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Peter McNeeley; P4P discussion & Things we lost in the fire

Posted: 26 Mar 2009, 02:12
by bulletproof
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Working class hero and power punching heavyweight "Hurricane" Peter McNeeley is best remembered as one of the classic 1990's icons of our sport and remains as a heavyweight question mark to thousands across the globe. Relentless aggression, powerful punching, and a tremendous right hand punch helped to shape McNeeley in the glory days of the sport of boxing. A Peter McNeeley that we would all come to know and love. McNeeley is best remembered for his controversial bout with Mike Tyson in August of 1995, a fight which could have gone either way and was stopped prematurely. McNeeley also holds notable battles with guys like: Eric Esch (L KO 1), Larry Menefee (W DQ 9), Henry Akinwande (L KO 2), Mike Bernardo (L KO 1), and Joe Siciliano (W KO 1).

Peter McNeeley exists today as largely a historical question mark within the confines of heavyweight greatness. Boxing experts are left to contemplate the validity of McNeeley as a fighter in contemporary and past heavyweight circles. Would things have been different if the Tyson fight was not stopped prematurely? Does Peter McNeeley's right hand stack up with the likes of Marciano, Norton, Foreman, and Lewis on an alltime level? Where does Peter McNeeley rank on an alltime heavyweight list? Why was there never a Tyson rematch?

By the way, here is a video which shows Peter McNeeley the man in his preparations for the Tyson fight:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juTpOlYoLoA

Interviewer: "If I was going to fight Mike Tyson, what would you tell me to do?"
Peter: "Well its not a matter of what I would tell you to do. It's a matter of what I am going to do."

Some boxing experts have called McNeeley one of the most "naturally talented" HW's of alltime. So much potential, and limited realization. Is Peter McNeeley an underachiever?

Peter McNeeley has captivated a generation of boxing fans and will arguably go down in history as having one of the best right hands in heavyweight boxing history. There are so many unknowns about McNeeley. How different would his career have been had he not fought Tyson in '95? Why was there never a rematch? What is everything that could have been? Ultimately we need to ask ourselves where Peter McNeeley stacks up in terms of alltime heavyweight greats? Where would you rank McNeeley on an alltime HW list? How much of his potential was actually achieved?

Where does Peter McNeeley stand on an alltime P4P list? How would you rate McNeeley's right hand in terms of alltime P4P comparison?

Re: Peter McNeeley; P4P discussion & Things we lost in the fire

Posted: 26 Mar 2009, 05:24
by Raff The Frenchman
Mc Neeley will be remembered as one of the many clowns from Las Vegas. He had no talent, he was a bum in every true sense of the word.
the word "talended" doesn't go along with a "LTKO1" to Butterbean...

Re: Peter McNeeley; P4P discussion & Things we lost in the fire

Posted: 26 Mar 2009, 05:34
by Adamj1987
Raff The Frenchman wrote:Mc Neeley will be remembered as one of the many clowns from Las Vegas. He had no talent, he was a bum in every true sense of the word.
the word "talended" doesn't go along with a "LTKO1" to Butterbean...

haha seconded

Re: Peter McNeeley; P4P discussion & Things we lost in the fire

Posted: 26 Mar 2009, 06:07
by E
bulletproof wrote:Image

Working class hero and power punching heavyweight "Hurricane" Peter McNeeley is best remembered as one of the classic 1990's icons of our sport and remains as a heavyweight question mark to thousands across the globe. Relentless aggression, powerful punching, and a tremendous right hand punch helped to shape McNeeley in the glory days of the sport of boxing. A Peter McNeeley that we would all come to know and love. McNeeley is best remembered for his controversial bout with Mike Tyson in August of 1995, a fight which could have gone either way and was stopped prematurely. McNeeley also holds notable battles with guys like: Eric Esch (L KO 1), Larry Menefee (W DQ 9), Henry Akinwande (L KO 2), Mike Bernardo (L KO 1), and Joe Siciliano (W KO 1).

Peter McNeeley exists today as largely a historical question mark within the confines of heavyweight greatness. Boxing experts are left to contemplate the validity of McNeeley as a fighter in contemporary and past heavyweight circles. Would things have been different if the Tyson fight was not stopped prematurely? Does Peter McNeeley's right hand stack up with the likes of Marciano, Norton, Foreman, and Lewis on an alltime level? Where does Peter McNeeley rank on an alltime heavyweight list? Why was there never a Tyson rematch?

