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British Champions 20 years ago
Posted: 14 Apr 2009, 07:10
by jonny
How do you think todays champions compare.
HEAVYWEIGHT, Gary Mason
CRUISERWEIGHT, Johnny Nelson (Glenn McCrory IBF Champ)
LIGHT HEAVY, Tom Collins
SUPERMIDDLE, Sam Storey
MIDDLEWEIGHT, Herol Graham
LIGHTMIDDLE, Gary Stretch
WELTERWEIGHT, Kirkland Laing
LIGHTWELTER, Pat Barrett
LIGHTWEIGHT, Steve Boyle
SUPERFEATHER, John Doherty
FEATHERWEIGHT, Paul Hodkinson
BANTAMWEIGHT, Billy Hardy
FLYWEIGHT, Pat Clinton ( Dave McAuley IBF Champ)
These were from october 1989 ratings...
Re: British Champions 20 years ago
Posted: 14 Apr 2009, 07:13
by DavidPayne
Thats a hell of a team.
Re: British Champions 20 years ago
Posted: 14 Apr 2009, 07:29
by jonny
Isn't it just and the number 1 ranked are
HEAVY, Frank Bruno
CRUISER, Sammy Reeson
L HEAVY, Dennis Andries
S MIDDLE, Mark Kaylor
MIDDLE, Chris Eubank
L MIDDLE, Chris Pyatt
WELTER, Lloyd Honeyghan
L WELTER, Clinton McKenzie
LIGHT, Peter Till
S FEATHER, Jim McDonnell
FEATHER, Sean Murphy
BANTAM, Duke McKenzie
FLY, Danny Porter
Re: British Champions 20 years ago
Posted: 14 Apr 2009, 07:32
by teddy007
jonny wrote:Isn't it just and the number 1 ranked are
HEAVY, Frank Bruno
CRUISER, Sammy Reeson
L HEAVY, Dennis Andries
S MIDDLE, Mark Kaylor
MIDDLE, Chris Eubank
L MIDDLE, Chris Pyatt
WELTER, Lloyd Honeyghan
L WELTER, Clinton McKenzie
LIGHT, Peter Till
S FEATHER, Jim McDonnell
FEATHER, Sean Murphy
BANTAM, Duke McKenzie
FLY, Danny Porter
That is way way better than what he have at the moment.
Re: British Champions 20 years ago
Posted: 14 Apr 2009, 07:38
by hurlock

i was going to say that's not twenty years ago
time fly's,i was 8 tho ;;-)
Re: British Champions 20 years ago
Posted: 14 Apr 2009, 09:15
by stujones
Eubank number #1 in 1989 - I would have had Benn and Watson above him then.
Well lets compare with now - maybe in a few weeks time.
Bruno.... Haye (if Victorious).... = Haye (for me)
Reeson...... Hide...... = Very close
Andries...... Woods..... = Andries
Kaylor...... Froch....... = Froch
Eubank...... Macklin..... = Eubank
Pyatt....... Moore....... = Close (What a fight)
Honeyghun..... Jennings..... = Honeyghun
McKenzie...... Hatton..... = Hatton
Till....... Khan...... = Khan
McDonnel...... Cook...... = McDonnel (close mind).
Murphy........ Choi....... = Close
McKenzie...... Napa .... = McKenzie
Porter...... Edwards..... = Porter.
Re: British Champions 20 years ago
Posted: 14 Apr 2009, 09:23
by jonny
stujones wrote:Eubank number #1 in 1989 - I would have had Benn and Watson above him then.
Well lets compare with now - maybe in a few weeks time.
Bruno.... Haye (if Victorious).... = Haye (for me)
Reeson...... Hide...... = Very close
Andries...... Woods..... = Andries
Kaylor...... Froch....... = Froch
Eubank...... Macklin..... = Eubank
Pyatt....... Moore....... = Close (What a fight)
Honeyghun..... Jennings..... = Honeyghun
McKenzie...... Hatton..... = Hatton
Till....... Khan...... = Khan
McDonnel...... Cook...... = McDonnel (close mind).
Murphy........ Choi....... = Close
McKenzie...... Napa .... = McKenzie
Porter...... Edwards..... = Porter.
Certainly Watson... Benn was coming off the loss to Watson and was rebuilding in the States..
