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Mexican Roadsweepers?

Posted: 15 Apr 2009, 04:06
by mahatma
Mexican Roadsweepers....the mere phrase conjures up images of some of brunos early opponents , any fond memories of best and worst?

Re: Mexican Roadsweepers?

Posted: 15 Apr 2009, 04:18
by DavidPayne
Well they have to have a tache for a start.

Re: Mexican Roadsweepers?

Posted: 15 Apr 2009, 04:22
by chris s
The greatest were the Tijuana tumblers who came over to the Royal Albert Hall on a Duff/Barrett/Astaire bill and four Mexicans lasted best five rounds. Think it was late 70s or early 80s

Re: Mexican Roadsweepers?

Posted: 15 Apr 2009, 04:46
by bennie
I remember a Mexican heavyweight by the name of Juan Diaz coming over to fight Herbie Hide (I think it was Hide). He was small but built like the Michelin Man.
I swear it was the same Juan Diaz who had licked Charlie Magri at flyweight years earlier and then never stopped celebrating.

Re: Mexican Roadsweepers?

Posted: 15 Apr 2009, 05:11
by forcefraser
The best one I can remember was not a Mexican roadsweeper, but a yankee cabbage called Chuck Gardner. He fought Bruno and was knocked out after about 30 seconds by a glancing jab. Truly pathetic.

Re: Mexican Roadsweepers?

Posted: 15 Apr 2009, 05:12
by chris s
bennie wrote:I remember a Mexican heavyweight by the name of Juan Diaz coming over to fight Herbie Hide (I think it was Hide). He was small but built like the Michelin Man.
I swear it was the same Juan Diaz who had licked Charlie Magri at flyweight years earlier and then never stopped celebrating.
Bennie, Who did the Tijuana tumblers fight?

Re: Mexican Roadsweepers?

Posted: 15 Apr 2009, 05:25
by Coco
Didn't Greg Haugen coinn the phrase as a description of the majority of Chavez's opponents

Re: Mexican Roadsweepers?

Posted: 15 Apr 2009, 05:30
by Old bones Ian
Couple of early opponents of Bruno's were not really road sweepers, his 3rd one was Abdul Muhaymin, who Bruno knocked out in a 1 round, that was in 1982. Now Abdul would go on to take boxers Oliver McCall and Tony Tucker the distance , he also took a host of good punchers the distance. In fact Abdul was next stopped by light punching Cley-Bey in 1998!

Ronald Gibbs who was the 4th opponent of Bruno's, he had just beaten Mark Wills twice on points, and gone the distance with Mike Jasmeson.

Tony Moore opponent 5, had only been stopped 4 times before in 25 losses, Bruno did the trick in 2 rounds

Re: Mexican Roadsweepers?

Posted: 15 Apr 2009, 05:55
by forcefraser
Old bones Ian wrote:Couple of early opponents of Bruno's were not really road sweepers, his 3rd one was Abdul Muhaymin, who Bruno knocked out in a 1 round, that was in 1982. Now Abdul would go on to take boxers Oliver McCall and Tony Tucker the distance , he also took a host of good punchers the distance. In fact Abdul was next stopped by light punching Cley-Bey in 1998!

Ronald Gibbs who was the 4th opponent of Bruno's, he had just beaten Mark Wills twice on points, and gone the distance with Mike Jasmeson.

Tony Moore opponent 5, had only been stopped 4 times before in 25 losses, Bruno did the trick in 2 rounds
Agreed. But poor old Chuck was like my pissed up uncle.

Re: Mexican Roadsweepers?

Posted: 15 Apr 2009, 06:09
by Old bones Ian
forcefraser wrote:
Old bones Ian wrote:Couple of early opponents of Bruno's were not really road sweepers, his 3rd one was Abdul Muhaymin, who Bruno knocked out in a 1 round, that was in 1982. Now Abdul would go on to take boxers Oliver McCall and Tony Tucker the distance , he also took a host of good punchers the distance. In fact Abdul was next stopped by light punching Cley-Bey in 1998!

Ronald Gibbs who was the 4th opponent of Bruno's, he had just beaten Mark Wills twice on points, and gone the distance with Mike Jasmeson.

Tony Moore opponent 5, had only been stopped 4 times before in 25 losses, Bruno did the trick in 2 rounds
Agreed. But poor old Chuck was like my pissed up uncle.
yeah can't deny that one, that was awful, at least Bruno looked just embarressed.

Re: Mexican Roadsweepers?

Posted: 15 Apr 2009, 06:11
by Old bones Ian

Re: Mexican Roadsweepers?

Posted: 15 Apr 2009, 06:16
by DavidPayne
JR's book, This Bloody Mary is the Last Thing I Own, is well worth a read.

Great writer.

Re: Mexican Roadsweepers?

Posted: 15 Apr 2009, 06:50
by Andy
Would make a fine username for someone.

Re: Mexican Roadsweepers?

