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Re: Mitchell to get shot at Martinez in July.
Posted: 09 Apr 2009, 11:33
by J
excellent go on Kev!
dont see why not, mitchell is better than cook imo.
Re: Mitchell to get shot at Martinez in July.
Posted: 09 Apr 2009, 11:50
by whiskey
No wonder it's called the Wazza Boxing Organisation.
Arthur, Cook and now Mitchell passing it round the dressing room.
I like Mitchell, but he should have stuck to the IBF route instead of this trinket.
Re: Mitchell to get shot at Martinez in July.
Posted: 09 Apr 2009, 12:27
by J
well see my comments on khan some folk need to get over their bias imo.
Re: Mitchell to get shot at Martinez in July.
Posted: 09 Apr 2009, 12:56
by Spud
I would love to see Kevin Mitchell win this one - warming to him - gutsy fighter and lets face he is exciting to watch.
However - oh dear oh dear the WBO - surely they are not favouring particular promoters are they?
Re: Mitchell to get shot at Martinez in July.
Posted: 09 Apr 2009, 12:59
by J
always liked Kev, both as a fighter and a bloke on the few times Ive met him.
One of those careers that started and coincided when i was going to the york hall twice a month or so back in 04-05.
top lad he is too.

Re: Mitchell to get shot at Martinez in July.
Posted: 09 Apr 2009, 13:59
by Coco
I bet FW will secure tv coverage
Re: Mitchell to get shot at Martinez in July.
Posted: 09 Apr 2009, 14:08
by leforge
It be on sky as Warren with them I imagine
Re: Mitchell to get shot at Martinez in July.
Posted: 09 Apr 2009, 14:31
by stujones
Good fight, not that surprising... maybe surprising its not going to be on the Khan bill.
Glad he is having a warm up.
Re: Mitchell to get shot at Martinez in July.
Posted: 09 Apr 2009, 15:07
by leforge
I think the 02 be too big a venue for Kevin at this stage.
Re: Mitchell to get shot at Martinez in July.
Posted: 09 Apr 2009, 15:34
by Asterix
I'd like to see this fight. Should be a good one. I've no idea who will win. I suppose I see it as a 50-50 fight from the little I've seen of Martinez.
Re: Mitchell to get shot at Martinez in July.
Posted: 09 Apr 2009, 15:54
by J
Re: Mitchell to get shot at Martinez in July.
Posted: 09 Apr 2009, 16:33
by comeback
leforge wrote:I think the 02 be too big a venue for Kevin at this stage.
I wouldn't say that, there was enough people supporting Kevin at the 02 when he fought for the British Title and he left his mark at that venue in winning 'the fight of the year' so Im sure he will have a big enough turn out at this venue, especially if like most FW shows now there wont be only one 'main' fight. Also, lets be fair, if the 02 is a big enough venue for Nicky Cook its def not too big for Kevin!
Re: Mitchell to get shot at Martinez in July.
Posted: 09 Apr 2009, 17:02
by comeback
BIGMARK wrote:so does Mitchell deserve a title shot anymore than Khan?
hasnt he only won the Commonwealth title as a pro?
No, he's won the British also and in 'the fight of the year'
Re: Mitchell to get shot at Martinez in July.
Posted: 10 Apr 2009, 00:49
by crusader
I think Mitchell is stronger than Cook and a bit better fighter all round. Martinez looked stiff and slow to me, and Nicky was in control until he was stopped, so I would fancy Mitchell to take this.
Re: Mitchell to get shot at Martinez in July.
Posted: 10 Apr 2009, 01:01
by crusader
BIGMARK wrote:so does Mitchell deserve a title shot anymore than Khan?
hasnt he only won the Commonwealth title as a pro?
I don't think either have really earned a crack at a world title based on who they've beat, but given the specific circumstances of their title shots I think Mitchell is more deserving. At least he has campaigned and actually had one fight at super feather, not to mention he wasn't brutally knocked out in 54 seconds two fights ago.
That being said I think they are both better than the names on their record suggest, and will come out victorious in tough fights.
Re: Mitchell to get shot at Martinez in July.
Posted: 10 Apr 2009, 01:08
by Hagler2002
crusader wrote:I think Mitchell is stronger than Cook and a bit better fighter all round. Martinez looked stiff and slow to me, and Nicky was in control until he was stopped, so I would fancy Mitchell to take this.
In control? Martinez started slow, lost the first two rounds but you could see halfway through the 3rd he started to loosing up and when he did proceeded to spark Cook out.
Mitchell will go the same way! did you not see the Johanneson fight and how many he was shipping

Re: Mitchell to get shot at Martinez in July.
Posted: 10 Apr 2009, 01:14
by crusader
Hagler2002 wrote:crusader wrote:I think Mitchell is stronger than Cook and a bit better fighter all round. Martinez looked stiff and slow to me, and Nicky was in control until he was stopped, so I would fancy Mitchell to take this.
In control? Martinez started slow, lost the first two rounds but you could see halfway through the 3rd he started to loosing up and when he did proceeded to spark Cook out.
Mitchell will go the same way! did you not see the Johanneson fight and how many he was shipping