Good summary through the weights there Stujones
Re: British Champions 20 years ago
Posted: 14 Apr 2009, 10:36
by jonny
MIDDLEWEIGHT,
British Champ, Herol Graham
Cmmonwealth Champ, Michael Watson
1, Chris Eubank
2, Nigel Benn
3, Rod Douglas
4, Kid Milo
5, Errol Christie
Re: British Champions 20 years ago
Posted: 14 Apr 2009, 11:42
by coghaugen11
Eubank put in very good performances against Randy Smith and Anthony Logan, who had been in with all of the world's best middleweights.
Plus he was undefeated - Benn wasn't.
Re: British Champions 20 years ago
Posted: 14 Apr 2009, 12:10
by bennie
jonny wrote:How do you think todays champions compare.
HEAVYWEIGHT, Gary Mason
CRUISERWEIGHT, Johnny Nelson (Glenn McCrory IBF Champ)
LIGHT HEAVY, Tom Collins
SUPERMIDDLE, Sam Storey
MIDDLEWEIGHT, Herol Graham
LIGHTMIDDLE, Gary Stretch
WELTERWEIGHT, Kirkland Laing
LIGHTWELTER, Pat Barrett
LIGHTWEIGHT, Steve Boyle
SUPERFEATHER, John Doherty
FEATHERWEIGHT, Paul Hodkinson
BANTAMWEIGHT, Billy Hardy
FLYWEIGHT, Pat Clinton ( Dave McAuley IBF Champ)
These were from october 1989 ratings...
Best fighter of the lot was Hoko.
Re: British Champions 20 years ago
Posted: 14 Apr 2009, 13:10
by boxingchat
Jamie Moore (good fighter granted) but would get slaughtered by Pyatt (probably even now) . Are you sure?
And Haye to beat Bruno? No way, Bruno would park him after Haye had feasted on his jab for a time.
Kaylor would have done Froch too as would Eubank, Watson, Benn, Graham, Calzaghe, etc etc etc
Re: British Champions 20 years ago
Posted: 14 Apr 2009, 13:43
by stujones
A little bit of the old nostalgia there I think, Boxingchat.
Bruno had a good jab, but I did say IF Haye proves himself against Wlad. Wlad would have toyed and destroyed Bruno - he simply would have mauled, held, survive for four rounds using his superior strength and speed, and then walloped him. Wlad is a far better champion than Bruno. If Haye proves himself, then yes- he should be way to quick for Big Frank... but he hasn't.
I do agree on the Pyatt situation, reason why I said "close" was cause there looks like there is more to come from Jamie. I would probably tip Pyatt - but would like to see how Jamie does at world class first.
Froch loses to all those mentioned, except Kaylor.... too big and hits to hard for Kaylor.
Re: British Champions 20 years ago
Posted: 14 Apr 2009, 14:15
by ERIC GUY
Blimey 20 yrs ago,
dont forget, we still had Mugabi boxing here then...and that guy could hit,
Re: British Champions 20 years ago
Posted: 14 Apr 2009, 14:48
by housesecond
Looking at the names it sure doesn't seem like 20 years ago. Perhaps I'm getting old.
Re: British Champions 20 years ago
Posted: 14 Apr 2009, 15:17
by Mick the Mechanic
I would'nt honestly like to pick a winner between Pyatt and Moore,Chris was one of my favourite fighters then and Mooresy is now,i was just thinking a while back how much they remind me of each other.........what a fight it would've been though.
Just for the record,i would pick big Frank against Haye,and Froch beats Kaylor any day...i really liked Mark but Froch is too big and durable at the weight.
Re: British Champions 20 years ago
Posted: 14 Apr 2009, 16:08
by Old bones Ian
Pyatt was class as a lightmiddle, and so is Moore, it would of been a 50/50 fight.
Re: British Champions 20 years ago
Posted: 14 Apr 2009, 16:10
by Old bones Ian
Tom Collins was really an enigma, when he was on form he was superb, but he could also be awful when he couldn't get his head right.
Re: British Champions 20 years ago
Posted: 15 Apr 2009, 04:54
by bennie
Old bones Ian wrote:Tom Collins was really an enigma, when he was on form he was superb, but he could also be awful when he couldn't get his head right.
You know, Collins floored Dennis Andries twice on the way to a 15-round decision.
Collins had a right hand that spelt t-r-o-u-b-le. He nailed Jeff Harding with the best right hand he could throw in a world title crack in Oz in 1989. Harding reeled, tottered, survived and made it to the bell, whereupon Collins immediately quit. You could see Collins thinking 'f uck that'.