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When Bunce asked 'why no rematch with Bradley whe it looked like ut was a cert?'.

Witter said..

'Mick didn't dot the I's and cross the T's'!

Always found it stragne there was no rematch when after Witter brought forward the Bradley fight when he did not have to..

What happened?

Now Witter nominated to figt a relative unknown in McCloskey for the Euro Belt he already held..

I think its a bit obvious mate.
Meatry Mick thought he'd win at a canter - and forgot to put the rematch clause in.

twenty six wrote:I think its a bit obvious mate.
Meatry Mick thought he'd win at a canter - and forgot to put the rematch clause in.

Well that is pathetic...

I would have thought he had it worded into the contract but it was not watertight enough to enforce?

I true that is pathetic from HS.

Bradley beats Witter 10 times out 10 anyway. I'd bet all the money I have on it.

In fact, all this 'Witter wasn't right on the night' stuff makes me sick. Witter boxed the first world-class opponent (well, second after Judah) of his career and couldn't get away with all the unorthadox stuff he used to produce. Bradly was just way too good for him in every department, and was actually quicker than Junior. I don't see what Witter can do differently.

Eraserhead wrote:Bradley beats Witter 10 times out 10 anyway. I'd bet all the money I have on it.

In fact, all this 'Witter wasn't right on the night' stuff makes me sick. Witter boxed the first world-class opponent (well, second after Judah) of his career and couldn't get away with all the unorthadox stuff he used to produce. Bradly was just way too good for him in every department, and was actually quicker than Junior. I don't see what Witter can do differently.

We covered that before, witter dad having cancer etc..

I was interested in the reason Witter commented on HS re: dotting I's etc....

Also, Bradley is nothing special....

Witter beat Corley N'dou and Harris..He is World Class....

twenty six wrote:I think its a bit obvious mate.
Meatry Mick thought he'd win at a canter - and forgot to put the rematch clause in.

it was a mandatory.

no rematch clause allowed on those is there?

hitman_hatton1 wrote:

twenty six wrote:I think its a bit obvious mate.
Meatry Mick thought he'd win at a canter - and forgot to put the rematch clause in.

it was a mandatory.

no rematch clause allowed on those is there?

Always gotta love it when people say 'I think its obvious' and then go on to make a statement that cant be true.

Terry D wrote:

Eraserhead wrote:Bradley beats Witter 10 times out 10 anyway. I'd bet all the money I have on it.

In fact, all this 'Witter wasn't right on the night' stuff makes me sick. Witter boxed the first world-class opponent (well, second after Judah) of his career and couldn't get away with all the unorthadox stuff he used to produce. Bradly was just way too good for him in every department, and was actually quicker than Junior. I don't see what Witter can do differently.

Partially agree, I felt pre-fight that Bradley may be able to knock Witter's game a little by using his one-two and movement. Still, never expected Witter to fail to adjust. Bradley had not shown a great deal prior to that, since that and in that actual fight. Interested to see how he gets on this Saturday, but he is not a world-beater.

i was surprised Bradley didn't get more credit for his performance vs Wiiter. from ringside he looked compact and very skilled in fundamentals, also he boxed the perfect strategic and tactical fight to beat a fighter like Witter

I believe Bradley would give Hatton an excellent contest- anyone else?

hitman_hatton1 wrote:

twenty six wrote:I think its a bit obvious mate.
Meatry Mick thought he'd win at a canter - and forgot to put the rematch clause in.

it was a mandatory.

no rematch clause allowed on those is there?

But the mandatory was brought foward by 6 -9 months by WITTER and not the WBC due to the Castillo fight falling through.

That in itself was a tool for HS to get somethng back...

Counter-puncher wrote:

Terry D wrote:

Eraserhead wrote:Bradley beats Witter 10 times out 10 anyway. I'd bet all the money I have on it.

In fact, all this 'Witter wasn't right on the night' stuff makes me sick. Witter boxed the first world-class opponent (well, second after Judah) of his career and couldn't get away with all the unorthadox stuff he used to produce. Bradly was just way too good for him in every department, and was actually quicker than Junior. I don't see what Witter can do differently.

Partially agree, I felt pre-fight that Bradley may be able to knock Witter's game a little by using his one-two and movement. Still, never expected Witter to fail to adjust. Bradley had not shown a great deal prior to that, since that and in that actual fight. Interested to see how he gets on this Saturday, but he is not a world-beater.

i was surprised Bradley didn't get more credit for his performance vs Wiiter. from ringside he looked compact and very skilled in fundamentals, also he boxed the perfect strategic and tactical fight to beat a fighter like Witter

I believe Bradley would give Hatton an excellent contest- anyone else?

