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Rocky Balboa wrote:Let the debate begin...

Chambers2 wrote:The final opponent of each fighter speaks volumes IMO

Chambers2 wrote:The final opponent of each fighter speaks volumes IMO

DG. wrote:

Rocky Balboa wrote:Let the debate begin...

Lewis!

Ruddock
Holyfield
Tyson
Briggs
Weaver
Biggs
Botha
Akinwande
Klitschko


No contest.

banjo wrote:"Yet he took stepaside money to avoid Tyson"

No he didn't as I said Tyson was stripped of the WBC belt because he wanted to face the ferocious Bruce Seldon rather than fight Lewis.

By Ed Schuyler Jr., Associated Press writer
LAS VEGAS -- Evander Holyfield is next for Mike Tyson, and boxing fans, starved for someone to give Tyson a fight, are hopeful.
Tyson's four fights since being released from prison March 25, 1995, have lasted less than eight full rounds. In the last, Saturday night, Tyson needed only 109 seconds to dispatch WBA champion Bruce Seldon.
"Fix, fix," fans at the MGM Grand Garden chanted.
"Mismatch," would have been a more accurate description.
Seldon simply was overwhelmed, and while fans questioned the legitimacy of the two knockdowns, there was little doubt that once the opening bell rang, it was only a matter of time until the quick, explosive Tyson would end the fight.
The Tyson-Holyfield match Nov. 9 could be short, but fans and the people with a financial interest in Tyson's career are hoping it will be a brawl as long as it lasts. Holyfield's reputation as a warrior will be a big selling point.
Promoter Don King said yesterday that the Tyson-Holyfield match will be part of a heavyweight championship doubleheader.
Jay Larkin of Showtime, Tyson's television backer, said Henry Akinwande of Britain could also make a WBO title defense against Russian Alexander Zolkin on the card. It's also possible there could be a bout for the vacant WBC title.
Tyson is the WBC champion as well as the WBA champion, but the WBC title was not at stake Saturday night because of an agreement that he would make his first WBC title defense against Lennox Lewis of Britain, who was paid $4 million to allow the Tyson-Seldon match.
Now that the Tyson-Holyfield bout is set, Tyson is expected to relinquish the WBC title.
WBC president Jose Sulaiman said a purse bid is scheduled for Sept. 24 for a Lewis-Oliver McCall fight for the WBC championship. Bidding will be between King, McCall's promoter, and Dino Duva, the promoter of Lewis, who is tied to HBO.
Holyfield, like Tyson, is a former undisputed champion. His goal is to be a champion again, and he admits fighting Tyson in a title match will be special.
Holyfield was to have defended the undisputed title against Tyson in November 1991, but the fight was called off because Tyson suffered a rib injury, then went to prison.
Holyfield said he thought a fight against Tyson was his due.
"You've got nothing coming to you," Tyson snapped at Holyfield after his easy victory Saturday night. "I'm going to have a good time in this fight."

Twinkle Toes wrote:As much as I rate Calzaghe, Lewis fought pretty much everyone, and even though he lost twice, he avenged both defeats in style.

banjo wrote:

Twinkle Toes wrote:As much as I rate Calzaghe, Lewis fought pretty much everyone, and even though he lost twice, he avenged both defeats in style.

Aye, he made the Atomic Bull cry.

gobbles wrote:

banjo wrote:"Yet he took stepaside money to avoid Tyson"

No he didn't as I said Tyson was stripped of the WBC belt because he wanted to face the ferocious Bruce Seldon rather than fight Lewis.

Not true. He was paid $4million to allow the Seldon fight and I believe he was paid again ahead of the Holyfield fight, but when Tyson got beat the title became vacant.

On another point, I can't believe that Weaver, Botha and Akinwande have been held up as examples of good opponents.

By Ed Schuyler Jr., Associated Press writer
LAS VEGAS -- Evander Holyfield is next for Mike Tyson, and boxing fans, starved for someone to give Tyson a fight, are hopeful.
Tyson's four fights since being released from prison March 25, 1995, have lasted less than eight full rounds. In the last, Saturday night, Tyson needed only 109 seconds to dispatch WBA champion Bruce Seldon.
"Fix, fix," fans at the MGM Grand Garden chanted.
"Mismatch," would have been a more accurate description.
Seldon simply was overwhelmed, and while fans questioned the legitimacy of the two knockdowns, there was little doubt that once the opening bell rang, it was only a matter of time until the quick, explosive Tyson would end the fight.
The Tyson-Holyfield match Nov. 9 could be short, but fans and the people with a financial interest in Tyson's career are hoping it will be a brawl as long as it lasts. Holyfield's reputation as a warrior will be a big selling point.
Promoter Don King said yesterday that the Tyson-Holyfield match will be part of a heavyweight championship doubleheader.
Jay Larkin of Showtime, Tyson's television backer, said Henry Akinwande of Britain could also make a WBO title defense against Russian Alexander Zolkin on the card. It's also possible there could be a bout for the vacant WBC title.
Tyson is the WBC champion as well as the WBA champion, but the WBC title was not at stake Saturday night because of an agreement that he would make his first WBC title defense against Lennox Lewis of Britain, who was paid $4 million to allow the Tyson-Seldon match.
Now that the Tyson-Holyfield bout is set, Tyson is expected to relinquish the WBC title.
WBC president Jose Sulaiman said a purse bid is scheduled for Sept. 24 for a Lewis-Oliver McCall fight for the WBC championship. Bidding will be between King, McCall's promoter, and Dino Duva, the promoter of Lewis, who is tied to HBO.
Holyfield, like Tyson, is a former undisputed champion. His goal is to be a champion again, and he admits fighting Tyson in a title match will be special.
Holyfield was to have defended the undisputed title against Tyson in November 1991, but the fight was called off because Tyson suffered a rib injury, then went to prison.
Holyfield said he thought a fight against Tyson was his due.
"You've got nothing coming to you," Tyson snapped at Holyfield after his easy victory Saturday night. "I'm going to have a good time in this fight."