By the way, here is a video which shows Peter McNeeley the man in his preparations for the Tyson fight:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juTpOlYoLoA

Interviewer: "If I was going to fight Mike Tyson, what would you tell me to do?"
Peter: "Well its not a matter of what I would tell you to do. It's a matter of what I am going to do."

Some boxing experts have called McNeeley one of the most "naturally talented" HW's of alltime. So much potential, and limited realization. Is Peter McNeeley an underachiever?

Peter McNeeley has captivated a generation of boxing fans and will arguably go down in history as having one of the best right hands in heavyweight boxing history. There are so many unknowns about McNeeley. How different would his career have been had he not fought Tyson in '95? Why was there never a rematch? What is everything that could have been? Ultimately we need to ask ourselves where Peter McNeeley stacks up in terms of alltime heavyweight greats? Where would you rank McNeeley on an alltime HW list? How much of his potential was actually achieved?

Where does Peter McNeeley stand on an alltime P4P list? How would you rate McNeeley's right hand in terms of alltime P4P comparison?

This guy is obviously taking the piss. Fairly funny.

To answer the question, I make McNeely my 187,001 P4P fighter ever - by default; as as I found the 187,000th better fighter than him; I couldn't justify wasting any more of my time trawling through bums with negative records.

I think he would fare better on the P4P Mullet list - I think he would rate betweem Troy Dorsey and Tommy Morrison - what do others think?


Postscript - to my horror, I just looked at PEter's record and realised he beat a former world champion twice. The admittedly very poor former light heavy champ JB williamson.

Re: Peter McNeeley; P4P discussion & Things we lost in the fire

Posted: 26 Mar 2009, 06:31
by HPI
P4P and Peter McNeeley dont belong in the same sentance. Unless it is this one.

P4P no one has ever shit so many bricks in a boxing ring than Peter McNeeley did the night he fought Mike Tyson

Re: Peter McNeeley; P4P discussion & Things we lost in the fire

Posted: 26 Mar 2009, 06:33
by mike john
hes best known for wrapping Mike Tyson in a cocoon of horror :wink:

Re: Peter McNeeley; P4P discussion & Things we lost in the fire

Posted: 26 Mar 2009, 06:39
by HPI
E wrote:
bulletproof wrote:Image

I think he would fare better on the P4P Mullet list - I think he would rate betweem Troy Dorsey and Tommy Morrison - what do others think?
Pat Sharpe would decision him after a tough 12 rnds of Mullet Play

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Re: Peter McNeeley; P4P discussion & Things we lost in the fire

Posted: 26 Mar 2009, 06:57
by Raff The Frenchman
besides he ressembles more of a big homosexual bear hunk than a boxer...

Re: Peter McNeeley; P4P discussion & Things we lost in the fire

Posted: 26 Mar 2009, 07:26
by gregor
I thought it is still some time before 1st of April :wink: Anyway, the idea of including McNeeley in P4P list will be hard to beat.

Well, to say something good about him, at least he was not afraid of Tyson and didn't use the opportunity to quit when he was down (like a lot of boxers much better than he).

Re: Peter McNeeley; P4P discussion & Things we lost in the fire

Posted: 26 Mar 2009, 11:33
by gb
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]Would things have been different if the Tyson fight was not stopped prematurely?
Big Pete would have smashed him to bits!

Re: Peter McNeeley; P4P discussion & Things we lost in the fire

Posted: 26 Mar 2009, 12:01
by BoxBuzz
I have been puzzling over what the words "Could have gone either way" mean, in reference to the Tyson bout?

Best I can figure is that it refers to the 50/50 chance McNeely had of making it out alive.

Any other theories on this one?

Re: Peter McNeeley; P4P discussion & Things we lost in the fire

Posted: 26 Mar 2009, 12:49
by JAHamilton77
mike john wrote:hes best known for wrapping Mike Tyson in a cocoon of horror :wink:
I just found the audio clip from the press conference.....