I believe Bradley would beat Hatton! When was the last time Hatton fought a young fast hungry strong puncher?

Brad's young, fast, strong, skilled, looks to have a boxing brain in hias head. what's not to like?

Counter-puncher wrote:Brad's young, fast, strong, skilled, looks to have a boxing brain in hias head. what's not to like?

I do not dislike him, but he was flattered in the Witter fight, imo.

Still very raw in my opinion and wins fight with his headbutts and energy...Holt is a dangerous fight for him.

50/50 fight....

i disagree slightly on 'raw'. a 'raw' fighter would have been hit a LOT more than Bradley was vs Witter, Witter tends to pick raw fighters apart quite easily.

probably the single thing that impressed me most about him was how tight his defence was.

agree though that he was flattered slightly by Witter's inactivity during the fight- surely though some credit must go to Bradley for taking offensive opportunities away from Witter?

Counter-puncher wrote:i disagree slightly on 'raw'. a 'raw' fighter would have been hit a LOT more than Bradley was vs Witter, Witter tends to pick raw fighters apart quite easily.

probably the single thing that impressed me most about him was how tight his defence was.

agree though that he was flattered slightly by Witter's inactivity during the fight- surely though some credit must go to Bradley for taking offensive opportunities away from Witter?

You have to credit Bradley because he got the win...BUT - he is not as good as that win suggests...imo.

Witter has turned into a "big punch" fighter, the rot began to set in against Kotelnik, he threw some good punches early on but Kotelnik just walked through them and went on to give Witter fits. Then Witter looked pedestrian against Lynes and Corley, looked average in beating Morua and I think the Harris win flattered him a bit and he went in looking to blast Bradley out.

banjo wrote:Witter has turned into a "big punch" fighter, the rot began to set in against Kotelnik, he threw some good punches early on but Kotelnik just walked through them and went on to give Witter fits. Then Witter looked pedestrian against Lynes and Corley, looked average in beating Morua and I think the Harris win flattered him a bit and he went in looking to blast Bradley out.

He needs to use his Jab way more and also BOX, loads up way too much....

DG. wrote:

banjo wrote:Witter has turned into a "big punch" fighter, the rot began to set in against Kotelnik, he threw some good punches early on but Kotelnik just walked through them and went on to give Witter fits. Then Witter looked pedestrian against Lynes and Corley, looked average in beating Morua and I think the Harris win flattered him a bit and he went in looking to blast Bradley out.

He needs to use his Jab way more and also BOX, loads up way too much....

Exactly he seems to have negected his skill since he had that KO run.

So what were the i's and t's James ?
My post was based on what was said up here in South Yorkshire - months ago.
I am as frustrated as the next man over Junior's lack of activity as a fan of his.

DG. wrote:

hitman_hatton1 wrote:

twenty six wrote:I think its a bit obvious mate.
Meatry Mick thought he'd win at a canter - and forgot to put the rematch clause in.

it was a mandatory.

no rematch clause allowed on those is there?

But the mandatory was brought foward by 6 -9 months by WITTER and not the WBC due to the Castillo fight falling through.

That in itself was a tool for HS to get somethng back...

speaking of tools.

BRADLEY WAS MANDATORY.

BROUGHT FORWARD OR NOT.

holt has another title so he comes first anyway.

not as the titles really mean anything these days.

What's your version on what the i's and t's are then Hitman ?

twenty six wrote:So what were the i's and t's James ?
My post was based on what was said up here in South Yorkshire - months ago.
I am as frustrated as the next man over Junior's lack of activity as a fan of his.

I think the i's and t's he was referring to may have been in an offer of another fight between the 2 after Witter lost the belt. But for sure there's no way Hennessy could have a rematch clause in the original Bradley contract.

I just want to see Witter fight again, I was delighted when the Devon Alexander news came about but since then we havent heard anything. Is this McCloskey fight rumours, or is there actually some weight to it?

I've read on the current scene that Devon Alexander will be fighting the winner of Holt-Bradley, how reliable that source is I don't know but if it's true then I don't see Witter getting a WBC title fight this year, he may have to look elsewhere.

hitman_hatton1 wrote:

speaking of tools.

BRADLEY WAS MANDATORY.

BROUGHT FORWARD OR NOT.

holt has another title so he comes first anyway.

not as the titles really mean anything these days.

Speaking of TOOLS, U bitch!




I am sure Fwank would have engineered something if he brought forward a mandatory within the time frame allowed.

twenty six wrote:What's your version on what the i's and t's are then Hitman ?

oh not u again.

banjo wrote:I've read on the current scene that Devon Alexander will be fighting the winner of Holt-Bradley, how reliable that source is I don't know but if it's true then I don't see Witter getting a WBC title fight this year, he may have to look elsewhere.

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