NorthEastBoxingFan wrote:

DG. wrote:

Rocky Balboa wrote:Let the debate begin...

Lewis!

Ruddock
Holyfield
Tyson
Briggs
Weaver
Biggs
Botha
Akinwande
Klitschko


No contest.

Henry "Action" Akinwande?, Shannon Briggs??....if he was one of the seven dwarves he'd be Sleepy. They asked me if Lennox Lewis had a better career that Joe Calzaghe NEBF say NO , NO, NO.

gobbles wrote:

gobbles wrote:

banjo wrote:"Yet he took stepaside money to avoid Tyson"

No he didn't as I said Tyson was stripped of the WBC belt because he wanted to face the ferocious Bruce Seldon rather than fight Lewis.

Not true. He was paid $4million to allow the Seldon fight and I believe he was paid again ahead of the Holyfield fight, but when Tyson got beat the title became vacant.

On another point, I can't believe that Weaver, Botha and Akinwande have been held up as examples of good opponents.

By Ed Schuyler Jr., Associated Press writer
LAS VEGAS -- Evander Holyfield is next for Mike Tyson, and boxing fans, starved for someone to give Tyson a fight, are hopeful.
Tyson's four fights since being released from prison March 25, 1995, have lasted less than eight full rounds. In the last, Saturday night, Tyson needed only 109 seconds to dispatch WBA champion Bruce Seldon.
"Fix, fix," fans at the MGM Grand Garden chanted.
"Mismatch," would have been a more accurate description.
Seldon simply was overwhelmed, and while fans questioned the legitimacy of the two knockdowns, there was little doubt that once the opening bell rang, it was only a matter of time until the quick, explosive Tyson would end the fight.
The Tyson-Holyfield match Nov. 9 could be short, but fans and the people with a financial interest in Tyson's career are hoping it will be a brawl as long as it lasts. Holyfield's reputation as a warrior will be a big selling point.
Promoter Don King said yesterday that the Tyson-Holyfield match will be part of a heavyweight championship doubleheader.
Jay Larkin of Showtime, Tyson's television backer, said Henry Akinwande of Britain could also make a WBO title defense against Russian Alexander Zolkin on the card. It's also possible there could be a bout for the vacant WBC title.
Tyson is the WBC champion as well as the WBA champion, but the WBC title was not at stake Saturday night because of an agreement that he would make his first WBC title defense against Lennox Lewis of Britain, who was paid $4 million to allow the Tyson-Seldon match.
Now that the Tyson-Holyfield bout is set, Tyson is expected to relinquish the WBC title.
WBC president Jose Sulaiman said a purse bid is scheduled for Sept. 24 for a Lewis-Oliver McCall fight for the WBC championship. Bidding will be between King, McCall's promoter, and Dino Duva, the promoter of Lewis, who is tied to HBO.
Holyfield, like Tyson, is a former undisputed champion. His goal is to be a champion again, and he admits fighting Tyson in a title match will be special.
Holyfield was to have defended the undisputed title against Tyson in November 1991, but the fight was called off because Tyson suffered a rib injury, then went to prison.
Holyfield said he thought a fight against Tyson was his due.
"You've got nothing coming to you," Tyson snapped at Holyfield after his easy victory Saturday night. "I'm going to have a good time in this fight."

Maybe I should repeat that cutting

NorthEastBoxingFan wrote:Threads like this bore the sh*t out of me quite frankly.

Literally what is the fcking purpose?????????? It's a bit late to do anything about it now!!!

Better career - Lewis or Calzaghe?...........Our survey said: if you don't like Calzaghe get on here and tell others, for the umpteenth time, why not!

I think Lennox Lewis gets revered in some quarters too much. He got his clock cleaned twice, not once, twice...that's a lot for an all time great in my book. Plus he was getting beat by Klitschko wasn't he? And as for Tyson....well fair do's beat the man in front of you but give me a prime Lewis and a prime Tyson and Tyson would do a Berbick on him in my book.

Speaking of a prime Tyson, that is exactly what Jeff Lacy was gettin billed as a smaller version of when he came over here. Mikkel Kessler, younger, harder hitter..JC did a great job. Chin?? Watch the Charles the hatchett Brewer(I think that one) fight, that was a HUGE knockdown in the first or second round, Joe's head looked like it was going to fly off. Could have pulled a Lennox Lewis, did he? No did he bollox, KO's the guy in the next round. Fantastic. I also thought that Sakio Bika win was a fantastic win considerin he was dirty and Joe had one good hand. Granted it all seemed to get a bit "hyped" at the end...but to be fair I don't think you can say that Hopkins' style has really changed all that much plus he virtually lives in the gym so age wasn't an issue. Plus he tried like fck to cheat. Granted Jones was a bit of a shell of the fighter he once was, that was a bit like beating up an old man even though Calzaghe goes on about it like he beat a legend.

Conclusion....pound for pound, prime for prime, Joe Calzaghe was a superior boxer to Lennox Lewis by quite some distance IMO. And before you say it I know that wasn't the answer to the question asked. I'd still say Calzaghe though.