Re: how far will Tyson Fury go?
Posted: 25 Feb 2009, 13:33
Too early to tell but I'll go with Euro for a laugh.
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Re: how far will Tyson Fury go?
Posted: 25 Feb 2009, 13:43
Whoever voted world champion....wbu, wbf, maybe just maybe ibo but nowhere near the top 3 no way. He just doesn't have it, when you see someone with it you just know they have it, if you no what i mean.
Re: how far will Tyson Fury go?
Posted: 25 Feb 2009, 13:44
I'm liking him less and less. :(
Re: how far will Tyson Fury go?
Posted: 25 Feb 2009, 13:56
Re: how far will Tyson Fury go?
Posted: 25 Feb 2009, 13:56
I think he's definitely got the ability to be a British champion but you can't just get by on ability alone, you need the drive and desire to achieve it and whether Tyson has that remains to be seen, too early to tell yet.
Re: how far will Tyson Fury go?
Posted: 25 Feb 2009, 13:57
Re: how far will Tyson Fury go?
Posted: 25 Feb 2009, 14:00
What is it with Hennessy fighters and downright arrogance?
P.S. before anyone comes on with the ol' shite about having to be arrogant to get to the top, no you don't, you need confidence, talent and ruthlessness.
P.S. before anyone comes on with the ol' shite about having to be arrogant to get to the top, no you don't, you need confidence, talent and ruthlessness.
Re: how far will Tyson Fury go?
Posted: 25 Feb 2009, 14:03
I agree there's no need for arrogance in anyway of lifebanjo wrote:What is it with Hennessy fighters and downright arrogance?
P.S. before anyone comes on with the ol' shite about having to be arrogant to get to the top, no you don't, you need confidence, talent and ruthlessness.
Re: how far will Tyson Fury go?
Posted: 25 Feb 2009, 14:06
I think it has more to do with the Hennessy press team, most of their press releases are very similar, churning out the usual stuff and just attributing the comments to anyone of their fightersbanjo wrote:What is it with Hennessy fighters and downright arrogance?
P.S. before anyone comes on with the ol' shite about having to be arrogant to get to the top, no you don't, you need confidence, talent and ruthlessness.
Re: how far will Tyson Fury go?
Posted: 25 Feb 2009, 14:09
You only have a pair when you fight though, Harrison was talking too.BIGMARK wrote:i went with British but really dont know, i just read he has done an interview with Buncey for tomorrows boxing hour. here is a bit i took off the eastside site:Asterix wrote:Too early to tell but I'll go with Euro for a laugh.
In an interview on this Thursday’s Steve Bunce Boxing Hour on Setanta Sports News Fury said that Haye stood no chance at heavyweight, calling the Hayemaker a “baby”. He said: “David Haye is a cruiserweight and he’s not a big man. He’s 6’2” and 15 stone. I’m 6’9” and 18 stone, that’s a real heavyweight.
“In a couple of years David Haye won’t stand a chance. That’s if he gets past Klitschko.”
A confident Fury said that Haye would stand no chance if the two were ever to clash in the ring. He added:
“It would be no contest to be honest. I know that’s a bit big headed but I’m improving all the time. So in another couple of years I’ll be at his level. So we’ll see if the fight happens.”
you have to say one thing, the man has a pair on him.
Re: how far will Tyson Fury go?
Posted: 25 Feb 2009, 14:16
At least British Champ!
Re: how far will Tyson Fury go?
Posted: 25 Feb 2009, 14:56
Tyson is a very raw talent with an awful lot to learn, but he is only 20 years of age and has a lot of time on his hands, which is to his advantage. I think that we will be able to gauge where he is in abou 18 months to two years time, has had 15 or so fights and is ready to challenege for the British title. At that stage, i would like to see him up against the likes of Sprott, Williams, Rogan and Harrision, because whilst this is the old guard of British heavyweight boxing, they would represent a considerable challenge to Tyson, in particular Sprott and Williams.
Tyson has to change his trainer and put his father on the back burner, as i'm sure will happen in the next 12 months or so. He needs to be trained by professionals, who can work on his fitness, conditioning and technique. He has looked impressive so far, but that is against very bad journeyman, who are one up from the punch bag in the gym and so tell us very little. Let's wait and reserve our judgements, both good and bad, for another 18 months and allow Tyson to mature a little, gain some experience, work on his technique, hone his fitness and then we will have a better idea of his potential.
Tyson has to change his trainer and put his father on the back burner, as i'm sure will happen in the next 12 months or so. He needs to be trained by professionals, who can work on his fitness, conditioning and technique. He has looked impressive so far, but that is against very bad journeyman, who are one up from the punch bag in the gym and so tell us very little. Let's wait and reserve our judgements, both good and bad, for another 18 months and allow Tyson to mature a little, gain some experience, work on his technique, hone his fitness and then we will have a better idea of his potential.
Re: how far will Tyson Fury go?
Posted: 25 Feb 2009, 15:05
If he continues at his current rate of progression in terms of opponents he'll be contesting a World title in hi 7th fight. I've only seen him fight twice against people I haven't seen before, so it's way way too early to say, but if he's got the chin that Sir Mick of Meaty says he has and he's got a good engine then he's gonna be a handful when he's abit more refined IMO
Re: how far will Tyson Fury go?
Posted: 25 Feb 2009, 15:09
7th Fight !!!Chambers2 wrote:If he continues at his current rate of progression in terms of opponents he'll be contesting a World title in hi 7th fight. I've only seen him fight twice against people I haven't seen before, so it's way way too early to say, but if he's got the chin that Sir Mick of Meaty says he has and he's got a good engine then he's gonna be a handful when he's abit more refined IMO
Don't you think that's a tad early Chambers ?
