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John Hopoate vs. Cliff Couser - Fri 20 March Manly
Posted: 16 Mar 2009, 01:52
by zelky
Moyoyo Mensah has pulled out. Just waiting for full details of the card to come through and I'll post them.
Fri 20 March Manly Warringah Leagues Club
John Hopoate vs. Cliff Couser
8 rounds - Heavyweight
Kariz Kariuki vs. Iau Kamisak (New Caledonia)
WBO Oriental Super Middleweight Title
"Big" Jason Kier vs. Sosaia Funaki
Heavyweight
Jody Gall vs. TBA
Romana Sanna vs. TBA
Welterweight
+ 6 Amateur Fights
$2000 for table of 10 with food and alcohol
Gold Seating: $100
Silver Seating: $80
Bronze Seating: $60
Standing: $40
Contact Manly Warringah Leagues Club for tickets
Phone: (02) 9939 6722
http://www.seaeagles.com.au
The TBA's have opponents just waiting for the names to come through.
Re: John Hopoate vs. Cliff Couser - Fri 20 March Manly
Posted: 16 Mar 2009, 04:11
by Hounddawg
zelky wrote:Moyoyo Mensah has pulled out. Hoppa is now fighting Cliff Couser this Friday night.
Just waiting for full details of the card to come through and I'll post them.
5 pro fights
5 amateur fights
it will be interesting to see how long this lasts.
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Re: John Hopoate vs. Cliff Couser - Fri 20 March Manly
Posted: 16 Mar 2009, 15:30
by N2 Shape
Cliffs fit hes been training hard, he wasnt in shape against Solo and still went 8 rounds. Cliffs dangerous dont forget that he had Solo hurt in the 5th and he wont quit as we saw against Solo as well. Hoppa is in with a guy who will not be scared of him, a guy whos had almost 50 professional fights largely against the best heavys in the world. Im not trying to talk Cliff up but this will be a good test for Hoppa.
Re: John Hopoate vs. Cliff Couser - Fri 20 March Manly
Posted: 16 Mar 2009, 17:32
by Marlin
Solo also got a draw with Wilson...
I say this fight will end early one way or the other.
Re: John Hopoate vs. Cliff Couser - Fri 20 March Manly
Posted: 16 Mar 2009, 18:04
by toppity
N2 Shape wrote:Cliffs fit hes been training hard, he wasnt in shape against Solo and still went 8 rounds. Cliffs dangerous dont forget that he had Solo hurt in the 5th and he wont quit as we saw against Solo as well. Hoppa is in with a guy who will not be scared of him, a guy whos had almost 50 professional fights largely against the best heavys in the world. Im not trying to talk Cliff up but this will be a good test for Hoppa.
ummmmm.....yes you are. re-read what you just wrote.
Re: John Hopoate vs. Cliff Couser - Fri 20 March Manly
Posted: 16 Mar 2009, 18:23
by Marlin
Re: John Hopoate vs. Cliff Couser - Fri 20 March Manly
Posted: 16 Mar 2009, 18:52
by Adamj1987
come on cliff
cliff vs zelenoff next
Re: John Hopoate vs. Cliff Couser - Fri 20 March Manly
Posted: 16 Mar 2009, 23:11
by adamheight
i have a feeling cliff will knock hoppa out
Re: John Hopoate vs. Cliff Couser - Fri 20 March Manly
Posted: 17 Mar 2009, 01:20
by N2 Shape
yip re-read it........was just pointing out a few facts. If CLiff wasnt arriving the day of the fight hed have a decent shot at beating Hoppa
Re: John Hopoate vs. Cliff Couser - Fri 20 March Manly
Posted: 17 Mar 2009, 02:03
by Hounddawg
Cliff Couser cannot fight, don't know why people convince themselves that this will be an even fight.
I still believe Solo carried Couser the extra 7 rounds, silly but true.
Re: John Hopoate vs. Cliff Couser - Fri 20 March Manly
Posted: 17 Mar 2009, 06:12
by toppity
N2 Shape wrote:yip re-read it........was just pointing out a few facts. If CLiff wasnt arriving the day of the fight hed have a decent shot at beating Hoppa
at the very least he has a go. Good luck

Re: John Hopoate vs. Cliff Couser - Fri 20 March Manly
Posted: 18 Mar 2009, 01:23
by N2 Shape
With 50 pro fights I think its safe to say he can handle himself in the ring. Yes hes a shot fighter, but ask Monte Barrett and Solo the guy can crack still. And if you think Sol was carrying him listen ot Johnny Lewis in the Corner!
Cliffs a fighter, and i respect him for that he'll fight anyone anywhere anytime as proven in taking this Hopoate fight. Hes not afraid to throw down against the best check his record
Having said that Hoppa SHOULD win, and easily given the circumstances. But Sol was supposed to do just that
Re: John Hopoate vs. Cliff Couser - Fri 20 March Manly
Posted: 18 Mar 2009, 01:46
by Liver Crusher
not interested in this.they dont even come close to the grange!

