Tough Jaws
Posted: 26 Jun 2003, 18:18
Before you read, I'd like to note that I've left out fighters which are tough too, just because I'm not really interested in them, these are my personal favourites. In my opinion these people have very sturdy jaws.
TONY ZALE - middleweight
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United States
Record
+++++++++++++
67-18-2 with 45 knockouts
middleweight title fight record - 6 wins, 5 knockouts 2 losses
++++++++++++++
I saw two of his fights, one against Marcel Cerdan(by coincidence) and one against Rocky Graziano(the third), although the one with Rocky I had was not complete. The one with Graziano was a gruelling slugfest and he took a few good shots, but eventually hit him with two terribly accurate hooks, a hard right to the left side of Rocky's body and a hard left to the jaw, which put him down and out.
The next one was against Cerdan and in my opinion it was one of the hardest fights I've ever seen, harder than the much hyped Zale-v-Graziano 3. Both took punishment but zale was the worst. He kept taking several hard punches right on the jaw, constantly. I swear, practically every other middleweight in boxing history would have been knocked out scores of times.
In all fights there are always some punches which hit on the jaw but you can't see them because, so it was probably more than what I saw. Eventually Zale was KOd, but he had to be knocked totally unconscious(you can see him droop down like a ragdoll). Even though I only saw one WHOLE fight, it was enough to convince me he was the toughest champion.
KEN BUCHANAN - lightweight
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Scotland
+++++++++++++
62-8(I cannot find the proper record, I lost the one I had)
+++++++++++++
I saw the full Roberto Duran v Ken Buchanan fight, and Duran, a great puncher, hit Buchanan(past his best) with several HARD rights right on the jaw. It was nothing compared to the previous one I noted, but Buchanan hardly showed his muzziness and was rocked against the ropes. He recovered quickly after each onslaught, and went the fight without being knocked down, except for an obvious slip(the "expert" commentator claimed it was a knockdown after slow-mo, but he obviously is not an expert). Similarily to Robinson, it's hard for some boxing novices to imagine a fast stylist with a darting left jab to be so rugged, but this just shows you, the ones that look tough(e.g. Iron Mike Tyson) usually have less of a jaw than the ones that don't.
He lost the fight by the way(he was well past his prime).
CARLOS MONZON - middleweight
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Argentina
Record
+++++++++++++
87-3-9 with 59 knockouts (the record speaks for itself)
middleweight title fight record - 15 wins, 10 knockouts 0 losses
++++++++++++++
Unfortunately I only have two fights of him. One against Nino Bienvenuti(where he didn't take much and knocked him out), and a full fight against Emile Griffith. In the one with Emile Griffith he did not take many combos, but when he did, he basically ignored him. He just swung out of the way and resumed as if nothing had happened, neither smiling nor grimacing.
He was never knocked out in his 100 fights.
SUGAR RAY ROBINSON - welterweight at prime, middleweight after
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United States
Record
+++++++++++++
175-19-6 total
welterweight title fight record - 6 wins 0 losses
middleweight title fight record - 8 wins 6 losses(may not look good but he avenged the losses)
light-heavyweight title fight record - 1 loss(heat exhaustion)
+++++++++++++
Because of his beautiful footwork(he was once a tapdancer), his incredibly fast and hard flurries of punches and his very stylish way of boxing, the fact that he was one of the hardest boxers of all time makes him one of the most complete boxers ever(Joe Louis, Muhammed Ali, Sugar Ray Leonard all agreed). I have 11 of his fights, against Basilio, Fullmer, Olsen, Turpin, Pender, LaMotta & Maxim, and they all seem to support the theory.
I NEVER saw him being rocked in all 11, and when he got hit he often did one of his fast and vicious flurries in return(especially with Basilio). It's no wonder he suffered from alzheimers. One of the greatest onslaughts I've ever seen was against Olsen, when he made a sustained flurry to the body followed by a perfect left hook to the chin.
TONY ZALE - middleweight
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United States
Record
+++++++++++++
67-18-2 with 45 knockouts
middleweight title fight record - 6 wins, 5 knockouts 2 losses
++++++++++++++
I saw two of his fights, one against Marcel Cerdan(by coincidence) and one against Rocky Graziano(the third), although the one with Rocky I had was not complete. The one with Graziano was a gruelling slugfest and he took a few good shots, but eventually hit him with two terribly accurate hooks, a hard right to the left side of Rocky's body and a hard left to the jaw, which put him down and out.
The next one was against Cerdan and in my opinion it was one of the hardest fights I've ever seen, harder than the much hyped Zale-v-Graziano 3. Both took punishment but zale was the worst. He kept taking several hard punches right on the jaw, constantly. I swear, practically every other middleweight in boxing history would have been knocked out scores of times.
In all fights there are always some punches which hit on the jaw but you can't see them because, so it was probably more than what I saw. Eventually Zale was KOd, but he had to be knocked totally unconscious(you can see him droop down like a ragdoll). Even though I only saw one WHOLE fight, it was enough to convince me he was the toughest champion.
KEN BUCHANAN - lightweight
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Scotland
+++++++++++++
62-8(I cannot find the proper record, I lost the one I had)
+++++++++++++
I saw the full Roberto Duran v Ken Buchanan fight, and Duran, a great puncher, hit Buchanan(past his best) with several HARD rights right on the jaw. It was nothing compared to the previous one I noted, but Buchanan hardly showed his muzziness and was rocked against the ropes. He recovered quickly after each onslaught, and went the fight without being knocked down, except for an obvious slip(the "expert" commentator claimed it was a knockdown after slow-mo, but he obviously is not an expert). Similarily to Robinson, it's hard for some boxing novices to imagine a fast stylist with a darting left jab to be so rugged, but this just shows you, the ones that look tough(e.g. Iron Mike Tyson) usually have less of a jaw than the ones that don't.
He lost the fight by the way(he was well past his prime).
CARLOS MONZON - middleweight
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Argentina
Record
+++++++++++++
87-3-9 with 59 knockouts (the record speaks for itself)
middleweight title fight record - 15 wins, 10 knockouts 0 losses
++++++++++++++
Unfortunately I only have two fights of him. One against Nino Bienvenuti(where he didn't take much and knocked him out), and a full fight against Emile Griffith. In the one with Emile Griffith he did not take many combos, but when he did, he basically ignored him. He just swung out of the way and resumed as if nothing had happened, neither smiling nor grimacing.
He was never knocked out in his 100 fights.
SUGAR RAY ROBINSON - welterweight at prime, middleweight after
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United States
Record
+++++++++++++
175-19-6 total
welterweight title fight record - 6 wins 0 losses
middleweight title fight record - 8 wins 6 losses(may not look good but he avenged the losses)
light-heavyweight title fight record - 1 loss(heat exhaustion)
+++++++++++++
Because of his beautiful footwork(he was once a tapdancer), his incredibly fast and hard flurries of punches and his very stylish way of boxing, the fact that he was one of the hardest boxers of all time makes him one of the most complete boxers ever(Joe Louis, Muhammed Ali, Sugar Ray Leonard all agreed). I have 11 of his fights, against Basilio, Fullmer, Olsen, Turpin, Pender, LaMotta & Maxim, and they all seem to support the theory.
I NEVER saw him being rocked in all 11, and when he got hit he often did one of his fast and vicious flurries in return(especially with Basilio). It's no wonder he suffered from alzheimers. One of the greatest onslaughts I've ever seen was against Olsen, when he made a sustained flurry to the body followed by a perfect left hook to the chin.