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Is Hatton P4P No1 if he beats Pacman?

Posted: 11 Mar 2009, 11:32
by DG.
I know there are lots of threads, Hatton says he is number 1 if he wins - is he?

Mods, can we leave this as a stand alone Poll?


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Re: Is Hatton P4P No1 if he beats Pacman?

Posted: 11 Mar 2009, 11:34
by J
no not wihout another top tenner p4p on his victory slate he isnt.

Re: Is Hatton P4P No1 if he beats Pacman?

Posted: 11 Mar 2009, 11:36
by banjo
No, you can't just base it off one fight.

Re: Is Hatton P4P No1 if he beats Pacman?

Posted: 11 Mar 2009, 11:43
by EddieShredder
No.

Marquez is.

Re: Is Hatton P4P No1 if he beats Pacman?

Posted: 11 Mar 2009, 11:49
by DG.
Who said YES?

Does Ricky Hatton post on here?


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Re: Is Hatton P4P No1 if he beats Pacman?

Posted: 11 Mar 2009, 12:20
by Quixall
DG. wrote:I know there are lots of threads, Hatton says he is number 1 if he wins - is he?

Mods, can we leave this as a stand alone Poll?


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No he won't be considerd a p4p man at all......

One of the reasons is that Hatton can't move up the weights and most p4p title holders can and have done that, ie, Jones, Hopkins, Mayweather, Barrera, Pacquaio etc etc.

I think i only really did this post to prove to DG that i can "quote" properly :lol:

Well, most of the time anyway :KO:

Re: Is Hatton P4P No1 if he beats Pacman?

Posted: 11 Mar 2009, 12:21
by J
so hagler was never p4p then?

dont agree with this weight hopping being a criteria for p4p not one bit.

Re: Is Hatton P4P No1 if he beats Pacman?

Posted: 11 Mar 2009, 12:24
by hitman_hatton1
J wrote:so hagler was never p4p then?

dont agree with this weight hopping being a criteria for p4p not one bit.
no i don't. :shame:

hopkins was level pegging with mayweather for a spell.

and he was middleweight at the time and never stepped out of that weight class.

anyway hatton won a version of the title at another weight.

that proves he can at least do it in another weight class. :bow:

Re: Is Hatton P4P No1 if he beats Pacman?

Posted: 11 Mar 2009, 12:29
by DG.
Quixall wrote:
DG. wrote:I know there are lots of threads, Hatton says he is number 1 if he wins - is he?

Mods, can we leave this as a stand alone Poll?


:TU:
No he won't be considerd a p4p man at all......

One of the reasons is that Hatton can't move up the weights and most p4p title holders can and have done that, ie, Jones, Hopkins, Mayweather, Barrera, Pacquaio etc etc.

I think i only really did this post to prove to DG that i can "quote" properly :lol:

Well, most of the time anyway :KO:

At last!

:lol:

Re: Is Hatton P4P No1 if he beats Pacman?

Posted: 11 Mar 2009, 12:30
by DG.
J wrote:so hagler was never p4p then?

dont agree with this weight hopping being a criteria for p4p not one bit.

EXCEPTIONAL fighters can stay at one weight and be P4P, Hatton is not exceptional.

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Re: Is Hatton P4P No1 if he beats Pacman?

Posted: 11 Mar 2009, 12:31
by DG.
hitman_hatton1 wrote:
J wrote:so hagler was never p4p then?

dont agree with this weight hopping being a criteria for p4p not one bit.
no i don't. :shame:

hopkins was level pegging with mayweather for a spell.

and he was middleweight at the time and never stepped out of that weight class.

anyway hatton won a version of the title at another weight.

that proves he can at least do it in another weight class. :bow:
Against a c level fighter than actually beat him.


:D

Re: Is Hatton P4P No1 if he beats Pacman?

Posted: 11 Mar 2009, 12:35
by Quixall
J wrote:so hagler was never p4p then?

dont agree with this weight hopping being a criteria for p4p not one bit.
None of it is an exact science J, as you have said yourself,

Hagler was perhaps an exception to the rule and maybe there are one or two others, but there is no doubt that if a fighter can go through higher weight divisions and be just as successful, then people take note and applaud such accolades. That is one of the reasons for Barrera returning to the ring, to try and become the first mexican to be a four weight world champion, so i does carry some significance. Most p4p holders, however you deem the process, are invariably multi-weight world champions.

If you take the De La Hoya - Pacquaio fight, one of the attributes that people recognised was that Pacquia, a former flyweight champion, was taking on a fighter who had won a world title at middleweight and so the victory was more impressive because of that. Even you, have said in earlier posts on this thread, that posters were calling De La Hoya "shot" after the event and so are claiming that De La Hoya was still a very good and dangerous fighter, when he fought Pacquaio. It may not be fair on Hatton, who can't move up the weights, but a lot of the acclaimed fighters do and are recognised for doing so.

Re: Is Hatton P4P No1 if he beats Pacman?

Posted: 11 Mar 2009, 13:39
by observer1
Who votes yes ? :KO:

Re: Is Hatton P4P No1 if he beats Pacman?

Posted: 11 Mar 2009, 13:41
by banjo
observer1 wrote:Who votes yes ? :KO:
Probably Hitman_Hatton1 :KO:

Re: Is Hatton P4P No1 if he beats Pacman?

Posted: 11 Mar 2009, 13:42
by DG.
observer1 wrote:Who votes yes ? :KO:

Must have been Matthew - Ricky and HitmanHatton1!

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Re: Is Hatton P4P No1 if he beats Pacman?

Posted: 11 Mar 2009, 16:28
by DG.
Maybe Hatton should join Boxrec!


:D

Re: Is Hatton P4P No1 if he beats Pacman?

Posted: 11 Mar 2009, 19:15
by observer1
DG. wrote:Maybe Hatton should join Boxrec!


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i reckon he won't be half the Hatton fanboy that HitmanHatton1 is. :shame: :wink:

Re: Is Hatton P4P No1 if he beats Pacman?

Posted: 11 Mar 2009, 19:17
by DG.
observer1 wrote:
DG. wrote:Maybe Hatton should join Boxrec!


:D
i reckon he won't be half the Hatton fanboy that HitmanHatton1 is. :shame: :wink:

:lol:

Re: Is Hatton P4P No1 if he beats Pacman?

Posted: 12 Mar 2009, 12:20
by alexpaterson
No he wont but i cant c Pacman losing and JMM would beat Ricky Hatton