I'm Hurricane Peter McNeeley from Medfield Mass
On Saturday night, watch me kick Tyson's ass
If you haven't made your pay per view arrangments yet... make them soon
Cause remember what happens when I wrap you in my cocoon

Re: Peter McNeeley; P4P discussion & Things we lost in the fire

Posted: 26 Mar 2009, 12:50
by JAHamilton77
you think Tyson thought McNeeley was calling him a coon, after that poem? :o

Re: Peter McNeeley; P4P discussion & Things we lost in the fire

Posted: 26 Mar 2009, 14:08
by enrique
Bulletproof, whatever you've been smoking, I'll buy a lid.

Mc Neeley would rank as number 67,876 among 68,000 heavyweights. Maybe lower.

In any era he would have been a 4 round prelim fighter and a losing one.

His decent record was compiled by beating out of shape third raters.

Re: Peter McNeeley; P4P discussion & Things we lost in the fire

Posted: 26 Mar 2009, 14:42
by observer1
I'd tell you one thing, he'd probably clean up today's HW Division imo :lol:

Maybe not the Klitkcho's but would give guys like Valuev a fit imo

Re: Peter McNeeley; P4P discussion & Things we lost in the fire

Posted: 26 Mar 2009, 16:22
by enrique
The only cleaning up Mcneeley would do is with a mop and broom if he was working as a janitor.

Re: Peter McNeeley; P4P discussion & Things we lost in the fire

Posted: 26 Mar 2009, 16:35
by HomicideHenry
Even in today's piss poor HW division, I dont see McNeeley making waves of any kind. He'd be lucky, for me to even have him along side the likes of Skelton, Drummond, and other recent title challengers. His father, Tom, was the better of the two, and would have handed his son an ass whooping. Now, I like McNeeley, because he is one hell of a story teller and likeable guy, as well as an entertaining puncher among the state/regional level, but he'll even admit he wasn't a national, let alone international level fighter.

Re: Peter McNeeley; P4P discussion & Things we lost in the fire

Posted: 26 Mar 2009, 17:20
by dempseyfire
mike john wrote:hes best known for wrapping Mike Tyson in a cocoon of horror :wink:

Haha, that remains perhaps my favorite boxing qoute of all-time . . .you can't make stuff like that up! :lol:

Re: Peter McNeeley; P4P discussion & Things we lost in the fire

Posted: 26 Mar 2009, 20:26
by E
dempseyfire wrote:
mike john wrote:hes best known for wrapping Mike Tyson in a cocoon of horror :wink:

Haha, that remains perhaps my favorite boxing qoute of all-time . . .you can't make stuff like that up! :lol:
I agree that quote is excellent....I forget it sometimes an when I read it again, I have to crack a laugh

Re: Peter McNeeley; P4P discussion & Things we lost in the fire

Posted: 26 Mar 2009, 22:46
by Dart340
Fabulous post.

Well written and made me laugh. And you kept the sarcasm disguised enough that some folks weren't sure if you were being serious or not or perhaps needed serious mental health assistance.

Re: Peter McNeeley; P4P discussion & Things we lost in the fire

Posted: 27 Mar 2009, 00:48
by turn2stone
great post ! good laughs. it took me into paragraph two before i caught on.

Re: Peter McNeeley; P4P discussion & Things we lost in the fire

Posted: 27 Mar 2009, 02:27
by oliverfennell
E wrote:
dempseyfire wrote:
mike john wrote:hes best known for wrapping Mike Tyson in a cocoon of horror :wink:

Haha, that remains perhaps my favorite boxing qoute of all-time . . .you can't make stuff like that up! :lol:
I agree that quote is excellent....I forget it sometimes an when I read it again, I have to crack a laugh
That, and Bobby Gunn being the most ferocious fighter since Jack Dempsey.

Re: Peter McNeeley; P4P discussion & Things we lost in the fire

Posted: 27 Mar 2009, 03:04
by Carbo
bulletproof wrote:Image

Working class hero and power punching heavyweight "Hurricane" Peter McNeeley is best remembered as one of the classic 1990's icons of our sport and remains as a heavyweight question mark to thousands across the globe. Relentless aggression, powerful punching, and a tremendous right hand punch helped to shape McNeeley in the glory days of the sport of boxing. A Peter McNeeley that we would all come to know and love. McNeeley is best remembered for his controversial bout with Mike Tyson in August of 1995, a fight which could have gone either way and was stopped prematurely. McNeeley also holds notable battles with guys like: Eric Esch (L KO 1), Larry Menefee (W DQ 9), Henry Akinwande (L KO 2), Mike Bernardo (L KO 1), and Joe Siciliano (W KO 1).

