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Edwin Valero - Still unbeaten

Posted: 24 Feb 2009, 19:26
by WildWaylon
Amazing record 24 and 0 and every one a KO!!!! He is certainly going to take some beating at super feather. I think there is a problem regarding where he can fight if my memory serves me correctly. He seems to have fought mainly in Japan. I would love to see him fight, he must be exciting to watch with such an exceptional KO record. Anybody got any current info on him?

Re: Edwin Valero - Still unbeaten

Posted: 24 Feb 2009, 19:31
by Coco
Apparently he is moving up and is fighting for the WBC interim belt

Re: Edwin Valero - Still unbeaten

Posted: 24 Feb 2009, 19:42
by Asterix
Yes, definitely a lightweight now. Facing Antonio Pitalua on the 4th of April for the Interim WBC Lightweight Title (Pacman vacated recently). The winner of his fight will be against the winner of Jorge Rodrigo Barrios vs Carlos Hernandez. It's a lightweight tournament by Golden Boy. See here for the first bouts: http://www.boxrec.com/show_display.php?show_id=571049

I like Valero. He's fun to watch and even though his technique looks dodgy he has been very effective so far (obviously). I do think he's going to get knocked out in his first loss, rather than losing by decision. His fight against Vicente Mosquera was a bit worrying in the 3rd round, when he got knocked down.

Re: Edwin Valero - Still unbeaten

Posted: 24 Feb 2009, 19:51
by Asterix
Just to add to my previous post.

Here's the news about Pacman vacating: http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=18874&more=1

Lightweight tournament press conference gets heated (between Valero & Jorge Barrios): http://www.ringtv.com/blog/370/lighteni ... onference/ <<< Good article

Re: Edwin Valero - Still unbeaten

Posted: 24 Feb 2009, 19:57
by tobyh5
WildWaylon wrote:Amazing record 24 and 0 and every one a KO!!!! He is certainly going to take some beating at super feather. I think there is a problem regarding where he can fight if my memory serves me correctly. He seems to have fought mainly in Japan. I would love to see him fight, he must be exciting to watch with such an exceptional KO record. Anybody got any current info on him?

Is this breaking news? wow, 24-0 and all KO's, blimey, who is this guy?

And you call yourself a boxing fan? :lol: :lol:

Re: Edwin Valero - Still unbeaten

Posted: 24 Feb 2009, 20:00
by Asterix
As far as I know, Valero is still only cleared to fight in Texas inside the US.

Re: Edwin Valero - Still unbeaten

Posted: 24 Feb 2009, 20:10
by WildWaylon
tobyh5 wrote:
WildWaylon wrote:Amazing record 24 and 0 and every one a KO!!!! He is certainly going to take some beating at super feather. I think there is a problem regarding where he can fight if my memory serves me correctly. He seems to have fought mainly in Japan. I would love to see him fight, he must be exciting to watch with such an exceptional KO record. Anybody got any current info on him?

Is this breaking news? wow, 24-0 and all KO's, blimey, who is this guy?

And you call yourself a boxing fan? :lol: :lol:
Thats a bit rude pal. No it isnt breaking news, but who ever mentions him on here. He has a perfect record in every way so hes interesting. By the way I was a boxing fan before you were born so I dont need some youngster getting funny with me.

Re: Edwin Valero - Still unbeaten

Posted: 24 Feb 2009, 21:07
by adamiw
I think Arum fancies a Pacman-Valero match up at some point.....and i wouldn't be all that surprised if it is Pacquaio's next fight after Hatton.......Valero will have to maintain his unbeaten record (and ideally his perfect KO ratio) for it to happen.....it is the mystique that creates which will sell the fight

Re: Edwin Valero - Still unbeaten

Posted: 24 Feb 2009, 23:51
by SticknMove
Yes a real heavy handed prospect who should be at his prime by now. He should have been well in the mix but I guess rules are rules even though they vary from one country/jurisdiction to another.

I watched a bit of him sparring with Morales which showed a little more about him than just the banging out style that made his name. I also saw the Mosquero fight which showed to me that he could be backed up. A real strong fighter with a bit of pop IMO would give him a lot problems beyond the space and leverage he needs to let off heavy handed attacks. Real shame that we haven't sseen more from him though.

Re: Edwin Valero - Still unbeaten

Posted: 25 Feb 2009, 03:53
by black panther
SticknMove wrote:Yes a real heavy handed prospect who should be at his prime by now. He should have been well in the mix but I guess rules are rules even though they vary from one country/jurisdiction to another.

I watched a bit of him sparring with Morales which showed a little more about him than just the banging out style that made his name. I also saw the Mosquero fight which showed to me that he could be backed up. A real strong fighter with a bit of pop IMO would give him a lot problems beyond the space and leverage he needs to let off heavy handed attacks. Real shame that we haven't sseen more from him though.
I think that's because he failed a brain scan years ago after a motorcycle accident and so was refused to fight in a number of states. That's why he went off and based himself in Japan to fight.

Re: Edwin Valero - Still unbeaten

Posted: 25 Feb 2009, 03:57
by DG.
I think he has been given clearance across the USA now.I think?


I agre he will suffer a KO loss - no technique imo - way too raw..

Pacman Vs Valero - 2 bangers that have, imo - limited skills!


:D

Re: Edwin Valero - Still unbeaten

Posted: 25 Feb 2009, 08:10
by Asterix
DG. wrote:I think he has been given clearance across the USA now.I think?
Not yet, but they're working on it. Texas is still the only state, from what has been said in the media.
According to his manager, Jose Castillo, the medical issues with the most prominent commissions are being resolved and the fighter is finally going to be able to display his wares on American soil and American television.
http://www.BS.com/?m=show&id=18594

Re: Edwin Valero - Still unbeaten

Posted: 25 Feb 2009, 09:37
by clubberlang
I cant believe how hyped Valero is (admittedly I haven’t seen him fight, but from what I’ve heard he’s a wild swinging slugger). His pretty record is among the most padded I’ve seen, he’s stepped up once (and not to the very highest level I might add) and had a hard time yet a lot of people seem to think he’s a threat to the big boys.

