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Re: Steve Bunce: Max Kellerman Is An Idiot

Posted: 01 Mar 2009, 20:38
by banjo
awesome :lol:

Re: Steve Bunce: Max Kellerman Is An Idiot

Posted: 02 Mar 2009, 06:11
by Counter-puncher
sg1985 wrote:you've got to love buncey
i personally don't, but if he's breaking one off in Kellerman he gets my vote :TU:

Re: Steve Bunce: Max Kellerman Is An Idiot

Posted: 02 Mar 2009, 06:27
by Deadendgeneration
“Steve I wish you wouldn’t sit on the fence.” :lol:

Spot on.

Re: Steve Bunce: Max Kellerman Is An Idiot

Posted: 02 Mar 2009, 06:32
by nobby_nobbins
Wish the clip had included the interview he was complaining about, but I think I know what he means and I'm glad he is able to say it. I remember Steve Holdworth being at least as rude about Dave Bontempo. He went off on a huge rant about how he knew nothing about boxing.

I'm wondering how Bunce knows how much Kellerman is paid? There might be a little jealousy involved here, but generally I think he made good points about interviewing boxers in the ring. Bunce certainly knows how to interview them himself.

Re: Steve Bunce: Max Kellerman Is An Idiot

Posted: 02 Mar 2009, 06:55
by Lenny
Fairly spot on I reckon. Not sure about the jealousy theory. If anything, maybe it's due to the fact that Kellerman possibly didn't work his way up through years of doing small hall shows like Bunce did.

Anyway who would have thought someone talking slowly would infuriate 100 words per minute Bunce?

Re: Steve Bunce: Max Kellerman Is An Idiot

Posted: 02 Mar 2009, 07:03
by nobby_nobbins
Lenny wrote: Anyway who would have thought someone talking slowly would infuriate 100 words per minute Bunce?
I firmly believe that Steve Bunce and Don King are actually the same person. Have you ever seen them in the same room together? They're both the same size - Bunce just employs a cunning disguise when doing his King routine. If you grab Bunce's bag off him, you'll find a large black/grey wig in it and lots of unfeasable jewellery.

Re: Steve Bunce: Max Kellerman Is An Idiot

Posted: 02 Mar 2009, 07:03
by Deadendgeneration
Yeah I’m not sure about the jealousy thing, I’m pretty sure Buncey is happy to be making a decent enough living from the boxing business to be honest.

Re: Steve Bunce: Max Kellerman Is An Idiot

Posted: 02 Mar 2009, 07:04
by Autobarn
Good comments Buncey. Glad you can get away with it.

Re: Steve Bunce: Max Kellerman Is An Idiot

Posted: 02 Mar 2009, 07:05
by nobby_nobbins
Deadendgeneration wrote:Yeah I’m not sure about the jealousy thing, I’m pretty sure Buncey is happy to be making a decent enough living from the boxing business to be honest.
I'm not sure about the jealousy thing either, but Bunce gives the impression of someone who's slightly bitter because he feels he's been rejected by the "mainstream" and skulks in a sporting ghetto.

Re: Steve Bunce: Max Kellerman Is An Idiot

Posted: 02 Mar 2009, 07:08
by Deadendgeneration
Yeah I can understand that, though I think its probably for the bets he isn’t right in the mainstream, I’m not quite sure how much of his comments he would get away with somewhere else.

Re: Steve Bunce: Max Kellerman Is An Idiot

Posted: 02 Mar 2009, 07:10
by nobby_nobbins
Deadendgeneration wrote:Yeah I can understand that, though I think its probably for the bets he isn’t right in the mainstream, I’m not quite sure how much of his comments he would get away with somewhere else.
Too right. It's good that he can be as opinionated as he likes

Re: Steve Bunce: Max Kellerman Is An Idiot

Posted: 02 Mar 2009, 07:12
by banjo
The entire HBO team is shit, Lampley and Kellerman are just typical American cheerleaders and Merchant takes about half an hour to make a point and usually wanders off on some cliched garble.

Any of the British broadcast teams piss all over that rubbish.

Re: Steve Bunce: Max Kellerman Is An Idiot

Posted: 02 Mar 2009, 07:12
by Lenny
nobby_nobbins wrote:
Lenny wrote: Anyway who would have thought someone talking slowly would infuriate 100 words per minute Bunce?
I firmly believe that Steve Bunce and Don King are actually the same person. Have you ever seen them in the same room together? They're both the same size - Bunce just employs a cunning disguise when doing his King routine. If you grab Bunce's bag off him, you'll find a large black/grey wig in it and lots of unfeasable jewellery.
So was Bunce eating two steaks on his own that time in New York?

