, in my opinion.

Re: British Top 30 P4P February 2009

Posted: 04 Feb 2009, 19:41
by observer1
Khan should atleast be above Thaxton. After all, he beat the man who beat the man.

Re: British Top 30 P4P February 2009

Posted: 04 Feb 2009, 19:51
by brian13
observer1 wrote:Khan should atleast be above Thaxton. After all, he beat the man who beat the man.
He fought bad opponents and got badly KO'ed in one of his fights

Re: British Top 30 P4P February 2009

Posted: 04 Feb 2009, 19:57
by banjo
observer1 wrote:Khan should atleast be above Thaxton. After all, he beat the man who beat the man.
Who's this man who beat the man he beat then?