Peter McNeeley exists today as largely a historical question mark within the confines of heavyweight greatness. Boxing experts are left to contemplate the validity of McNeeley as a fighter in contemporary and past heavyweight circles. Would things have been different if the Tyson fight was not stopped prematurely? Does Peter McNeeley's right hand stack up with the likes of Marciano, Norton, Foreman, and Lewis on an alltime level? Where does Peter McNeeley rank on an alltime heavyweight list? Why was there never a Tyson rematch?

By the way, here is a video which shows Peter McNeeley the man in his preparations for the Tyson fight:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juTpOlYoLoA

Interviewer: "If I was going to fight Mike Tyson, what would you tell me to do?"
Peter: "Well its not a matter of what I would tell you to do. It's a matter of what I am going to do."

Some boxing experts have called McNeeley one of the most "naturally talented" HW's of alltime. So much potential, and limited realization. Is Peter McNeeley an underachiever?

Peter McNeeley has captivated a generation of boxing fans and will arguably go down in history as having one of the best right hands in heavyweight boxing history. There are so many unknowns about McNeeley. How different would his career have been had he not fought Tyson in '95? Why was there never a rematch? What is everything that could have been? Ultimately we need to ask ourselves where Peter McNeeley stacks up in terms of alltime heavyweight greats? Where would you rank McNeeley on an alltime HW list? How much of his potential was actually achieved?

Where does Peter McNeeley stand on an alltime P4P list? How would you rate McNeeley's right hand in terms of alltime P4P comparison?
Never mind Peter McNeeley, I vote this post as the greatest of all time.

Genius.

Re: Peter McNeeley; P4P discussion & Things we lost in the fire

Posted: 27 Mar 2009, 11:52
by BoxBuzz
Yep, a great work of fiction is hard to come by!

Re: Peter McNeeley; P4P discussion & Things we lost in the fire

Posted: 27 Mar 2009, 12:13
by Counter-puncher
bulletproof wrote:Image

Working class hero and power punching heavyweight "Hurricane" Peter McNeeley is best remembered as one of the classic 1990's icons of our sport and remains as a heavyweight question mark to thousands across the globe. Relentless aggression, powerful punching, and a tremendous right hand punch helped to shape McNeeley in the glory days of the sport of boxing. A Peter McNeeley that we would all come to know and love. McNeeley is best remembered for his controversial bout with Mike Tyson in August of 1995, a fight which could have gone either way and was stopped prematurely. McNeeley also holds notable battles with guys like: Eric Esch (L KO 1), Larry Menefee (W DQ 9), Henry Akinwande (L KO 2), Mike Bernardo (L KO 1), and Joe Siciliano (W KO 1).

Peter McNeeley exists today as largely a historical question mark within the confines of heavyweight greatness. Boxing experts are left to contemplate the validity of McNeeley as a fighter in contemporary and past heavyweight circles. Would things have been different if the Tyson fight was not stopped prematurely? Does Peter McNeeley's right hand stack up with the likes of Marciano, Norton, Foreman, and Lewis on an alltime level? Where does Peter McNeeley rank on an alltime heavyweight list? Why was there never a Tyson rematch?

By the way, here is a video which shows Peter McNeeley the man in his preparations for the Tyson fight:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juTpOlYoLoA

Interviewer: "If I was going to fight Mike Tyson, what would you tell me to do?"
Peter: "Well its not a matter of what I would tell you to do. It's a matter of what I am going to do."

Some boxing experts have called McNeeley one of the most "naturally talented" HW's of alltime. So much potential, and limited realization. Is Peter McNeeley an underachiever?

Peter McNeeley has captivated a generation of boxing fans and will arguably go down in history as having one of the best right hands in heavyweight boxing history. There are so many unknowns about McNeeley. How different would his career have been had he not fought Tyson in '95? Why was there never a rematch? What is everything that could have been? Ultimately we need to ask ourselves where Peter McNeeley stacks up in terms of alltime heavyweight greats? Where would you rank McNeeley on an alltime HW list? How much of his potential was actually achieved?

Where does Peter McNeeley stand on an alltime P4P list? How would you rate McNeeley's right hand in terms of alltime P4P comparison?
classic, i don't normally commend trolls but you are p4p amongst trolls sir :TU: