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Emaster: Reverted edits by Emaster (talk) to last revision by Ric

2012-01-04T10:43:34Z

Reverted edits by Emaster (talk) to last revision by Ric

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	If you happen to know the Fight ID number, or the Boxer ID number, you can enter that in the search box. The fight or boxer should appear as a search result.<br>--[[User:Ric\|Ric]] 10:08, 23 Jul 2005 (CDT)		If you happen to know the Fight ID number, or the Boxer ID number, you can enter that in the search box. The fight or boxer should appear as a search result.<br>--[[User:Ric\|Ric]] 10:08, 23 Jul 2005 (CDT)

	~~== Adjustments needed? ==~~

	~~I've carefully read the related article and might have found some outdated, false or unnecessary information. At least my "searching experiences" do not agree generally.~~

	The following passage in the second paragraph of the related project page's "[[Boxrec Boxing Encyclopaedia:Searching#Introduction\|Introduction]]" is obviously outdated: "''(Many other boxers' pages, however, are defaulted with a page title of "Boxer:Name:BoxRec ID Number" -- until some Editor "moves" that page to a new name, deleting the "Boxer:Name:ID Number" prefix.)''" The next sentence in the same paragraph reads, "''Note: although there may be a particular boxer page in this Encyclopedia, if an Editor has not inserted the "boxer code" into that page, that boxer's page probably will not show up in the search results.''" The same is expressed in the section titled '''Search Engine Limitations''', "''3. As noted earlier above, although there may be a particular boxer page in this Encyclopedia, if an Editor has not inserted the "boxer code" into that page, that boxer's page probably will not show up in the search results.''" I tested this and the boxer page could be found even when no boxer code had been inserted.

	The first paragraph of the "[[Boxrec Boxing Encyclopaedia:Searching#Basic Search Tips\|Basic Search Tips]]" deals with '''The ENTER Key'''. The first sentence in it is likely to suffice: "''Pressing the [Enter] key while the search field is active is equivalent to clicking on the [Go] button.''". The second ("''While this is obvious when using Internet Explorer (tested on version 6), Mozilla (version 1.6 at least) provides no such indication.''") gets outdated easily as newer browser versions come out.

	In the '''Limiting results''' part the first paragraph alleges: "''Wikipedia's default search mode will turn up results with any of the words in your query.''" I have experienced that a page has to include each search term to be listed as a result. That’s why the following hint is not necessary: "''To limit the search to results that include all words, put a plus sign "+" at the beginning of each word: +search +engine returns only pages containing both words, like Google's default mode.''" The next advice ("''You can also do a phrase search by enclosing words in quotes:''") is in contrast to the '''Phrase''' titled paragraph, which reads, "''There is no method for searching for a phrase.''" I've experienced the former to be true.

	The '''Avoid Short & Common Words''' part suggests that "''the search engine requires a search term of at least four characters.''" I've received results when having inserted only one character. (The character combination "vs" does not produce results. Is "vs" a stop word? I don't think it is in at least half of all articles, which could be another reason for the absence of results in case "vs" is the search term.) The next sentence refers to the phrase search and the default all-words-only search claiming that these kinds of search "''may result in returning nothing at all''" if a stop word is part of the search term. The search results are not affected, though, unless a stop word is included within the quotation marks enclosing the search term in a phrase search. And that "''short numbers ... will also not be found''" has not proved correct when searching for them.

	As opposed to what is said under the heading '''Search is case-insensitive only for the first word of the entry''', the search is case-insensitive for each character of some entries (e.g. "[[The Ring Magazine's Annual Ratings]]") while it is only case-insensitive for the first character of the first word of other entries(e.g. "[[Ring Magazine Fighter of the Year]]"). If a mixture of capitalized and noncapitalized characters follows the initial character of at least one word of an entry, at the most the initial characters of each word of the entry are case-insensitive (e.g. "[[Elmer Slim McClelland]]"). Only the first character of the first word is case-insensitive in other entries of the same kind (e.g. "[[BoxRec's Annual Ratings]]"). The first-character-of-each-word-only-case-insensitivity also applies to entries including brackets (e.g. "[[(Chief) Charlie Starr]]").

	~~The wildcard asterisk (*) search option is applicable.~~

	~~The first external link of the related project page is outdated. The second link could be changed into an interwiki link.~~

	~~--[[User:Emaster\|Emaster]] 12:51, 13 November 2008 (UTC)~~

Emaster: updated, clarified, and expanded

2008-11-13T12:51:02Z

updated, clarified, and expanded

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	I've carefully read the related article and might have found some outdated, false or unnecessary information. At least my "searching experiences" do not agree generally.		I've carefully read the related article and might have found some outdated, false or unnecessary information. At least my "searching experiences" do not agree generally.

	The following passage in the second paragraph of the related project page's "[[Boxrec Boxing Encyclopaedia:Searching#Introduction\|Introduction]]" is obviously outdated: "''(Many other boxers' pages, however, are defaulted with a page title of "Boxer:Name:BoxRec ID Number" -- until some Editor "moves" that page to a new name, deleting the "Boxer:Name:ID Number" prefix.)''" The next sentence in the same paragraph reads, "''Note: although there may be a particular boxer page in this Encyclopedia, if an Editor has not inserted the "boxer code" into that page, that boxer's page probably will not show up in the search results.''" The same is expressed in the section titled '''Search Engine Limitations''', "''3. As noted earlier above, although there may be a particular boxer page in this Encyclopedia, if an Editor has not inserted the "boxer code" into that page, that boxer's page probably will not show up in the search results.''" I tested this ~~issue~~ and the boxer page could be found ~~though~~ no boxer code ~~was~~ inserted.		The following passage in the second paragraph of the related project page's "[[Boxrec Boxing Encyclopaedia:Searching#Introduction\|Introduction]]" is obviously outdated: "''(Many other boxers' pages, however, are defaulted with a page title of "Boxer:Name:BoxRec ID Number" -- until some Editor "moves" that page to a new name, deleting the "Boxer:Name:ID Number" prefix.)''" The next sentence in the same paragraph reads, "''Note: although there may be a particular boxer page in this Encyclopedia, if an Editor has not inserted the "boxer code" into that page, that boxer's page probably will not show up in the search results.''" The same is expressed in the section titled '''Search Engine Limitations''', "''3. As noted earlier above, although there may be a particular boxer page in this Encyclopedia, if an Editor has not inserted the "boxer code" into that page, that boxer's page probably will not show up in the search results.''" I tested this and the boxer page could be found even when no boxer code had been inserted.

	The first paragraph of the "[[Boxrec Boxing Encyclopaedia:Searching#Basic Search Tips\|Basic Search Tips]]" deals with '''The ENTER Key'''. The first sentence in it is likely to suffice: "''Pressing the [Enter] key while the search field is active is equivalent to clicking on the [Go] button.''". The second ("''While this is obvious when using Internet Explorer (tested on version 6), Mozilla (version 1.6 at least) provides no such indication.''") ~~might be a bit specific (and unnecessary anyway). Otherwise even more browsers could be added~~.		The first paragraph of the "[[Boxrec Boxing Encyclopaedia:Searching#Basic Search Tips\|Basic Search Tips]]" deals with '''The ENTER Key'''. The first sentence in it is likely to suffice: "''Pressing the [Enter] key while the search field is active is equivalent to clicking on the [Go] button.''". The second ("''While this is obvious when using Internet Explorer (tested on version 6), Mozilla (version 1.6 at least) provides no such indication.''") gets outdated easily as newer browser versions come out.