Re: Edwin Valero - Still unbeaten

Posted: 25 Feb 2009, 10:02
by Datsue
clubberlang wrote:I cant believe how hyped Valero is (admittedly I haven’t seen him fight, but from what I’ve heard he’s a wild swinging slugger). His pretty record is among the most padded I’ve seen, he’s stepped up once (and not to the very highest level I might add) and had a hard time yet a lot of people seem to think he’s a threat to the big boys.
First part of his biggest win here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bsqXUV3QqQ

It's a hard hard fight, but it shows the best & the worst of him (thanks, Graham Houston!) simultaneously.

His biggest asset other than his strength may be his awkwardness.

Also, his opposition since beating Mosquera has been SN-level bad.

Re: Edwin Valero - Still unbeaten

Posted: 25 Feb 2009, 10:13
by Asterix

Re: Edwin Valero - Still unbeaten

Posted: 25 Feb 2009, 11:00
by clubberlang
:TU: Cheers guys.

He does remind me of a less refined Pac Man. His chin is up in the air, and his upper body is pretty static and some of his deliveries are wild but at the same time the kid throws fast hurtful bombs, usually in combination.

I think he needs to be a bit smarter against a banger like Pitalua.

Re: Edwin Valero - Still unbeaten

Posted: 25 Feb 2009, 17:21
by steve689
I've always been a Valero fan and a fight between him and Pacquiao floats my boat. He carries his powrer late and has no stamina issues as he proved against Vicente Mosquera. Also, I remember a year or two back there was some footage of him boxing on even terms with Erik Morales to show he is not a one-dimensional slugger either.

Re: Edwin Valero - Still unbeaten

Posted: 25 Feb 2009, 17:25
by tobyh5
WildWaylon wrote:
tobyh5 wrote:
WildWaylon wrote:Amazing record 24 and 0 and every one a KO!!!! He is certainly going to take some beating at super feather. I think there is a problem regarding where he can fight if my memory serves me correctly. He seems to have fought mainly in Japan. I would love to see him fight, he must be exciting to watch with such an exceptional KO record. Anybody got any current info on him?

Is this breaking news? wow, 24-0 and all KO's, blimey, who is this guy?

And you call yourself a boxing fan? :lol: :lol:
Thats a bit rude pal. No it isnt breaking news, but who ever mentions him on here. He has a perfect record in every way so hes interesting. By the way I was a boxing fan before you were born so I dont need some youngster getting funny with me.

I just did, so whether you need it or not, it has already happened. Such a great fan that you just made a thread as if you have just discovered some new sensation rather than some ultra ultra old news.

Re: Edwin Valero - Still unbeaten

Posted: 25 Feb 2009, 17:52
by tobyh5
Sorry, on reflection, harsh and naughty of me. Bad bad bad day at the office :neutral:

Re: Edwin Valero - Still unbeaten

Posted: 25 Feb 2009, 18:14
by Asterix
tobyh5 wrote:Sorry, on reflection, harsh and naughty of me. Bad bad bad day at the office :neutral:
Cheer up. There's some great boxing this weekend. Waylon's a good guy. :TU:

Re: Edwin Valero - Still unbeaten

Posted: 25 Feb 2009, 18:50
by tobyh5
Asterix wrote:
tobyh5 wrote:Sorry, on reflection, harsh and naughty of me. Bad bad bad day at the office :neutral:
Cheer up. There's some great boxing this weekend. Waylon's a good guy. :TU:
Yeah sorry Waylon, was bang out of order of me. Effing staff off sick today, hard drive on server blew, struggling to get customers to pay their accounts, staring down the barrel of having to write off some accounts, working my tits off to keep revenue up, overdraft growing. GOD DAMN RECESSION!!!

lol lol, ever so slightly stressed today! Forgive me!

Re: Edwin Valero - Still unbeaten

Posted: 26 Feb 2009, 18:33
by WildWaylon
tobyh5 wrote:
Asterix wrote:
tobyh5 wrote:Sorry, on reflection, harsh and naughty of me. Bad bad bad day at the office :neutral:
Cheer up. There's some great boxing this weekend. Waylon's a good guy. :TU:
Yeah sorry Waylon, was bang out of order of me. Effing staff off sick today, hard drive on server blew, struggling to get customers to pay their accounts, staring down the barrel of having to write off some accounts, working my tits off to keep revenue up, overdraft growing. GOD DAMN RECESSION!!!

lol lol, ever so slightly stressed today! Forgive me!
Forgiven :TU: :P

Re: Edwin Valero - Still unbeaten

Posted: 27 Feb 2009, 14:43
by forcefraser
Apparently Valero took some chunks out of De La Hoya in sparring for the Pacman fight.

The boy can bang like a young Duran.

Re: Edwin Valero - Still unbeaten

Posted: 27 Feb 2009, 15:35
by hitman_hatton1
DG. wrote:Pacman Vs Valero - 2 bangers that have, imo - limited skills!


:D
:oops:

Re: Edwin Valero - Still unbeaten

Posted: 27 Feb 2009, 17:56
by DG.
tobyh5 wrote:Sorry, on reflection, harsh and naughty of me. Bad bad bad day at the office :neutral:
Tut tut Toby!

Waylon is one of DGs crew!

:evil:

Do not let the bastards get you down!



:D