Martinez lost the first, was badly hurt and nearly knocked down in the second, probably lost the third for doing nothing in the first half of the round, and was looking troubled by body shots prior to the knockout in the fourth. I would say that Cook was control or at least ahead, very possibly 30-27. Mitchell could very well go down the same, but I think he will pull it out.
Re: Mitchell to get shot at Martinez in July.
Posted: 10 Apr 2009, 02:03
by Hagler2002
crusader wrote:
Martinez lost the first, was badly hurt and nearly knocked down in the second, probably lost the third for doing nothing in the first half of the round, and was looking troubled by body shots prior to the knockout in the fourth. I would say that Cook was control or at least ahead
Pinklon Thomas was in control against Mike Tyson and Cotto against Margarito and look what happened
Bottom line is Martinez started slow but within 3 mins of settling and opening up he had Cook down 3 times and the fight was over, it was a mismatch from 1:30 of the 3rd.
Re: Mitchell to get shot at Martinez in July.
Posted: 10 Apr 2009, 03:10
by GlobalBox
Hagler2002 wrote:crusader wrote:
Martinez lost the first, was badly hurt and nearly knocked down in the second, probably lost the third for doing nothing in the first half of the round, and was looking troubled by body shots prior to the knockout in the fourth. I would say that Cook was control or at least ahead
Pinklon Thomas was in control against Mike Tyson and Cotto against Margarito and look what happened
Bottom line is Martinez started slow but within 3 mins of settling and opening up he had Cook down 3 times and the fight was over, it was a mismatch from 1:30 of the 3rd.
I have seen a lot of Martinez and thats the way he fights, always a slow starter, easy to hit, especially with the jab and can be hurt himself.
He is a hugely proud and brave warrior and you hurt him and he seems to come alive but one thing is for definite, he don't punch like Johannsson and he could not put Mitchell over so I think this is Mitchell's fight to win as long as his hands are actually repaired which is open to some debate.
He is too quick for Martinez and the guy can be hurt not just against Cook he has been in trouble before and come through, not sure he does against Mitchell.
Mitchell wins this surprisingly comfortably for me.
Re: Mitchell to get shot at Martinez in July.
Posted: 10 Apr 2009, 04:32
by crusader
Hagler2002 wrote:crusader wrote:
Martinez lost the first, was badly hurt and nearly knocked down in the second, probably lost the third for doing nothing in the first half of the round, and was looking troubled by body shots prior to the knockout in the fourth. I would say that Cook was control or at least ahead
Pinklon Thomas was in control against Mike Tyson and Cotto against Margarito and look what happened
Bottom line is Martinez started slow but within 3 mins of settling and opening up he had Cook down 3 times and the fight was over, it was a mismatch from 1:30 of the 3rd.
Pinklon Thomas in control

? Thomas was floored in the first and down big at the time stoppage, if thats your idea of control......
Did I ever say Cook was going to win? NO. I said he was in control for the duration of the fight, by which I mean he was ahead, which was the case. The fight was never a mismatch, Cook was still doing well in the fourth until he was caught and went down. Besides, Kevin Mitchell isn't Nicky Cook, hes quicker, hits harder, and can take a shot better. Just because Martinez beat Cook does not mean he will beat Mitchell.
And if your going to mention past Mitchell fights why don't you mention Martinez' fight vs Jose Cruz when he was hurt and beaten in the eyes of most people only to get a draw because of a dubious point deduction. Or when he was floored by some no name called Santos Benavides. Im sorry my opinion bothers you so much, but I think Kevin Mitchell will beat Martinez.
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Re: Mitchell to get shot at Martinez in July.
Posted: 10 Apr 2009, 04:40
by Counter-puncher
i think this fight goes to the later rounds where one of them gets stopped but i am not 100% sure as i would like to be that it's Mitchell who'll end up on top.
Re: Mitchell to get shot at Martinez in July.
Posted: 10 Apr 2009, 04:49
by BABY BLUE
Spud wrote:I would love to see Kevin Mitchell win this one - warming to him - gutsy fighter and lets face he is exciting to watch.
However - oh dear oh dear the WBO - surely they are not favouring particular promoters are they?
yep they are .his name is allegedly

hahhaa
Re: Mitchell to get shot at Martinez in July.
Posted: 10 Apr 2009, 04:52
by BABY BLUE
Hagler2002 wrote:crusader wrote:I think Mitchell is stronger than Cook and a bit better fighter all round. Martinez looked stiff and slow to me, and Nicky was in control until he was stopped, so I would fancy Mitchell to take this.
In control? Martinez started slow, lost the first two rounds but you could see halfway through the 3rd he started to loosing up and when he did proceeded to spark Cook out.
Mitchell will go the same way! did you not see the Johanneson fight and how many he was shipping

well mitchell can win this thats if he dont go all out in the first round. he need to take his time as he mensioned on the boxing hour use his brain ,and taking his time with shots .
Re: Mitchell to get shot at Martinez in July.
Posted: 10 Apr 2009, 08:48
by bennie
Martinez looks a bit special. I cannot see Kevin winning this.
Re: Mitchell to get shot at Martinez in July.
Posted: 10 Apr 2009, 09:04
by liamlion
G0mez wrote:No wonder it's called the Wazza Boxing Organisation.
Arthur, Cook and now Mitchell passing it round the dressing room.
Thats the truth.
Yet another example of Fwank bypassing one of his fighter's past their domestic rivals to a premature opportunity at a "world" title shot. Fwank the wank is bad for British Boxing.
Good luck to Mitchell though. Its certainly not his fault and he is a talented fighter.