	In the '''Limiting results''' part the first paragraph alleges: "''Wikipedia's default search mode will turn up results with any of the words in your query.''" I have experienced that ~~only results including~~ each ~~word that was inserted into the~~ search ~~field show up~~. That’s why the following hint is not necessary: "''To limit the search to results that include all words, put a plus sign "+" at the beginning of each word: +search +engine returns only pages containing both words, like Google's default mode.''" The next advice ("''You can also do a phrase search by enclosing words in quotes:''") is in contrast to the '''Phrase''' titled paragraph, which reads, "''There is no method for searching for a phrase.''" ~~The latter is~~ true ~~as far as my experience is concerned~~.		In the '''Limiting results''' part the first paragraph alleges: "''Wikipedia's default search mode will turn up results with any of the words in your query.''" I have experienced that a page has to include each search term to be listed as a result. That’s why the following hint is not necessary: "''To limit the search to results that include all words, put a plus sign "+" at the beginning of each word: +search +engine returns only pages containing both words, like Google's default mode.''" The next advice ("''You can also do a phrase search by enclosing words in quotes:''") is in contrast to the '''Phrase''' titled paragraph, which reads, "''There is no method for searching for a phrase.''" I've experienced the former to be true.

	The '''Avoid Short & Common Words''' part suggests that "''the search engine requires a search term of at least four characters.''" I ~~performed successful searches with~~ only one character. (~~To my surprise, the~~ character combination "vs" ~~of all combinations~~ does not produce results. ~~It might be~~ in at least half of all articles.) The next sentence refers to the ~~impossible~~ phrase search and the default all-words-only search ~~warning~~ that these kinds of search "''may result in returning nothing at all''"~~. However, involving~~ stop ~~words in a~~ search ~~in my opinion does not affect its outcome~~. The results are the ~~same as if~~ the ~~stop words were excluded~~. And that "''short numbers … will also not be found''" has not proved correct when searching for ~~"1", "2" etc~~.		The '''Avoid Short & Common Words''' part suggests that "''the search engine requires a search term of at least four characters.''" I've received results when having inserted only one character. (The character combination "vs" does not produce results. Is "vs" a stop word? I don't think it is in at least half of all articles, which could be another reason for the absence of results in case "vs" is the search term.) The next sentence refers to the phrase search and the default all-words-only search claiming that these kinds of search "''may result in returning nothing at all''" if a stop word is part of the search term. The search results are not affected, though, unless a stop word is included within the quotation marks enclosing the search term in a phrase search. And that "''short numbers ... will also not be found''" has not proved correct when searching for them.

	As opposed to what is said under the heading '''Search is case-insensitive only for the first word''' the search ~~seems to be generally~~ case-insensitive~~, not~~ only for the first ~~item~~ (~~except for~~ "~~Marquis~~ of "~~Queensbury Rules~~" ~~whyever~~).		As opposed to what is said under the heading '''Search is case-insensitive only for the first word of the entry''', the search is case-insensitive for each character of some entries (e.g. "[[The Ring Magazine's Annual Ratings]]") while it is only case-insensitive for the first character of the first word of other entries(e.g. "[[Ring Magazine Fighter of the Year]]"). If a mixture of capitalized and noncapitalized characters follows the initial character of at least one word of an entry, at the most the initial characters of each word of the entry are case-insensitive (e.g. "[[Elmer Slim McClelland]]"). Only the first character of the first word is case-insensitive in other entries of the same kind (e.g. "[[BoxRec's Annual Ratings]]"). The first-character-of-each-word-only-case-insensitivity also applies to entries including brackets (e.g. "[[(Chief) Charlie Starr]]").

	~~Is the~~ first external link outdated? The second link could be changed into an interwiki link~~: <nowiki>[[MetaWiki:Help:Searching]]</nowiki>~~.--[[User:Emaster\|Emaster]] 09:57, ~~3 March~~ 2008 (~~CST~~)		The wildcard asterisk (*) search option is applicable.

			The first external link of the related project page is outdated. The second link could be changed into an interwiki link.

			--[[User:Emaster\|Emaster]] 12:51, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Emaster: Some adjustments are probably needed in the related article. But for my part, I just want to provide experiences for comments/discussion.