Re: John Hopoate vs. Cliff Couser - Fri 20 March Manly
Posted: 18 Mar 2009, 01:48
by oliverfennell
Hounddog wrote:Cliff Couser cannot fight, don't know why people convince themselves that this will be an even fight.
I still believe Solo carried Couser the extra 7 rounds, silly but true.
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. How to boost your reputation overnight: go to points with a guy who's typically KO'd in 1-3 rounds in decent class.
Re: John Hopoate vs. Cliff Couser - Fri 20 March Manly
Posted: 18 Mar 2009, 03:03
by Hounddawg
oliverfennell wrote:Hounddog wrote:Cliff Couser cannot fight, don't know why people convince themselves that this will be an even fight.
I still believe Solo carried Couser the extra 7 rounds, silly but true.
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. How to boost your reputation overnight: go to points with a guy who's typically KO'd in 1-3 rounds in decent class.
I did say silly!
Solo had never gone to the judges before, and stated at the end that this was his intentions.
If you had seen the fight, you would probably agree, the fight should have been over in the first, but Solo stopped punching and started pawing at Couser when he was hurt.
Re: John Hopoate vs. Cliff Couser - Fri 20 March Manly
Posted: 18 Mar 2009, 03:43
by N2 Shape
So Sol wanted to go 8 rounds carrying a dangerous puncher looking exhausted even being hurt in the 5th. Whilst his trainer Johnny Lewis was clearly yelling for him to get him out of there ASAP.
Couser is not the guy you want to carry for 8 rounds it makes you look bad if your trying to prove you belong with the big boys. You take fights against proven durable opponents who are not dangerous so if you go the rounds no big deal you get a win and some rounds in but if ytou stop the guy you get an extra wrap for stopping a durable guy who normally goes the distance
Re: John Hopoate vs. Cliff Couser - Fri 20 March Manly
Posted: 18 Mar 2009, 03:53
by Sweet P
I dont think Solo carried Him. He tried to KO him early. Then he tired and was almost KOd himself.
Re: John Hopoate vs. Cliff Couser - Fri 20 March Manly
Posted: 19 Mar 2009, 02:52
by Marlin
It seems the writing was on the wall after the Couser fight and then etched in stone after the Wilson fight...
Re: John Hopoate vs. Cliff Couser - Fri 20 March Manly
Posted: 19 Mar 2009, 03:05
by Hounddawg
N2 Shape wrote:So Sol wanted to go 8 rounds carrying a dangerous puncher looking exhausted even being hurt in the 5th. Whilst his trainer Johnny Lewis was clearly yelling for him to get him out of there ASAP.
Couser is not the guy you want to carry for 8 rounds it makes you look bad if your trying to prove you belong with the big boys. You take fights against proven durable opponents who are not dangerous so if you go the rounds no big deal you get a win and some rounds in but if ytou stop the guy you get an extra wrap for stopping a durable guy who normally goes the distance
Yes, yes he did
Yes you do, Couser is that limited, he never learn't how to throw a counter, so when you throw bunch's of punch's he curls up into rock and you can just keep doing that for the entire 8 rounds, just have to pull your power back.
I think we are both on the same page though with solo, he isn't the fighter i thought he was 2 fights ago, not too sure he does belong with the big boys, maybe he might prove me wrong.
Re: John Hopoate vs. Cliff Couser - Fri 20 March Manly
Posted: 19 Mar 2009, 03:08
by toppity
that green hurt my eyes

Re: John Hopoate vs. Cliff Couser - Fri 20 March Manly
Posted: 19 Mar 2009, 21:41
by buster007
solo needs to work on his fitness. the ability will follow if he has it.
Re: John Hopoate vs. Cliff Couser - Fri 20 March Manly
Posted: 20 Mar 2009, 03:29
by N2 Shape
Houndog, respect your opinion my man but I dont believe Solo wanted to go 8 rounds with Couser for one second. I have the DVD of the fight and listen to Johnny Lewis is the corner EVERY round screaming at Solo to finish it, i think Solo's fitness or lack of it is what allowed Couser to stay in the game. You dont Carry dangerous punchers and Couser is one, he proved that againt Monte Barrett, yes hes limited but he can bang and had Solo hurt in the 5th...........
Re: John Hopoate vs. Cliff Couser - Fri 20 March Manly
Posted: 20 Mar 2009, 03:32
by Hounddawg
toppity wrote:that green hurt my eyes

Sorry mate.
Re: John Hopoate vs. Cliff Couser - Fri 20 March Manly
Posted: 20 Mar 2009, 06:41
by Brute
Hopoate is Australian, Couser is American.
The winner is the WBO Africa Heavyweight Champion.
Is this getting a bit silly?
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Re: John Hopoate vs. Cliff Couser - Fri 20 March Manly
Posted: 20 Mar 2009, 16:29
by Brute
Hopfrog in three. Cliff's 8th straight loss, 6 by KO.
Is it time for Cliff to try another job?