Posted: 15 Apr 2009, 07:03
by bennie
chris s wrote:
bennie wrote:I remember a Mexican heavyweight by the name of Juan Diaz coming over to fight Herbie Hide (I think it was Hide). He was small but built like the Michelin Man.
I swear it was the same Juan Diaz who had licked Charlie Magri at flyweight years earlier and then never stopped celebrating.
Bennie, Who did the Tijuana tumblers fight?
Flint, Boza, Green and Magri, in 1980. All of the tumblers tumbled in two rounds. As usual, Duff blamed someone else in his biography: Los Angeles agent Don Chargin.

Re: Mexican Roadsweepers?

Posted: 15 Apr 2009, 07:07
by chris s
bennie wrote:
chris s wrote:
bennie wrote:I remember a Mexican heavyweight by the name of Juan Diaz coming over to fight Herbie Hide (I think it was Hide). He was small but built like the Michelin Man.
I swear it was the same Juan Diaz who had licked Charlie Magri at flyweight years earlier and then never stopped celebrating.
Bennie, Who did the Tijuana tumblers fight?
Flint, Boza, Green and Magri, in 1980. All of the tumblers tumbled in two rounds. As usual, Duff blamed someone else in his biography: Los Angeles agent Don Chargin.
Cheers for that I guessed Green and Magri, but not Jimmy Flint and Boza. wasn't Chargin close to Mike Barrett

Re: Mexican Roadsweepers?

Posted: 15 Apr 2009, 07:20
by bennie
Chargin worked with the Cartel a lot (especially with Duff in the States) and just made a mistake with the tumblers he sent over. Let us face it, all the British fighters could whack.
Chargin is best remembered for offering WBC super-featherweight champion Bobby Chacon $1 million to defend against Hector Camacho in the States in 1983. Don King offered Chacon $450,000. When Chacon naturally accepted the $1 million offer, the WBC stripped Bobby of the title.
King and Jose Sulaiman strike again.

Re: Mexican Roadsweepers?

Posted: 15 Apr 2009, 08:12
by metropol
forcefraser wrote:The best one I can remember was not a Mexican roadsweeper, but a yankee cabbage called Chuck Gardner. He fought Bruno and was knocked out after about 30 seconds by a glancing jab. Truly pathetic.
How does that make him the best one?
I thought the whole point pf fighting these fighters was to get a decnt fighter who will be able to stand up to a decent level of punishment but by no mean come near win

Re: Mexican Roadsweepers?

Posted: 15 Apr 2009, 08:19
by DavidPayne
metropol wrote:
forcefraser wrote:The best one I can remember was not a Mexican roadsweeper, but a yankee cabbage called Chuck Gardner. He fought Bruno and was knocked out after about 30 seconds by a glancing jab. Truly pathetic.
How does that make him the best one?
I thought the whole point pf fighting these fighters was to get a decnt fighter who will be able to stand up to a decent level of punishment but by no mean come near win
In that case Jeff Lacy.

Re: Mexican Roadsweepers?

Posted: 15 Apr 2009, 08:28
by chris s
bennie wrote:Chargin worked with the Cartel a lot (especially with Duff in the States) and just made a mistake with the tumblers he sent over. Let us face it, all the British fighters could whack.
Chargin is best remembered for offering WBC super-featherweight champion Bobby Chacon $1 million to defend against Hector Camacho in the States in 1983. Don King offered Chacon $450,000. When Chacon naturally accepted the $1 million offer, the WBC stripped Bobby of the title.
King and Jose Sulaiman strike again.
Yeah those Brit kids could punch at a decent level. Jimmy Flint, what a banger

Re: Mexican Roadsweepers?

Posted: 15 Apr 2009, 11:20
by TerribleTerry
Coco wrote:Didn't Greg Haugen coinn the phrase as a description of the majority of Chavez's opponents
If I remember rightly Haugen condemned many of Chavez's opponents as 'mexican taxi drivers' that insult, along with other slights that Haugen threw out in an attempt to hype the fight, saw Chavez administer one of the cruelest beatings for many a year.

It was painful to watch.

Re: Mexican Roadsweepers?

Posted: 15 Apr 2009, 13:22
by forcefraser
metropol wrote:
forcefraser wrote:The best one I can remember was not a Mexican roadsweeper, but a yankee cabbage called Chuck Gardner. He fought Bruno and was knocked out after about 30 seconds by a glancing jab. Truly pathetic.
How does that make him the best one?
I thought the whole point pf fighting these fighters was to get a decnt fighter who will be able to stand up to a decent level of punishment but by no mean come near win
Best means worst in this case.

Re: Mexican Roadsweepers?

Posted: 15 Apr 2009, 13:44
by Grilling Machine
mexican roadsweeper wrote:Would make a fine username for someone.
Haha! Do we have a Parliamentary Procedure?

Re: Mexican Roadsweepers?

Posted: 15 Apr 2009, 17:43
by E
I think Benn coined the phrase, although he never actually fought a mexican

Re: Mexican Roadsweepers?

Posted: 15 Apr 2009, 17:45
by E
Chuck Gardner actually beath MIke Tyson and Charles Atlas. Not many can claim that even if they are not the big name ones.

He did beat the genuine Jimmy Young though, quite a shocker.