2008-03-03T15:57:31Z

Some adjustments are probably needed in the related article. But for my part, I just want to provide experiences for comments/discussion.

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	If you happen to know the Fight ID number, or the Boxer ID number, you can enter that in the search box. The fight or boxer should appear as a search result.<br>--[[User:Ric\|Ric]] 10:08, 23 Jul 2005 (CDT)		If you happen to know the Fight ID number, or the Boxer ID number, you can enter that in the search box. The fight or boxer should appear as a search result.<br>--[[User:Ric\|Ric]] 10:08, 23 Jul 2005 (CDT)

			== Adjustments needed? ==

			I've carefully read the related article and might have found some outdated, false or unnecessary information. At least my "searching experiences" do not agree generally.

			The following passage in the second paragraph of the related project page's "[[Boxrec Boxing Encyclopaedia:Searching#Introduction\|Introduction]]" is obviously outdated: "''(Many other boxers' pages, however, are defaulted with a page title of "Boxer:Name:BoxRec ID Number" -- until some Editor "moves" that page to a new name, deleting the "Boxer:Name:ID Number" prefix.)''" The next sentence in the same paragraph reads, "''Note: although there may be a particular boxer page in this Encyclopedia, if an Editor has not inserted the "boxer code" into that page, that boxer's page probably will not show up in the search results.''" The same is expressed in the section titled '''Search Engine Limitations''', "''3. As noted earlier above, although there may be a particular boxer page in this Encyclopedia, if an Editor has not inserted the "boxer code" into that page, that boxer's page probably will not show up in the search results.''" I tested this issue and the boxer page could be found though no boxer code was inserted.

			The first paragraph of the "[[Boxrec Boxing Encyclopaedia:Searching#Basic Search Tips\|Basic Search Tips]]" deals with '''The ENTER Key'''. The first sentence in it is likely to suffice: "''Pressing the [Enter] key while the search field is active is equivalent to clicking on the [Go] button.''". The second ("''While this is obvious when using Internet Explorer (tested on version 6), Mozilla (version 1.6 at least) provides no such indication.''") might be a bit specific (and unnecessary anyway). Otherwise even more browsers could be added.

			In the '''Limiting results''' part the first paragraph alleges: "''Wikipedia's default search mode will turn up results with any of the words in your query.''" I have experienced that only results including each word that was inserted into the search field show up. That’s why the following hint is not necessary: "''To limit the search to results that include all words, put a plus sign "+" at the beginning of each word: +search +engine returns only pages containing both words, like Google's default mode.''" The next advice ("''You can also do a phrase search by enclosing words in quotes:''") is in contrast to the '''Phrase''' titled paragraph, which reads, "''There is no method for searching for a phrase.''" The latter is true as far as my experience is concerned.

			The '''Avoid Short & Common Words''' part suggests that "''the search engine requires a search term of at least four characters.''" I performed successful searches with only one character. (To my surprise, the character combination "vs" of all combinations does not produce results. It might be in at least half of all articles.) The next sentence refers to the impossible phrase search and the default all-words-only search warning that these kinds of search "''may result in returning nothing at all''". However, involving stop words in a search in my opinion does not affect its outcome. The results are the same as if the stop words were excluded. And that "''short numbers … will also not be found''" has not proved correct when searching for "1", "2" etc.

			As opposed to what is said under the heading '''Search is case-insensitive only for the first word''' the search seems to be generally case-insensitive, not only for the first item (except for "Marquis of "Queensbury Rules" whyever).

			Is the first external link outdated? The second link could be changed into an interwiki link: <nowiki>[[MetaWiki:Help:Searching]]</nowiki>.--[[User:Emaster\|Emaster]] 09:57, 3 March 2008 (CST)

Ric at 15:08, 23 July 2005

2005-07-23T15:08:44Z

New page

If you happen to know the Fight ID number, or the Boxer ID number, you can enter that in the search box. The fight or boxer should appear as a search result.<br>--[[User:Ric|Ric]] 10:08, 23 Jul 2005 (CDT)