Re: Steve Bunce: Max Kellerman Is An Idiot

Posted: 02 Mar 2009, 07:15
by nobby_nobbins
Lenny wrote:
nobby_nobbins wrote:
Lenny wrote: Anyway who would have thought someone talking slowly would infuriate 100 words per minute Bunce?
I firmly believe that Steve Bunce and Don King are actually the same person. Have you ever seen them in the same room together? They're both the same size - Bunce just employs a cunning disguise when doing his King routine. If you grab Bunce's bag off him, you'll find a large black/grey wig in it and lots of unfeasable jewellery.
So was Bunce eating two steaks on his own that time in New York?
They do it with mirrors (tinted on one side)

Re: Steve Bunce: Max Kellerman Is An Idiot

Posted: 02 Mar 2009, 07:15
by Deadendgeneration
That’s it, for me the appeal of Buncey is that he pulls no punches, I’m not sure how enjoyable his ridiculously quick rants would be if they were forced to e purely positive. No one wants to see him censored.

Re: Steve Bunce: Max Kellerman Is An Idiot

Posted: 02 Mar 2009, 07:45
by DG.
Deadendgeneration wrote:Yeah I’m not sure about the jealousy thing, I’m pretty sure Buncey is happy to be making a decent enough living from the boxing business to be honest.

He also writes for the Independent.

Gwann, Buncey, smash da yank!


:lol:

Re: Steve Bunce: Max Kellerman Is An Idiot

Posted: 02 Mar 2009, 08:38
by Matt W
Isn't he a regular on Inside Sport too?

Re: Steve Bunce: Max Kellerman Is An Idiot

Posted: 02 Mar 2009, 09:21
by ArtOfWar
banjo wrote:The entire HBO team is shit, Lampley and Kellerman are just typical American cheerleaders and Merchant takes about half an hour to make a point and usually wanders off on some cliched garble.

Any of the British broadcast teams piss all over that rubbish.
No they don't. The HBO team are fairly decent, especially when Steward is the third man and the Showtime team are the best in the business.

Jim Watt going from one extreme to the other is annoying as it comes. Then you've got Duke and John Rawling on ITV who leave a lot ot be desired in my opinion.

The commentators on HBO and especially Showtime piss all over anything we've got over here.

Re: Steve Bunce: Max Kellerman Is An Idiot

Posted: 02 Mar 2009, 09:33
by Autobarn
American commentators don't piss all over anything we have over here. The HBO team don't gel and the new blow byblow person got it badly wrong on the Campbell-Funeka fight, constantly referring to a KD that never happened. No one corrected him.

Sky have gone downhill because they have to make FW mismatches seem OK. Sky usually give the best presentation, but the shows are so poor that there's no point listening to them sum it up. Sky coverage used to be great.

For no holds barred, brutal honesty and the odd crazed rant, Setanta is getting good also.


That deep voiced Showtime guy - someone Albert - used to really piss me off. Every slugfest it's like "oooh, rock 'em sock'em robots!"

Re: Steve Bunce: Max Kellerman Is An Idiot

Posted: 02 Mar 2009, 09:39
by banjo
Showtime is indeed very good, but HBO is just analysis for dummies when they don't have somebody like Steward to keep the others in check but even then you still have to listen to their fanboys wanking themselves stupid in the background. Give me Ian Darke and Jim Watt anyday.

Re: Steve Bunce: Max Kellerman Is An Idiot

Posted: 02 Mar 2009, 09:39
by Shirow
Unlike everyone else it seems I find him extremely irritating and avoid ever having to listen to him. I made it about half way through that clip though and i'd like to know if he that always that whiney & negative and is that the secret to his popularity?

Re: Steve Bunce: Max Kellerman Is An Idiot

Posted: 02 Mar 2009, 13:52
by WOODDDDDDDYA
[quote="nobby_nobbins"]Wish the clip had included the interview he was complaining about, but I think I know what he means and I'm glad he is able to say it.

I didn't included the clip because HBO would have taken the video down within hours.

Re: Steve Bunce: Max Kellerman Is An Idiot

Posted: 02 Mar 2009, 14:12
by Buncey
I'm sure that the guy loves his old mum but that interview was rubbish - as a journalist I'm telling you that was rubbish. That's all I said - I love some of the American broadcast team like Steve Farhood and Wally Matthews - proper, old-school journalists.

Big show on Thursday. Trust me.

Adios.

Re: Steve Bunce: Max Kellerman Is An Idiot

Posted: 02 Mar 2009, 14:23
by Twinkle Toes
Fair play, call it how you see it in my opinion.

I'm sick of hearing the shite that people like McGuigan spout.

Re: Steve Bunce: Max Kellerman Is An Idiot

Posted: 02 Mar 2009, 14:27
by lurkyshaka
He's always been fairly clueless but i used to like Kellerman's enthusiasm back in his ESPN days, but he's increasingly big-headed and wise after the fact now he's made it onto HBO. He shamelessly cheerleads for certain fighters and his announcing style is pompous and irritating.