He is on his 3rd fight on saturday, has'nt passed the journeymen stage and has yet to fight at a decent domestic level, nevermind the European scene !!
Or did you mean 17th fight
Re: how far will Tyson Fury go?
Posted: 25 Feb 2009, 15:28
The only world title Fury will get near is Miss World, on account of his gorgeous 38DD tits.
Re: how far will Tyson Fury go?
Posted: 25 Feb 2009, 16:12
Maybe Euro. He doesn't look to have a great deal of power to me. That German bloke he fought last time out didn't ever look hurt by anything he threw, and ended getting stopped because he wasn't throwing anything back but he never looked like going over despite Tyson landing with some big shots.
For him to be talking about Haye is a joke. He wouldn't get past the first round.
For him to be talking about Haye is a joke. He wouldn't get past the first round.
Re: how far will Tyson Fury go?
Posted: 25 Feb 2009, 16:49
Quixall wrote:7th Fight !!!Chambers2 wrote:If he continues at his current rate of progression in terms of opponents he'll be contesting a World title in hi 7th fight. I've only seen him fight twice against people I haven't seen before, so it's way way too early to say, but if he's got the chin that Sir Mick of Meaty says he has and he's got a good engine then he's gonna be a handful when he's abit more refined IMO
Don't you think that's a tad early Chambers ?
He is on his 3rd fight on saturday, has'nt passed the journeymen stage and has yet to fight at a decent domestic level, nevermind the European scene !!
Or did you mean 17th fight
Re: how far will Tyson Fury go?
Posted: 25 Feb 2009, 16:55
By the time Tyson is looking at world honours, Vitali will be gone and possibly Wlad as well - what young up and comers are there in this division? We just do not know what the scene will look like in a few years time but if he continues his progression then there is no reason why he cant be up there.
I would pick him over Price at this moment in time
I would pick him over Price at this moment in time
Re: how far will Tyson Fury go?
Posted: 25 Feb 2009, 17:36
yep I think Price easily bear Fury in the amateurs but I think Fury is suited to pro boxing. I think he looks naturally bigger than Price and more powerful, although we wont know for certain until both are a fair way down the lineBIGMARK wrote:i believe Price out boxed Fury quite easily befroe the olympics but for some reason in general Price is getting over looked and the man won a Bronze.doctorboxing wrote:By the time Tyson is looking at world honours, Vitali will be gone and possibly Wlad as well - what young up and comers are there in this division? We just do not know what the scene will look like in a few years time but if he continues his progression then there is no reason why he cant be up there.
I would pick him over Price at this moment in time
Re: how far will Tyson Fury go?
Posted: 25 Feb 2009, 18:07
Eraserhead wrote:The only world title Fury will get near is Miss World, on account of his gorgeous 38DD tits.
Re: how far will Tyson Fury go?
Posted: 25 Feb 2009, 18:18
The average age of the Top 25 boxers in each division (according to Boxrec ratings):
The average age for top heavyweights (I hope that's not considered an oxymoron in today's climate) is 32. I think Tyson could do with a few years of learning. Realistically, I think he turned pro too early, but now it's done, surely it's best to take a gradual learning curve as he's so inexperienced?
The average age for top heavyweights (I hope that's not considered an oxymoron in today's climate) is 32. I think Tyson could do with a few years of learning. Realistically, I think he turned pro too early, but now it's done, surely it's best to take a gradual learning curve as he's so inexperienced?
Re: how far will Tyson Fury go?
Posted: 25 Feb 2009, 18:53
No need to rush him whatsoever. They should be looking for say British title fights by a certain age rather than a certain number of fights. Keep his busy with a fight a month or so and get him some much needed experience and time to develop.
Re: how far will Tyson Fury go?
Posted: 25 Feb 2009, 20:49
I voted British, which would be a damn good achievement in itself
Lonsdale belt is the best in boxing and thats not even up for discussion
He could go further if he learns to punch his wight. At his size he cant really be too much of a boer/mover so he is going to have to be laying poeple out. His last fight didn't do much to convince me he has the power but it is early
Lonsdale belt is the best in boxing and thats not even up for discussion
He could go further if he learns to punch his wight. At his size he cant really be too much of a boer/mover so he is going to have to be laying poeple out. His last fight didn't do much to convince me he has the power but it is early
Re: how far will Tyson Fury go?
Posted: 25 Feb 2009, 20:56
lefthook82 wrote:I voted British, which would be a damn good achievement in itself
Lonsdale belt is the best in boxing and thats not even up for discussion
He could go further if he learns to punch his wight. At his size he cant really be too much of a boer/mover so he is going to have to be laying poeple out. His last fight didn't do much to convince me he has the power but it is early
Maybe but if he can learn to keep people on the end of his jab then he could get somewhere without needing too much knock out power, just a powerfull enough jab to keep people at a distance. I assume he has a really long reach to go with the height.
Re: how far will Tyson Fury go?
Posted: 25 Feb 2009, 22:29
Asterix wrote:The average age of the Top 25 boxers in each division (according to Boxrec ratings):
The average age for top heavyweights (I hope that's not considered an oxymoron in today's climate) is 32. I think Tyson could do with a few years of learning. Realistically, I think he turned pro too early, but now it's done, surely it's best to take a gradual learning curve as he's so inexperienced?
That graph really does show a lack of effort from our 0-15 year olds. 8) I guess the person that constructed it must have fallen into that age bracket.